Yes. They might have them, love them etc. once they're there, but they didn't want them in an ideal world.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Yes. They might have them, love them etc. once they're there, but they didn't want them in an ideal world.
The way you and your mates feel about something isn't automatically the way every other person that age thinks - you realise that, right?
In the scenario that you are quoting, we buy Bale for a lesser price plus De Gea.
Good post. For me, it makes little sense for him to make the move now, given his age as well as the fact that Casillas is still around. He's part of a team on the up, where he's clearly comfortable, will be (and already has been) afforded patience beyond the alternative while he firmly cements himself as one of the best couple of goalies in the world. I'd also imagine we'd make him the best paid goalie in the world.
He has plenty of time to sign another contract, continue to develop and challenge himself, and be part of a process that I have a hard time seeing won't end up with quite a few titles (red tinted specs on there, obviously, but still, I think most would agree) AND move to Madrid in three or four years and still enjoy a respectable career there (with the added bonus of Casillas out of the way), should that be his dream.
For me there seems to be only two possible reasons why he would want to make the move already now: Personal reasons, such as have been discussed in here already, in which case fair play to him - I'm certainly not one to tell him what's important to him or not. Or alternatively, he believes that if he doesn't move now, they will replace Casillas with someone else, and he won't get another chance. Based on the stuff from the Mail today, that might seem likely. If that's the case, again, fair play to him, but I can't help but feel slightly disappointed.
Not really followed the media rubbish but he'll go back at some point, look at Ronaldo and that's the price you pay when you sign foreign players. It'd be like Giggs, Scholes etc going over to play abroad, if the big English clubs came calling after a few years then they'd wanna go back before long. We've had De Gea a few seasons and anyone thinking of a Schmeichel or Ole length of stay each time we sign a young foreign player with potential is setting themselves up for a fall.
I had no idea.
In which case this is exactly the sort of practice that we should review (read: stop). Stop encouraging our players to sign with him, avoid signing his clients where possible/not too damaging etc. Problem is, he's so powerful and has so many scouts and clients that other clubs will love it if we stop using his services and they have better access to his players by consequence. At the very least though, we should stop doing shite like the Bebe deal.
If he goes to Madrid, Casillas won't be there.
I don't know why people are somehow thinking that this is happening cause of Mendez. De Gea is the one who makes this decision, no-one else (well maybe his girlfriend).
I think it's fair to assume the way he's handled his contract negotiations have something to do with his agent, no?
I'm not referring to the fact that DDG wants to leave, that's probably entirely him, but certainly IF he doesn't renew his contract before leaving and therefore goes for a lowball fee, I'd find it hard to believe Mendes had no influence in the way it was handled (this is the hypothetical I started with before going into all this, see previous posts).
Why would he want to renew his contract though? In that way United will get more money, but he would get a smaller wage/fee signing at the best case, or Madrid will go for someone else on the worst case. It is quite logical to not renew your contract if you want to leave.
And why should Real do that? De Gea is not worth much and they can get him for free a year later, so they will still want a insane fee for Bale. Will be something like 80 million euros instead of 100, bargain^^
Real has everything in their hand right now, that's the problem. Why should they give us one of their players cheaper to make us a favor when they can just wait another year, get Dave for free and still sell some players they want to offload for big fees.
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Of course, but equally this is clearly a tactic he has discussed with his agent, as players do - in all likelihood his agent made him aware of this scenario being possible quite a while ago, as they tend to plan these things well in advance. I would also have thought that a club that did favours to Mendes like the Bebe thing would do so to be on good terms with him, so that situations like the current one don't arise. Clearly, if this scenario plays out, he won't exactly have done us any favours.
Also it's not like players run down their contracts strategically all the time, plenty of them do resign to guarantee their club a decent fee, despite it not being an income maximising technique.
Nah, I'm pretty sure I've nailed this one.
Is this also something that can be blamed on Moyes? If he signed Thiago, you can bet de Gea would have extended by now
How so?
The Independent says United think they've won the battle to keep him for one more season. They say he'll sign a new contract and stay for one more year ala Ronaldo and Suarez.
I'm joking (maybe) but this was from last summer.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...ter-united-transfers-thiago-alcantara-1967527
It's amazing to think of a situation where a player resigns to staying another season by being offered £200,000 per year...
Unfortunately when you actually read it there seems to be very little in it.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ith-offer-of-200000perweek-deal-10211022.html
I'd rather he piss off this summer instead of doing us a favour by staying for another year and getting a pay rise for it too.
Ah, fair enough. Even though they're friendly though, it's beginning to look as if De Gea would have had his sights set on Real Madrid either way.
Nah, as much as it's arguably annoying to have a player here who's planning to leave in the long term, I'd be delighted if we could get him on a new contract and keep him for another year. We'd get a lot more money for him, and we'd get him hopefully still playing superbly in goal while we get more time to look for our ideal replacement.
This would be the best scenario for sure.
Yeah, with Euro 2016 he'll be massively motivated even if it is his last season. Definitely a good thing if he's still here after the summer.
Anyone thinking he won't eventually join Real is deluding themselves. So, best case, we get another year (at least) and he helps us win some things next year, plus a better fee when he does leave. We'll have another year to scout a new GK and build a better defensive line too. I'll take that.
Looks like Real are getting a transfer ban like Barca......
The apparent transfer bans the Madrid clubs face could make things interesting.
It will drive up his price, at least. Madrid can't afford to wait since they wouldn't be able to sign him next summer (assuming they appeal).
Where's this transfer ban stuff coming from?
A transfer ban would be ideal, so they either pay decent money this summer or can forget about him for a couple of years and he extends his contract.
Even without a transfer ban if he signs with us and leaves next year while we get a "fair" transfer fee a la Ronaldo would be OK. This way we get a world class goalie for another season, Valdes gets more time to prove himself after his injury and we'll hopefully have bought a quality CB, winger, RB and midfielder this summer and therefore can focus on the gk position during next year.
All not ideal but still better than him leaving gor peanuts this season or free next.
Even without a transfer ban if he signs with us and leaves next year while we get a "fair" transfer fee a la Ronaldo would be OK. This way we get a world class goalie for another season, Valdes gets more time to prove himself after his injury and we'll hopefully have bought a quality CB, winger, RB and midfielder this summer and therefore can focus on the gk position during next year.
All not ideal but still better than him leaving gor peanuts this season or free next.
This is interesting news.
Feck yeah, don't sell!!
Sign the contract then DDG
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If these rumours turn out to be true it is fantastic news for us. The ball is suddenly in our court again - if Real want him, they have to get him this summer, and we can demand a much better deal out of it.
Surely all that's changed with that is that we'll get loads of money for him this summer, as they'll certainly appeal the decision.
At this stage I'd rather we take a stand and keep De Gea until his contract runs out, perhaps playing him behind Valdes if he whines.
Fed up of getting shafted by Real Madrid, and if De Gea wants to help them by taking advantage of his contract situation then he he can see us take advantage of it too.
Fed up of getting shafted by Real Madrid, and if De Gea wants to help them by taking advantage of his contract situation then he he can see us take advantage of it too.
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