I think £350,000 is a staggering amount of money. If we want to regain any control of our wage system, we must not repeat the same mistakes we did with Sanchez. I too was previously saying "sign him at any cost" but a part of me thinks, where does this all end? At what point will someone say "these wages are ridiculous?". Its a difficult situation for the club because he is the best player and he should be paid the most. But I also think its time we had a cap that we won't go above for any player.
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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Pay the man his money.
Difference between Sanchez and Dave is Dave has earned it.
And who says we don't have a cap?
The mistake we made with Sanchez was to pay a ridiculous wage to a past his prime player we didn't even need.
De Gea is very much in his prime and only a fool would say we don't need him.
De Gea is very much in his prime and only a fool would say we don't need him.
I agree on the first point that Dave has more than earned it. I don't believe for a second that we have a cap because I was under the impression the jump from wages between Pogba and Sanchez was substantial. I don't know what the exact numbers are, so maybe that was wrong to assume. Do you know them by any chance?
It stops when you are not faced with contract negotiations with players that are the best in the world in their position. Otherwise it’s a fecking brainfart with Sanchez
Pay him what ever he wants even if we get a replacement surely a top top keeper would cost 100 mil and on top his massive wages.
Would cost silly money to replace him with a keeper who wouldn't even be as good. Give him what he wants. He's worth every penny
It is probably one of the worst decisions we have made in quite some time. From the top of my head, only Moyes can top it.
Nobidy has the slightest idea what Sanchez earns.
Furthermore Sanchez earning far more than Pogba doesn't mean we don't have a cap. I can't imagine running a business without a salary structure.
If we get Sanchez, Fellaini, Rojos, Mata and Valencia off our books then it would look like a bargain
Why the feck arent we nailing this.?
This is the fairest thing I have read all week and it is about someone earning £350,000 a week to catch footballs.
Least Moyes gave it to a great club legend who was still performing at a decent rate. Unlike Sanchez who feels like he's not even in the club.
His Madrid dream is over. There aren't much clubs that can afford to pay him that kind of wage. I'm sure we can negotiate a better deal than 350k a week
Does it really matter though? If we save 50k/week from him, that would amount to 2.5m per year. That is not even 0.5% of our income, and prolonging the signing of our best player for that is probably not the best thing we can do.
Do bargains when it matters. If we are postponing this for 50k/week or so, then really there is something wrong with the club.
I don't blame him. He's been our most consistent and important player for years. He deserves to be top earner.
Let's face it, we shouldn't have given Sanchez that amount of money in the first place (free transfer or not). Over the years De Gea is the one shining light that has kept us going and to be fair he has a point. At this stage I think we just have to accept that he can ask for what he wants and we'd almost be stupid to not give it to him. I really rate Romero but if we had to replace De Gea I honestly have no idea who we'd go for these days.
350k and the skippers armband and that should tie him down for another 5-6 years.
I'm very relaxed about this to be honest. I'm certain he's staying.
I'm very relaxed about this to be honest. I'm certain he's staying.
Oblak, who'd cost 90m but perhaps 100k a week less. So not worth it then really given that we'd only fetch about 40m for De Gea with his contract running down so we'd lose money on the deal and get a slightly inferior (though otherworldly) keeper. That's the best case scenario after De Gea staying of course. The other scenarios are grim.
Yeh I think it matters especially with wage structure, and hoq it affects future contract talks with other players due to this precedent another thing is also wage percentage increase. If our wage bill rises too high too quickly it can be a problem.
We are in a good negotiation position. No need to spread open our legs for any wage demand asked in the first go.
The Sanchez deal is going to be an issie for all of our club stars for a few years. Cant blame Alexis... who would turn that down? However the likes of De Gea, Martial, Pogba and co are in there rights to ask for somerhing in the same ball park.
