De Gea post-season interview: "Ones who want to stay, stay at the club. Ones that don't want to stay go out. You don't have to stay here."

He clearly said it at 0:12.



Nah, I left these hearing aids to you.

Who said it's an issue though ? No one said that. It's just a clownish moment from De Gea. Not a problem but he tried to act smart on Twitter and got his arse handed to him.

He clearly didn't. That's what we've all been telling you.

He says "I think I did well but it's a sports team, a team sport, so it doesn't matter what I did.."

At no point is the word "poor" used.
 
No he's in the right to point it out, because he says "it's a sport team er team es-port".

I can understand a first take being wrong but once it's pointed out it's very obvious he never used the word poor at all. Talk about selective hearing.

He clearly says "this is a spot team, the team is poor so it doesn't matter what I did".

"Er team es-port" or "The team sport" are sentences that don't make any kind of sense. He's not a native English speaker, it's easy to make what he's saying. "The" is clearly heard after "this is a sport team". Also, "the team is poor" makes the whole quote makes sense.

I get it that they got "sport" as "poor" clearly wrong in the first sentence but the second sentence is clear to me. I have heard the clip ton of times and I can't hear it anything else.
 
I love how people are trying to make it like he said poor team. This is the same type of "missunderstanding" that people wrote about managers just to make them look poor. Agenda from fans. He said sports team. It is not hard to hear and understand.

Had he said poor team, I would have been behind him 100% .
 
He clearly didn't. That's what we've all been telling you.

He says "I think I did well but it's a sports team, a team sport, so it doesn't matter what I did.."

At no point is the word "poor" used.

There's a clear difference between the way he pronounce "sport" and "poor" in the next sentence. I honestly find it ridiculous that some are hearing the word the same in both sentence.

He's clearly saying "this is sport team, the team is poor".
 
I've never seen a season as toxic as this one regarding, well, just about every aspect of the club:

De Gea slams players
Ralf slams players
Rashford flips off a fan/fans
Cavani flips off the fans
Pogba gets booed
Lingard's shenanigans
Press leaks
Greenwood situation
Maguire gets booed/jeered


I'm sure i've missed some out too. Our club is just poison at the moment
 
Enlighten us then, enlighten us what does "sports" and "poor" interchanging change anything from the context of the quote.
"It's a sport team [corrects himself], team sport so it doesn't matter what I did" is what I think he said. It would make sense from context and the fact that he's out in public denying it.
 
How are you not getting this?

In his head he said "it's a sport team (oops I said this the wrong way around) a team sport".

There's no ambiguity the word poor doesn't feature anywhere. Both times he's saying sport and putting a Spanish inflexion on the S.

I'm sorry, I have heard the clips hundreds of times since this discussion started and I can't hear it anything else. It's honestly clear to me as well.

But, feel free you and others to hear it otherwise.
 
I get it that they got "sport" as "poor" clearly wrong in the first sentence but the second sentence is clear to me.

And it makes sense to you that he would first say "sport team" - but then go on to state that the team is "poor" (rather than stressing that "it's a team sport", which makes perfect sense in the full context of what he's, clearly, trying to say)?
 
I'm sorry, I have heard the clips hundreds of times since this discussion started and I can't hear it anything else. It's honestly clear to me as well.

But, feel free you and others to hear it otherwise.
Give them ears a scrub then pal. Maybe they are full of wax? Why would De Gea refute something if he had said it live on camera?
 
There's a clear difference between the way he pronounce "sport" and "poor" in the next sentence. I honestly find it ridiculous that some are hearing the word the same in both sentence.

He's clearly saying "this is sport team, the team is poor".
I think what you're hearing as "is poor" is "e-sport". Adding a subtle 'e' at the beginning of words starting with s is common in Spanish speaking people as they don't do words starting in 's' followed by another consonant.
 
I've never seen a season as toxic as this one regarding, well, just about every aspect of the club:

De Gea slams players
Ralf slams players
Rashford flips off a fan/fans
Cavani flips off the fans
Pogba gets booed
Lingard's shenanigans
Press leaks
Greenwood situation
Maguire gets booed/jeered


I'm sure i've missed some out too. Our club is just poison at the moment

Ronaldo hitting a kids phone out of his hands.
 
And it makes sense to you that he would first say "sport team" - but then go on to state that the team is "poor" (rather than stressing that "it's a team sport", which makes perfect sense in the full context of what he's, clearly, trying to say)?

It makes sense indeed yes. He did well, but since this is a team sport and the whole team has been bad, it doesn't matter what he did.
 
It's not just about being a sweeper keeper. It's about almost everything that isn't just making saves from longer range efforts. That's the problem. De Gea has massive holes in many parts of his game. That's why people like me complain about him. Him and a lot of our fans think that making a few saves is enough for an elite level goalkeeper. It isn't.

Our defence has almost never looked good in the 10 years he's been here. He is the only constant.
It isn't the only constant.

We had Henderson in goal, yet looked ever worse.
We had Romero in goal and kept clean sheets against poor teams yet poor against the rest. Realistically no difference Vs DDG.
We had Valdes in goal and looked awful,

Now you could argue that these be keepers are not the best, and you'd be right, compared to DDG they can't hold a torch.

