De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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This might sound weird and in some way self inflicting but if he wants to leave next season and this pay rise is for 1 year only then i rather see him gone after this season.I know some see it as better solution to have him 1 more year till we find replacement,plus more transfer fee and i wont say they are wrong but feck that,if he wants to leave sell him right after this season ends,Casillas is still in strong position there and he would not make things easy for DDG.

I rather we sell him when its not perfect for them to want him,then we give him pay rise just so he can join them when it fits best for them.I know it might sound bitter or stupid but i rather take less transfer fee just so they cant have perfect transfer.
 
The potential transfer ban is interesting. At least it would mean we get a decent price for him if he does go (you would think).
 
This might sound weird and in some way self inflicting but if he wants to leave next season and this pay rise is for 1 year only then i rather see him gone after this season.I know some see it as better solution to have him 1 more year till we find replacement,plus more transfer fee and i wont say they are wrong but feck that,if he wants to leave sell him right after this season ends,Casillas is still in strong position there and he would not make things easy for DDG.

I rather we sell him when its not perfect for them to want him,then we give him pay rise just so he can join them when it fits best for them.I know it might sound bitter or stupid but i rather take less transfer fee just so they cant have perfect transfer.

Understandable from a fans perspective, but try explaining that line of reasoning to the shareholders..
 
Question that begs the mind from a reasonable perspective is the mindset of De Gea if he stays for another season ( when he made his mind up in actually leaving). It's well known that Ronaldo wasnt in the best state of mind when he hang on for another season. Interesting to see how things will unfold that's for sure.
 
Question that begs the mind from a reasonable perspective is the mindset of De Gea if he stays for another season ( when he made his mind up in actually leaving). It's well known that Ronaldo wasnt in the best state of mind when he hang on for another season. Interesting to see how things will unfold that's for sure.

Indeed, and this is why I think that due to the events that have gone on this season (or not), it is pointless for us to hold on to him - as it was with Ronaldo.

This could change if De Gea imminently came out professing his loyalty to the club and signed a new deal. But the simple length of time this "saga" has gone on with no word of reassurance from DDG or his agent, pretty much tells us what we need to know.
 
The potential transfer ban is interesting. At least it would mean we get a decent price for him if he does go (you would think).

If we refuse to sell this summer, and Madrid appeals their ban which would mean it takes effect next summer after the appeal is denied, they won't be able to sign him on a free when his contract runs out. Success?
 
Question that begs the mind from a reasonable perspective is the mindset of De Gea if he stays for another season ( when he made his mind up in actually leaving). It's well known that Ronaldo wasnt in the best state of mind when he hang on for another season. Interesting to see how things will unfold that's for sure.
Except Euro 2016 is coming up - I'm sure he wants to make the team and obviously won't if he plays crap.
 
Is he an idiot ? All the transfers you are mentioning have been made before is arrival, since then we signed Van Persie, Mata, Herrera, Falcao, Shaw, Di Maria, re-signed Rooney.

The club spent more than 75m in the last 3 seasons, there is no ambition problems here, except maybe is own lack of ambition, if he really wants to leave , because an ambitious player would be excited by the prospect of being instrumental in the success of a club like United in the post-Ferguson Era.

The transfers may have been made before his arrival however after his arrival most of them became first teamers. Also things change and what was acceptable for a young keeper from Athletico may not be acceptable by a world class keeper.

We ended up 7th place and we'll probably end 3-4th this season. All our big name signings can be interpreted as a desperate move from a desperate club whose fallen way down in terms of quality and is trying to claw back to it former glory. We should have never allowed quality to slip down so much in the first place and should have added quality not because we slipped to 7th place but because only quality players DESERVE to succeed Scholes, Ronaldo and Giggs.

Hopefully we'll learn from our mistakes and once we're back on top we'll make sure to bring the quality players we need to remain there. I still believe that the treble side would have won at least another CL title if only SAF replaced the likes of Schmeichel, Blomqvist, Johnsen and Irwin with quality players. Unfortunately we went for players who were more suited for Bolton than a top club (Bosnich, Jordi Cruyff and frigging Silvestre).
 
