Yep, interesting choice of words. He clearly doesn’t like the cut of some of these guys gibs
De Gea post-season interview: "Ones who want to stay, stay at the club. Ones that don't want to stay go out. You don't have to stay here."
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Well said Dave
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De Gea's flaws as a player are irrelevant in this case. The same with Mata.
Because what they're referring to seems to be basic professionalism. There are obviously players who haven't been meeting the required standard behind the scenes, who have have a bad attitude, who don't want to be here, who are leaking shit to the press and who are creating a toxic atmosphere.
And the likes of De Gea and Mata are entitled to call out that lack of character and desire to be here because flawed though they are themselves as footballers, they at least have the credit of having lasted a long time at the top level while being consistently regarded as good pros and teammates. It sounds like the people they're referring to wouldn't be able to say the same.
Because what they're referring to seems to be basic professionalism. There are obviously players who haven't been meeting the required standard behind the scenes, who have have a bad attitude, who don't want to be here, who are leaking shit to the press and who are creating a toxic atmosphere.
And the likes of De Gea and Mata are entitled to call out that lack of character and desire to be here because flawed though they are themselves as footballers, they at least have the credit of having lasted a long time at the top level while being consistently regarded as good pros and teammates. It sounds like the people they're referring to wouldn't be able to say the same.
Alot of our players really are shite.
Which get near being in the Man City or Liverpool squad?
Could argue that Greenwood pre situation, Ronaldo and Varane could start and do well in those teams. Possibly Sancho makes the bench. That's about it.
Which get near being in the Man City or Liverpool squad?
Could argue that Greenwood pre situation, Ronaldo and Varane could start and do well in those teams. Possibly Sancho makes the bench. That's about it.
Unless you are part of the club and has daily interactions with the players, you have no idea. Not even the beginning of it.
He’s certainly letting off what’s been on his chest.
I really do wonder what’s been going on
Looks like the Spanish core has spokern.
First it was Mata yesterday, now it is Dave.
First it was Mata yesterday, now it is Dave.
Legend.
Guilty by association?
By all accounts, he seems like a good egg, just a bit reserved, otherwise he's captain material.
That his pal at sky sports neville championed he was doing a great job of doing before then going onto say he doesn't like this bunch of players a season later despite it being all ole's doingWeren't we supposed to bring in players with "good" characters and value under Ole? So much for the famed cultural reset
Not everyone likes his style but he’s not a coward he just plays the game his own way. He’s been good this season and he’s got the balls to call his team mates out in public. I’ve said it before but he’d probably kick the daylights out of anyone calling him a coward to his face. Not that I would approve.
Nah. The players that any given person doesn’t like are obviously who’s being talked about. How could you possibly deny such evidence as hobbers disliking them.
The same players were here last season and he never mentioned anything. A shitty season, with a manager who came in that had absolutely no clue other to talk about how we need a new squad to beat the likes of Norwich and Watford.
Hopefully ten Hag's got a bit more about him!
How can you say this with a straight face? These problems began during Solskjaer's tenure, and have only come to a head now. It's what happens when you pick players irrespective of form, and sideline others; when you hoard players, promise them game time, and then renege. Resentment.
When has DDG never taken responsibility? The last time he fronted up to the cameras like this, he was stripped of the captaincy.
ETH is probably looking for the first flight back to Amsterdam. This team is a total mess and one transfer window will not solve all the problems...
Was going to ask why everyone throws Shaws name in when discussing this? He was one of the first to publicly call out the players when he done it in a post match interview months ago.
I really don't think it's him
In summary, you’re putting words into my mouth.
I’m allowed to believe that Ten Hag will deliver more than 58 points while still believing he is being set up to fail. I’m also allowed (and right, for what it’s worth) in thinking that De Gea is full of hot air and mistakes.
Are you a body language expert?
If you're not you're just guessing just like all of us.
I’m 7ft 2 built like a man mountain fella. I’d throw him about like wet lettuce.
