If that was the case, he would have actually made a move. He knew exactly that he was the star player of the team then and wanted a big fat rise from us to cash in. That's it. Nothing to do with him worrying about quality.
De Gea Contract Situation
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That's complete tripe, Chelsea kept all their players during their transition, Juventus kept world class players in Serie B, Bayern kept most of their promising players during their transition, Madrid won very little in the last 6, 7 years and they kept their best players.
If De gea wants to comeback to Spain for personal reason then fine but there is no footballing reasons.
I agree with that, but then LVG would not run his mouth saying that the press should ask DDG as we are doing everything we can to make him sign. He could easily have said that it will be taken up in the summer. I am just concerned about whether the club knows the exact situation. Are they absolutely sure that he is a goner? If not, then we need to be because we need to look for a capable replacement.
On a side note, I have also changed my vote to "no". Don't think he will sign and Madrid has had his head turned. Just wished that he would have had better leverage in terms of the price though considering all that we have done for him.
I think so. We have a top GK, who has 10 years of football ahead of him and he's on the verge of fecking off to Madrid. No reason to become suicidal over this, but it's pretty fecking annoying.
Unless we have a brilliant British core we are going to see more and more of this. Bring in young Spanish/South American players and they'll be off the minutes Spain's top two show an interest.
Me too, he's totally gone.
It's also annoying to have to add another position to the list of those we need to think about signing somebody for (dependent on whether VV will be no1, but even then we need better cover).
We've already got enough rebuilding going on!
Madrid and Chelsea have a reputation of spending top money to get the best players possible. Juventus did allow their players to leave if they want to and those who remained, did so, because they were loyal to the club.
The issue here is the level of quality in the team and how willing the club is to get back on its former great. DDG had witnessed years of decline in terms of quality players and staff. We also have a reputation of not spending big. Why should he believe in United's project when he can simply move to a better club who pays more and is seriously competing on all levels?
Even if he went back to Real in 3 years it wouldn't be as bad as now. By then you'd have to suggest we'd of rebuilt in a lot of positions and it wouldn't be as bad as now. As things stand we arguably need a right back, centre back, centre midfielder and striker next season. Add a goalkeeper to that and it's essentially the spine of a team. It's bad timing really if he goes as much as the annoyance of having to replace one of the best keepers in the world.
Yeah the club is clearly unwilling to spend like last summer showed, if he wants to go he can, there is no reason to create excuses for him.
Yeah 1 year out of 6 years of 'value' which saw Ronaldo being replaced by Valencia, Scholes being replaced by Cleverley, Giggs by Young and SAF by Moyes.
If he wants to go let him go, if he wants to stay then fantastic. Its understandable why he wants to go home, football has changed now, and probably more so for Manchester United than any other team.
No longer are we a Club that will be able to attract players for the entirety of their playing career, in truth we will be lucky to get 5 or 6 years out of most (foreign players) to add to that we are no longer the go to Club for players in England who want to attract the big wages. We have to accept that players will come and go, even if we helped them get there.
No longer are we a Club that will be able to attract players for the entirety of their playing career, in truth we will be lucky to get 5 or 6 years out of most (foreign players) to add to that we are no longer the go to Club for players in England who want to attract the big wages. We have to accept that players will come and go, even if we helped them get there.
Is he an idiot ? All the transfers you are mentioning have been made before is arrival, since then we signed Van Persie, Mata, Herrera, Falcao, Shaw, Di Maria, re-signed Rooney.
The club spent more than 75m in the last 3 seasons, there is no ambition problems here, except maybe is own lack of ambition, if he really wants to leave , because an ambitious player would be excited by the prospect of being instrumental in the success of a club like United in the post-Ferguson Era.
How do we know he wouldnt accept if we didnt offer anything to begin with? The idea for the club to wait a year is silly, We still didn't appear to offer any contract talks last year, that is my point. Discussions take place, LvG was here since pre season, get him talking to de Gea early to show his plans. Fair enough if de Gea said no, but with talks under way at least it can be worked on.
Not every club is a winner, each club has a time where they need to secure their best players for longer terms. We are not the exception here. We should implement early contract talks is what I'm saying, be it de Gea or at other player that is clearly a spine in our team.
You keeping saying why should players wait, when i'm saying why should our club wait to tie down players. You are missing my point on this one.