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If Real Madrid get handed a transfer ban, it will probably be enforced for the 2016/2017 season, so they will be desperate to try and get him this summer.

So even if he has only a year left, we should still hold them to ransom. If they don't pay, and he still walks away for free. He'll have to wait 6 months before he can sign with them or join another team on a long contract.
 
I think De gea has really fecked us over with his contract situation, lost my respect for him. C.Ronaldo also wanted to go but atleast we were very well compensated for his departure (although with the money paid for Bale and Neymar still feels like Real got for cheap). But £20m for a keeper in the mold of DDG is just ridiculous.

I think we should never ever agree to such a fee. It would just ridicule us a club.

I would give DDG the choice:

You can either sign a new 5 year contract and earn £200k a week and we will include an escape clause for £80m. If Real is then serious for getting you they will pay £80m either this summer or in the future. If they don't then you stay with us and be the best paid goalkeeper in the world at one of the biggest clubs in the world, whose fans love you and that will be in the CL next year again and will seek to climb up to the European top again over the next coming years (not really bad position to be in as a young GK I'd think).

Or you chose for Madrid over us and refuse to sign a new contract and pressure into doing something that we don't want to do. Which is keep you to your contract that runs till 2016 and than you can do what you want (go to Madrid, go to Barca, go to fecking syberia for all we care). And if you refuse to play for us than we will let you play with the U21 and find a new replacement for the first team or let Valdes take that role.

But the option to go to Madrid this summer for £20m is not on the table Davy boy !

He didn't fecked us at all. We slipped to 7th place, we couldn't afford selling him before (we have already too much drama in defense without having to lose our best player) and we're now paying the consequences. If you buy Aston Villa, Everton and Blackburn players and you bring managers and coaches suited for clubs of that level than you shouldnt be surpised if you end up like them. Value indeed.

In my opinion we should try and wrap our summer signings NOW. That would further enforce our intent that we mean business. It may be enough for DDG to stay (I am sure that he would rather play alongside Hummels than Jones, Evans or Mcnair) or if it not it may raise the team's morale at a time we need it most.

PS: I have nothing about cherry picked quality players from small clubs once in a while but we all know that the 'value' strategy was more than that. It was meant to bring in players not because they had great potential but simply because they could fit nicely in our wage structure. That's not how a big club acts.
 
Did he grow up in Madrid supporting atletico or did they buy him at a young age?
 
So weird that he's desperate to go to Real Madrid then.
He left Atletico to go abroad which was probably tougher at 20 than returning to Spain to play in the same city he grew up in. He doesn't feel much affiliation with Atletico I guess.
 
He left Atletico to go abroad which was probably tougher at 20 than returning to Spain to play in the same city he grew up in. He doesn't feel much affiliation with Atletico I guess.
Either way if he's an atletico supporting it's very strange to be dying to play for Real Madrid.
 
He didn't fecked us at all. We slipped to 7th place, we couldn't afford selling him before (we have already too much drama in defense without having to lose our best player) and we're now paying the consequences. If you buy Aston Villa, Everton and Blackburn players and you bring managers and coaches suited for clubs of that level than you shouldnt be surpised if you end up like them. Value indeed.

In my opinion we should try and wrap our summer signings NOW. That would further enforce our intent that we mean business. It may be enough for DDG to stay (I am sure that he would rather play alongside Hummels than Jones, Evans or Mcnair) or if it not it may raise the team's morale at a time we need it most.

PS: I have nothing about cherry picked quality players from small clubs once in a while but we all know that the 'value' strategy was more than that. It was meant to bring in players not because they had great potential but simply because they could fit nicely in our wage structure. That's not how a big club acts.
Your constant rant about how awful our players are and how someone of the ilk of DDG would be disheartened to play with them is mind numbingly boring.
 
