Probably didn't help that my stream had major ABU commentators, but that for me was the moment when it finally sunk in that he may not be around next season. On a slight silver lining, at least we have the funds and FFP ability to bring in a quality keeper (not that Valdes is bad or anything)...
De Gea Replacement
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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This will soon become top of the list of what we need sadly. Hopefully we have made some inroads with Cech or Leno.
I would be very comfortable with Cech. We'll see if Jose allows it.
Check the DDG thread, Van Gaal said "his girlfriend is Spanish, his father and mother come here every week to watch. It is very difficult for him."
My basic position has been that we should assess Valdes and if he does enough to warrant faith in him being first choice next season, then go for the highest-rated young goalkeeper available to be his number 2, with the view that he will be the long-term successor. This would allow the young keeper to settle-in before being thrown in at the deep-end, and get a few games here and there before becoming first choice.
Not sure who that young player should be (this Leno seems popular on here) and that relies on Valdes being able to start next season as number one, but if we go for a first-choice over Valdes then I'm certain it will cost us more than whatever Real decide to chuck us for DDG.
Not sure who that young player should be (this Leno seems popular on here) and that relies on Valdes being able to start next season as number one, but if we go for a first-choice over Valdes then I'm certain it will cost us more than whatever Real decide to chuck us for DDG.
I'm probably thinking the same right now too.
Imo, it has to be one of Petr Cech, Hugo Lloris or Bernd Leno. Cech is the most well-rounded and best of those keepers imo, but the age (32) is obviously a factor. Lloris is a fantastic shot-stopper but is less convincing in the air. Leno has the most to improve, but he is tall and strong, a great shot-stopper, and young (23). He'd certainly seem to represent the best long-term option but there is the possibility that he may want to return to Germany and go to Bayern, similar to the case of David and Madrid. Cech would be the best option in the short-term imo, Leno would represent the best long-term investment if he doesn't decide to leave in a couple of seasons (that's a big if), and Lloris represents the middle ground. At 28, Lloris could potentially stay here longer than Leno, offering at least 5 years at a high level. His shot-stopping is probably top 3-5 in the world, however we may have a problem from corners with him as our defence tends to struggle with corners anyway. It should be considered that these Kane to United rumours are likely genuine and the price demand for Lloris will likely be overly expensive with 4 years left on his contract.
Imo, we should get Cech. He might seem more short-term than the others but in reality, he could end up staying just as long or longer than Leno. With only one year left on his contract and Chelsea's agreement to let him go, he would certainly be the cheapest option, especially cheaper than Lloris. He's also still one of the top 5 keepers in the world imo, and there's no reason that he won't have a long keeper career. While it might seem we'll only see the best of him for 2 years max, that could well be stretched to a period of 4-5 years (van der Saar is an example of this).
Imo, we should get Cech. He might seem more short-term than the others but in reality, he could end up staying just as long or longer than Leno. With only one year left on his contract and Chelsea's agreement to let him go, he would certainly be the cheapest option, especially cheaper than Lloris. He's also still one of the top 5 keepers in the world imo, and there's no reason that he won't have a long keeper career. While it might seem we'll only see the best of him for 2 years max, that could well be stretched to a period of 4-5 years (van der Saar is an example of this).
To be honest, I just can't see Mou sell Cech to any domestic competitor. I'd like us to be in for Leno, or Lloris. Would prefer Leno, think he has a lot of potential.
Wait what the feck was I trying to say about Cech/Valdes? I have no idea right now my bad
Regarding Begovic hes in the same situation as DDG and Cech, his contract runs out in 2016 so going by the general rule of thumb Stoke cant expect a big fee for a player who can sign a pre-contract in January and leave them for free next summer.
Wait what the feck was I trying to say about Cech/Valdes? I have no idea right now my bad
Regarding Begovic hes in the same situation as DDG and Cech, his contract runs out in 2016 so going by the general rule of thumb Stoke cant expect a big fee for a player who can sign a pre-contract in January and leave them for free next summer.
Ah cheers didnt know that
Lloris reminds me of Barthez. No, not because they're both French. I also think his distribution and kicking are not of standards we've seen of De Gea.
Is Lloris really a better keeper than Valdes?
Leno or Cech please.
Has to be Cech for me. Good age for a keeper, could do a VDS and get another 8 years out of him
yes he is.
Same age as valdes at the start of next season... Both 33?
Which as you say is similar to vds
I think we brought valdes knowing there was a good chance he would be no1 next year and I think that's why he signed.
Much as I think Chech is a great keeper I don't see us having two keepers that old and nor do I see Jose wanting to sell him to a rival
Jose would sell, if he could sell Mata than why no Cech.. How good is Cillesen btw? I really want some commanding goalkeeper, good in the air, that was something in which de Gea didn't excel despite need for it in this physical league. That I am saying to moderate my sadness from loosing Dave
No chance, and for the money and potential hassle involved it makes no sense to for Lloris for me.