But Henderson was meant to be a playmaker with his feet, yet still not as good as DDG,

So no, DDG isn't the only constant.

The only constant is United not improving the midfield duo/holding midfielder to improve our defense and stats such as shots faced etc etc etc.
 
I've never seen a season as toxic as this one regarding, well, just about every aspect of the club:

De Gea slams players
Ralf slams players
Rashford flips off a fan/fans
Cavani flips off the fans
Pogba gets booed
Lingard's shenanigans
Press leaks
Greenwood situation
Maguire gets booed/jeered


I'm sure i've missed some out too. Our club is just poison at the moment

Ronaldo and the broken phone.
 
It isn't the only constant.

We had Henderson in goal, yet looked ever worse.
We had Romero in goal and kept clean sheets against poor teams yet poor against the rest. Realistically no difference Vs DDG.
We had Valdes in goal and looked awful,

Now you could argue that these be keepers are not the best, and you'd be right, compared to DDG they can't hold a torch.

But Henderson was meant to be a playmaker with his feet, yet still not as good as DDG,

So no, DDG isn't the only constant.

The only constant is United not improving the midfield duo/holding midfielder to improve our defense and stats such as shots faced etc etc etc.
You might want to check the stats with Henderson in goal rather than remembering a couple of poor mistakes from him and generalising. Hope this helps.
 
Not to mention that adding an undroppable alpha male like Ronaldo to a dressing room which is already divided by players who don’t think the team gets picked on merit was the catalyst for the whole shit show to collapse in on itself. A tipping point that had obviously been reached before Rangnick took over.

Not to mention the inordinate wages he and others are on without merit. The wage structure is totally broken and will be a huge obstacle to ETH having any success here. And obviously this began long before RR took over as interim.
 
Give them ears a scrub then pal. Maybe they are full of wax? Why would De Gea refute something if he had said it live on camera?

:lol:

De Gea CLEARLY did not say «poor», I got that on the first watch/listen. Bloody hell!
 
You might want to check the stats with Henderson in goal rather than remembering a couple of poor mistakes from him and generalising. Hope this helps.
No doesn't help,

Explain why he's still number two?

Please help me understand.
 
It makes sense indeed yes. He did well, but since this is a team sport and the whole team has been bad, it doesn't matter what he did.

Yeah - kind of, sort of, in theory. But why would he (or his social media team) bother to deny it?

* Says openly that the team is poor (but he, himself, has done well) in a post-match interview which millions of people will have seen.

* Then - bizarrely - denies having said it.

Doesn't that strike you as very odd?
 
Yeah - kind of, sort of, in theory. But why would he (or his social media team) bother to deny it?

* Says openly that the team is poor (but he, himself, has done well) in a post-match interview which millions of people will have seen.

* Then - bizarrely - denies having said it.

Doesn't that strike you as very odd?

That thing is up to him.

The context of the sentence still, though, clearly pointing fingers to his teammates, even if we somehow reach the conclusion he said "sport" and not "poor" in the second sentence, the meaning of the quote still " I did well, but since the rest were shit, it didn't matter".
 
De Gea is loving it. He got the captaincy stripped of him for displaying standards in a post-match interview and Harry 'good lad who got relegated 4 times' Maguire got it instead.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's the transitional captain next season if Ronaldo doesn't get it.
 
No doesn't help,

Explain why he's still number two?

Please help me understand.

It's possible for both of them to not be good enough. Henderson is bang average and has no standout qualities at all. De Gea at least has great reflexes but is very poor at organisation, coming out to catch aerial balls (unless they're literally underneath his crossbar), sweeping and distribution.

Honestly, De Gea is low down the list of problems in the team (and we're never going to shift him on the wages he has anyway) so I'm not too fussed about him staying as long as we can drastically change a lot of the rest of the side. However, if we were in a better position where we didn't need to feck off half the team, he's definitely someone we can improve upon. I'd rather have near half of the other keepers in the league over him.
 
That thing is up to him.

The context of the sentence still, though, clearly pointing fingers to his teammates, even if we somehow reach the conclusion he said "sport" and not "poor" in the second sentence, the meaning of the quote still " I did well, but since the rest were shit, it didn't matter".

There is no «somehow» :lol: It’s clear as day light! He does not say «poor».
 
It isn't the only constant.

We had Henderson in goal, yet looked ever worse.
We had Romero in goal and kept clean sheets against poor teams yet poor against the rest. Realistically no difference Vs DDG.
We had Valdes in goal and looked awful,

Now you could argue that these be keepers are not the best, and you'd be right, compared to DDG they can't hold a torch.

But Henderson was meant to be a playmaker with his feet, yet still not as good as DDG,

So no, DDG isn't the only constant.

The only constant is United not improving the midfield duo/holding midfielder to improve our defense and stats such as shots faced etc etc etc.
Our defence was better with Henderson in goal. We conceded less goals. Henderson would have started this season if he didn't get COVID. We could have had a better look at him to see how the team performed as a whole. Don't know if he was good enough, but I would have liked to have seen more. Nobody has gotten the chances over the last 10 years that De Gea has had. Nobody has played more games than De Gea has over that timeframe. If there is any constant, it is De Gea.