If it makes you feel any better, he was making almost the exact same points before and during the most sustained period of success in the history of the club.
I remember that as well. I could also understand the frustration last year when things were going from bad to worse every week. But now that things have started to look up, with players actually gelling and performing well, people should come off this constant need to pull down our players. No one claims that all of them are world class but we are slowly building up towards a team who can compete for honors at the highest level. Not every squaddie needs to be the best in his position. You need players who will work their socks off for the club and will be happy to be rotated. And if we just give up on youth and young guns coming through our ranks, might as well close shop and go the City route of trying to buy for every position.
 
Real Madrid won't trump that wage offer though, that's for sure.
With the current pound-euro rate it'll be 280k/week, which would make De Gea their second highest earner (if they match this wage). I doubt that they will offer him more than half of it.

It won't stop people saying that he left us for money though (if the fecker leaves).
 
I've already resigned myself to the fact that he's off. Which is a massive shame.

I just hope the recruitment of a new keeper goes smoother than what we've done in the past at times. I'd be happy with Valdes for the time being but we really need to be thinking long term too.
 
Top 4 isn't guarenteed yet, let alone qualifying to the group stage, so confidence in making the last 16 is a bit of a stretch.

De Gea has been offered an obcene amount of money, but being Spanish he may choose to play in Spain for a team that is favourite to make the CL semis every season. Neuer plays for the top team in his country, which is on par with Real in terms of potential success in the CL. Why would he even contemplate to join our top four struggles?

Hull 1 Liverpool 0 - top four not guaranteed now ;) "Why would he even contemplate to join our top four struggles?" As I've said - he's on a reputed £90k a week & Bayern could not dream of matching our offer to DeGea. Make that offer to Neuer's agent & he's as good as on his way, IMO.
 
Hull 1 Liverpool 0 - top four not guaranteed now ;) "Why would he even contemplate to join our top four struggles?" As I've said - he's on a reputed £90k a week & Bayern could not dream of matching our offer to DeGea. Make that offer to Neuer's agent & he's as good as on his way, IMO.
Is he on that low money? I thought that he is on top 3 most paid keepers (with Casillas and Hart) at around 150k/week euros.

Bayern likely won't match that wage, but considering how important he is for that team, they will likely significantly increase their wage. And then Neuer probably won't want to leave anyway. Apparently when we were interested on him, he didn't even listened to our offers and wanted just Bayern.
 
Hull 1 Liverpool 0 - top four not guaranteed now ;) "Why would he even contemplate to join our top four struggles?" As I've said - he's on a reputed £90k a week & Bayern could not dream of matching our offer to DeGea. Make that offer to Neuer's agent & he's as good as on his way, IMO.
And why can't Bayern match the offer? It's not like Neuer is the best paid goalkeeper right now, oh wait he is. Neuer would probably laugh about a offer from us and money is no problem for Bayern either.
 
Is he on that low money? I thought that he is on top 3 most paid keepers (with Casillas and Hart) at around 150k/week euros.

Bayern likely won't match that wage, but considering how important he is for that team, they will likely significantly increase their wage. And then Neuer probably won't want to leave anyway. Apparently when we were interested on him, he didn't even listened to our offers and wanted just Bayern.

I'm as reliant on an internet search as anyone else, in so far as trying to glean Neuer's salary. All I've said in this thread, is that if DeGea goes, put his resolve to the test with a matching offer to Neuer.
 
200k a week for a keeper...Jesus. I want him to stay but that's a ridiculous amount of money.
 
200k a week for a keeper...Jesus. I want him to stay but that's a ridiculous amount of money.

If we have the money to do it, why not? plus, it may be one of the only ways to compete with Real Madrid's pulling power. Take into account that Falcao will soon be off the books too, which will free up a bulk of wages.
 
I'm as reliant on an internet search as anyone else, in so far as trying to glean Neuer's salary. All I've said in this thread, is that if DeGea goes, put his resolve to the test with a matching offer to Neuer.

I've always got the impression (despite, for some reason, not liking the guy at all) that Neuer wants to play for Munich. He's a leader there, looks right at home. Nothing stopping him staying there for 10+ years. Can't see him leaving Germany so relatively early (for a GK) in his career. Might go to Italy or Spain when he's in his mid 30s.
 
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