There is one big difference between Valdes and Cech/VDS that means he wont age as well as they will.
Everyone worried about Jose selling to us, but he already said that because of what Cech has done for Chelsea that he would let Cech choose
Leno or Cech for me... No Lloris please.
There's no way Chelsea will sell us Cech and on top of that I don't even think van Gaal would want him. He brought in Valdes as 2nd keeper because he wasn't happy with Lindegaard. His keeper for Holland's qualifiers was Vermeer, both are great with their feet. That is a must for his goalkeeper, we've all seen the amount of backpasses this season. The keeper plays an important role in our build up.
Lloris would be a good shout, but very expensive. I'd rather prefer Leno, he can settle in when we've still got Valdes.
Lloris would be a good shout, but very expensive. I'd rather prefer Leno, he can settle in when we've still got Valdes.
Bernd Leno is a good choice, but I personally think Timo Horn is well worth a look at. His handling seems a little erratic at times, so are some of his actions, but that's made up for his reflexes, shot stopping and he also spreads himself very well; a la De Gea. He's kept 16 clean sheets this season and Cologne (Koln) have the least amount of goals scored against outside the top 4. Fairly similar stats & situation to Leno this season, but this lad is playing with a much weaker defence in front of him. For his age he'd have plenty of time to develop whilst Valdes is still at the club & possibly share duties with him for a season or 2. Oh and to top it off, apparently his recent contract extension has a €9-10m buy-out clause in it.
If it were up to me if he really wants to go back to Spain (home) I'd offer him to Barca in return for Ter Stegen. I rather he go to Barca than RM, at least at Barca he will be appreciated as a WC footballer who can play ball than at RM being a shiny new toy they fickle fans can turn on if things ain't going right. It would be a better move for him IMO and Ter Stegen is a quality GK who would suit the PL.
Valdes 1, Johnstone 2. Let's use the De Gea money to sort out the defence.
cech would be ideal. a very van der sar like signing. the only question is whether jose would allow him to move to united? he did sell mata to us but cech would be another different question.
remember when mata was signed we were under moyes and something like 5th or 6th in the table and nobody expect us to be challenging for the tittle under moyes. van gaal next season is another different matter.
from the PL i'll probably say either cech or lloris, with cech the absolute first choice if available.
from abroad maybe a young talented goalie. oblak or leno perhaps.
remember when mata was signed we were under moyes and something like 5th or 6th in the table and nobody expect us to be challenging for the tittle under moyes. van gaal next season is another different matter.
from the PL i'll probably say either cech or lloris, with cech the absolute first choice if available.
from abroad maybe a young talented goalie. oblak or leno perhaps.
Jose will never sell Cech to United and strengthen their direct rival. Neither will Cech choose United hurting Chelsea in the process. Mata was a different prospect altogether seeing the 37mn was a big factor that time.
Ter Stegen for me. He's progressing very quickly and would be an excellent goalkeeper for the present as well as for the future. Barca only use him in the Champions League and so the offer of playing week in/week out as well as high wages could tempt him. If all else fails, I'd like to see either Lloris or Handanovic.
He wants to go back to Madrid, where his family and girlfriend are based. They not in Barcelona.
He'd have more trouble going back to Madrid to see his family if he was a Barcelona player.
Realistically you're not getting Cech or Lloris, so it's either Valdes or A.N.Other.
The wind is whispering A.N.Other ... more specifically Cillesen.
The wind is whispering A.N.Other ... more specifically Cillesen.
The only thing whispering Cillsesen is the idea that Van Gaal will sign anything that is dutch. Which we've already heard last summer, and was proven wrong.
Leno is the no brainer option given how much CL experience he has. There's a wealth of good young keepers in Germany though.
Danny Blind, Memphis Depay ....
I think Lloris wanting to play at the top and having the ability to, will mean you loose him, but due to Daniel Levy, no-one would pay the price you'll ask, so he's safe for now, can't imagine he will sign a new contract at Spurs, although he's contracted until 2019 isn't he?
On a side note, is any of this DDG confirmed? I've seen nothing but rumours and opinions..
We need a new RB desperately, but a health Jones, Smalling and Rojo have shown to be quite good.
Yes but neither are good enough
Subašić from Monaco maybe?
Just a quick one for our regular Bundesliga watchers...
How is Zeiler getting on? I only heard good things about him when he first moved to Hannover, there were even mutterings about him finding his way back to England.
How is Zeiler getting on? I only heard good things about him when he first moved to Hannover, there were even mutterings about him finding his way back to England.
Fair enough, Leno it is then
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