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Clearly says "team sport" and the context and the rest of what he says just makes it doubly clear.
 
It isn't the only constant.

We had Henderson in goal, yet looked ever worse.
We had Romero in goal and kept clean sheets against poor teams yet poor against the rest. Realistically no difference Vs DDG.
We had Valdes in goal and looked awful,

Now you could argue that these be keepers are not the best, and you'd be right, compared to DDG they can't hold a torch.

But Henderson was meant to be a playmaker with his feet, yet still not as good as DDG,

So no, DDG isn't the only constant.

The only constant is United not improving the midfield duo/holding midfielder to improve our defense and stats such as shots faced etc etc etc.
Except that didn't happen, did it? Henderson's run in goal last season is literally the best our defence has been in the last four seasons (both by the eyes and the stats). You can try to claim it was coincidence, or put a lot of stress on the 2-3 games where Henderson did have poor games, but overall that was the best our defence has looked for years.
 
That's just the way Spanish people speak. They add an 'e' sound before any word beginning with 's'.

So 'sport' gets pronounced as 'es-port'. That makes it sound like he's saying 'is poor', but I think DDG's clarification should be enough.

He's been around long enough to know how to speak to the press, so we should take him at his word.

It was 'es-port team' and 'team es-port'.
 
He will be our captain next season so he can't he slipping up anymore, hopefully he hasn't got an inept back four in front of him again.
 
It's possible for both of them to not be good enough. Henderson is bang average and has no standout qualities at all. De Gea at least has great reflexes but is very poor at organisation, coming out to catch aerial balls (unless they're literally underneath his crossbar), sweeping and distribution.

Honestly, De Gea is low down the list of problems in the team (and we're never going to shift him on the wages he has anyway) so I'm not too fussed about him staying as long as we can drastically change a lot of the rest of the side. However, if we were in a better position where we didn't need to feck off half the team, he's definitely someone we can improve upon. I'd rather have near half of the other keepers in the league over him.
We couldn't improve too much on De Gea,

He's not perfect but he most certainly is one of the best keepers in the premiership right now.
 
Except that didn't happen, did it? Henderson's run in goal last season is literally the best our defence has been in the last four seasons (both by the eyes and the stats). You can try to claim it was coincidence, or put a lot of stress on the 2-3 games where Henderson did have poor games, but overall that was the best our defence has looked for years.
Give over :lol:

Does that game against Liverpool not give you nightmares still??

It does me!!
 
He’s spot on. He’s done his job this season and has a positive xG prevented, and by some way. He can’t pass, so what? He passes better than Fred, McTominay and Bruno, our weekly midfield three. I’m not even exaggerating.

He has definitely earned the right to start next season as number 1. If Ten Hag deems that his passing is too poor, then let’s look at a new goalkeeper. Either way, Dean Henderson is not the answer.
 
Our defence was better with Henderson in goal. We conceded less goals. Henderson would have started this season if he didn't get COVID. We could have had a better look at him to see how the team performed as a whole. Don't know if he was good enough, but I would have liked to have seen more. Nobody has gotten the chances over the last 10 years that De Gea has had. Nobody has played more games than De Gea has over that timeframe. If there is any constant, it is De Gea.

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And who did Henderson play against? As context is key of your throwing a bunch of stats out!
How many did we win? How many goals did we score? Etc etc.

The funny thing is he actually faced MORE shots than DDG during them stats period and had way more saves per game, which surely suggests that we weren't great in defence and in fact even worse, hence the more shots etc??!!!
 
He has been one of the few players playing well and obviously cares about the club and shows some fecking character!

Shame on you seriously ungrateful "supporters"

No hard feelings, however, we need to upgrade soon. We thank him for his services
 
Give over :lol:

Does that game against Liverpool not give you nightmares still??

It does me!!

I love that this goal always gets thrown up against Henderson. It's the fall back of everyone who is not willing to accept that he was a far better fit for the team and it resulted in more positive results because they conceded less goals. All the stats and performance metrics prove it. Then you have the oh he only played against shit teams argument, DDG has been conceding over a goal a game for 3 seasons and has barely kept a clean sheet against all teams good and bad.

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Literally the worst goal I've ever seen a pro keeper concede. But if that one Liverpool goal gives you nightmares this one should be keeping you up at night.
 
Him and Ronaldo the only ones who aren't walking embarrassments.

Yep. Agreed.

The players being unable to follow instructions of Ralf really does show how unprofessional a lot of our players are and it also shows the player power in the dressing room.
They've become so used to throwing managers under the bus that they were playing badly and didn't even have the decency to try.
The board has made the players extremely comfortable - they don't have any fear of the consequences of their poor performances.

They might try a little for a few weeks under ETH, but I have no doubt that they will attempt to throw him under the bus fairly soon, too.
 
No hard feelings, however, we need to upgrade soon. We thank him for his services

He'll probably finish up as POTY.
I don't see a reason to sell our best players. We need to sell our worst.