That free transfer/swap now doesnt deem such a good deal. I'd rather have Mikhi competing for a spot right now than a struggling Alexis ( and I hope he can turn it aroind but every game it seems less likely).
As for DDG he really doesnt have anywhere else to go with RM havibg signed Courtouis, Barcz being in a good position. PSG maybe?
That free transfer/swap now doesnt deem such a good deal. I'd rather have Mikhi competing for a spot right now than a struggling Alexis ( and I hope he can turn it aroind but every game it seems less likely).
As for DDG he really doesnt have anywhere else to go with RM havibg signed Courtouis, Barcz being in a good position. PSG maybe?
If he does leave:
- where do you find another player with the same quality?
- clubs will know that you just got 100mil on David and will ask huge amounts for their keepers
- a new keeper will need convincing to come here, financial one
So, in reality, it's kind of the same shit, you sell, you buy, you pay a new big salary. Why not pay the guy what he wants and get it over the line? This way you're keeping your asset, you don't deal with a new keeper coming in, adapting to the club, the league and so on. The only one can replace him is Oblak, and Atletico will ask a shit ton of money for him.
If Alexis is on 450K a week, well, David is at least worth that. Remove David from this team and we would've finished 10th in the last seasons.
The only bonus really is that based on the past few years, De Gea is the only player who could even think about asking for that sort of money (based on performances, I don't know what other higher profile players bring in). This is probably De Gea's last BIG contract (assuming 5-6 year) and I don't blame him for pushing to be top earner at the club.
I think Oblak has a clause around 90m. That's what it would take so we'd lose money on that deal.
Sanchez has fecked us over. If we give the same contract to De Gea, it'll be matter of time until Pogba asks for a raise then God knows who's next
Give him the 350 and raise it another 150
Pogba deserves it. Anyone else who asks for that sort of money can do one though, unless there’s some amazing improvements.
Does De Gea only have one year left on his contract? Or untill the summer?
I don't think you have much choice but to pay him what he wants. He's in control of these talks.
Pay the money he signs, if not he leaves on a free and I can bet all the top clubs in Europe will offer him big wages and a massive signing on fee.
Then United STILL have to go out and spend 50,60,70 million plus big wages on a new keeper in De Geas class.
Not sure what your board are dithering about tbh.
I don't think you have much choice but to pay him what he wants. He's in control of these talks.
Pay the money he signs, if not he leaves on a free and I can bet all the top clubs in Europe will offer him big wages and a massive signing on fee.
Then United STILL have to go out and spend 50,60,70 million plus big wages on a new keeper in De Geas class.
Not sure what your board are dithering about tbh.
We need to flog Sanchez to China asap and pass the wages off as a Mourinho mistake.
I think he is likely to be on 250K with bonus performance that could take him to 300K.
He's been our best player over the last 6 years. His agent has all the cards here. Not long left on his contract, other people at the club on better money.
Starting point for any negotiation would surely be "making him the highest paid or it's not for discussion".
The Sanchez thing was always going to be a problem. You can't pay players silly money unless you're able to pay all of them silly money. The only exceptions would be people like Ronaldo or Messi where you can justify them being a one off.
Starting point for any negotiation would surely be "making him the highest paid or it's not for discussion".
The Sanchez thing was always going to be a problem. You can't pay players silly money unless you're able to pay all of them silly money. The only exceptions would be people like Ronaldo or Messi where you can justify them being a one off.
He has a contract until summer 2020.
To be honest I doubt there's much dithering going on probably just small details. He was in a position of being in the last season of his deal before and signed on. I think he's one of the few loyal club servants left at the top level.
Ah so he has this and next season. Also I don't think he had a choice in his contract being extended by United? I may be wrong.
If sanchez is worth 350k a week plus any signing on fee PLUS mkhi(40m) then De Gea is worth 350k a week all day long. Your best player by far and for the longest.
I think everyone knows he will get the 350k he wants and deserves. Although Id be quite happy for him to move on tbh....
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