Right fecking on David.
Ooof.. Well said Dave, you can stay! Staking a claim from the captaincy as well
Definitely not captain material. Saying what he knows the fans want to hear at this moment doesn't make him a leader sorry.
My issue with him saying this is that he also needs to be improving and could have done better too. Not because he's done well on some occasions doesn't mean he shouldn't take any blame. He shares the blame with his team mates. It's a collective shit performance. That the bit that bothers me about what he said.
What he's saying has nothing to do with ability, it is all about attitude and how you act. And that goes into trust as well. Too many players have stopped pulling the same way and it shows. Nobody is entitled to win matches, you have to earn it and go through so much to win. Not enough sacrifices have been made and it is glaring.
Dave was captain while Young was injured and after Dave did this kind of interview, Ole gave it to Maguire who didn't had any respect among players. Ole's all decisions were awful.
Yeah, that’s so true. His ball playing abilities are not even good. People making out the as De Gea cannot kick a football.
Taking responsibility takes different forms. Talking is one thing, but he never seems to improve his deficiencies. He should maybe concentrate on that first before throwing team mates under the bus when he himself hasn't been excellent.
When has DDG never taken responsibility? The last time he fronted up to the cameras like this, he was stripped of the captaincy.
Well said. He isn't talking about talent or performance here. It's attitude, desire, effort, character.
Hes basically said a few boys need to feck off.
Hes not talking about anyones performance
Can’t believe Dave is getting criticised for anything this season. The shambles our team and coaching has been, he’s 1 of only 2 that can say they’ve actually put a shift in and played for the shirt.
If ETH decided to fire off every outfield player I’d be in full support, horrible team and horrible individuals who don’t care.
If ETH decided to fire off every outfield player I’d be in full support, horrible team and horrible individuals who don’t care.
He thinks his job is just making saves.
Believe what you want. Hopefully you bother to support the club next season.
The most vocal he has ever done in his career. Finally!!
Let me say it again, you have no clue. You know that it could also be no one or one person that he doesn't like and isn't on your radar. Keep in mind that more often than not people will try to make themselves look and sound good, they will build a narrative that suit them in particular when it comes to interpersonal relationships.
On this front I will not take sides because I know by experience that things aren't that simple that things aren't obvious at all when you are not closely involved. It's beyond naive to pretend otherwise.
He played every single minute of this season and 57 goals were conceded with him goal. He is also extremely passive in goal. He is part of the problem.
Fighting talk from one of the biggest bottlers in the squad. What an absolute mess we're in. De Gea can talk all he wants, he's fecking shit like the rest of them.
Who said that we lost the final due to Maguire's absence? We lost it because the then manager didn't want to make subs and Rashford vibing the whole game.
Nothing was said because Ole was massaging egos of his group of favourites and de gea was at risk of being benched during Oles genius two goal keeper experiment.
it’s clear that big and lengthy contracts were handed out giving unprofessional Instagram arseholes a sense of security over whoever the manager was. The decent enough pros were largely silent. Where does speaking out become disrupting the squad? let’s hope Ten Hag brings in a rake load of players who actually want to be here and more importantly....know their fuking place.
How can I say with a straight face that the dressing room completely breaking down and the behind the scenes toxicity this season is completely different to what the dressing room was like in the two seasons before when we finished much higher and got far better results with a straight face? Super easily actually. Because it’s true to anyone without an agenda. I never said Ole was blameless - I agree with a bloated squad although the hoarding of players and constantly playing “favourites” explains the unhappiness first half of the season - not the second half of the season when the squad was far smaller and AWB, Shaw, Maguire and Rashford have all been dropped at various points. So if it was that simple why did we get worse with even more toxicity ending the season with 3 wins in 10 and 16th in the form table? Something has gone massively wrong behind the scenes and just simply saying Ole, Maguire, Mctominay doesn’t actually answer the question. It doesn’t come fecking close actually. Every single player is underperforming. We play shit regardless of who starts.