So, the featherweight kid who catapulted to the forefront of the heavyweight goal keepers of this World will apparently move to Madrid. Not the type of news you like to hear as a Man United fan. You guys (Madrid fans) better threat our David with the best of intentions or we might pay your streets a visit during one of those annual Madrid bullruns and throw a peanut to the raging bull, ….. behind a firm and protective fance. All jokes aside. Nothing new here. Yes, we would have loved the idea of De Gea being a longterm player in this Van Gaal era, but unfortunately the spanish vains floating through his body(according to the rumours at this point) are not resilient enough to shove an offer from Real Madrid under the table. It’s one of those conditioned adventures that every spanish kid has in his mind. Will it be a shock to fans ? it absolutely will. Will we move on ? No doubt. Why ? Because Manchester United has overcome adversity before. United, most of the times setting records and this time probably for selling (one) (of) the best goalkeeper(s) of Europe for a bottom price. At this point still rumours. He mights just wanne see how the ship will sail in terms of reaching a top 4 spot and then signing an extension. More news will surely hit the surface the coming weeks.
Even though he's my favourite player now, and I will still like him if he goes to Madrid, a bitter part of me hopes he doesn't enjoy playing for them all that much.
Feck him if he leaves. Bitterness is the way to go. I'd be happy to see him losing a title or a CL final for Madrid.
I really hope we keep him on the bench for a year and tell madrid to do one if they lowball us with the rumored 20 million pounds crap.
Feckin madrid
Feckin madrid
This an opportunity to hurt an opponent, a top European Club. We can double Neuer's salary I expect.
Indeed. I hope he gets dropped for Casillas.
There's more of a chance that Bayern will just close business and reorganize themselves to play basketball than we get Neuer.
This would be a brilliant idea. Put nobody in goal to really show everyone who is the boss.
So you're saying theres a chance? Make it happen edward!
Some tweet I seen this morning said if we buy young spanish players, develop them into world class players for them to have "the right" to a Real Madrid move because its back in there home country we really need to stop signing Spanish and South American players, we will never get to benefit them in there prime and constantly get done up the arse by Madrid.
All that's left to say is that I hope he concedes a Erik Thorstvedt level goal in his debut, his gf breaks up with him and he chokes on some paella.
To be fair I'm still unsure why we get to the stage where a top player who is only going to be better only has 18 months left on his deal before we open discussions. We should have opened discussions when he had 2 and a half years left on his deal and got it sorted by last Summer latest. If he refused to sign a new deal then, then we offload him for a substantial fee there and then.
In this case if we offer him a £200k a week 5 year deal November 2013 my view is that Madrid haven't yet made contact with his representatives and his head has not yet been turned. Even if he has a move to Spain in his head, Madrid wouldn't be willing to pay the £50m required to get him. If he refuses to sign it we can tout him around Europe for double the fee we'll likely receive.
If I were the club I'd keep hold of him even if he were to leave on a free in 2016, unless we can use him as leverage to get one of Madrid's players.
In this case if we offer him a £200k a week 5 year deal November 2013 my view is that Madrid haven't yet made contact with his representatives and his head has not yet been turned. Even if he has a move to Spain in his head, Madrid wouldn't be willing to pay the £50m required to get him. If he refuses to sign it we can tout him around Europe for double the fee we'll likely receive.
If I were the club I'd keep hold of him even if he were to leave on a free in 2016, unless we can use him as leverage to get one of Madrid's players.
All I'm saying is, test the players resolve - greed. Players rule & if we throw £200k a week at him, he'll swim the Nth Sea to get here. Money rules.
Top European clubs are not our opponents for the foreseeable future.
Ridiculous statement. We are discussing the GK position for next season & beyond. There is every chance of us facing top European opposition, in the group stages next season.
It seems inevitable now that he'll leave for them. I bllody hate them because it seems that players would kill any time Madrid show their face....
If Woody is clever, he would swap De Gea for Bale asap. A 60M + De Gea would be great
If Woody is clever, he would swap De Gea for Bale asap. A 60M + De Gea would be great
Seriously?
Worse ... hope his cock falls off as he tries to feck that hot GF of his.
We never kept a player wanted by Madrid, or any club kept a player wanted by Madrid.
So use that situation to make it less worse than it is. Accept De Gea's move, but ask a lower price for Bale
In their hand, it seems that they are tempted to buy Hazard, so that can be our chance before all
Well, yeah. However Madrid and Barca can't have more than 20 or so players, and even players who aren't good enough to play for them (the likes of Silva and Mata) are probably better than any English player (or at worst case, bar a few), so it is worth it to sign Latino players. Just then when it comes to the very best ones, we should probably start the contract negotiation a bit earlier.
We kept Ribéry in 2009 and 2010. But yeah, it's very rare.
To be fair, we have only sold Real one player that we did not want to sell.
I think De gea has really fecked us over with his contract situation, lost my respect for him. C.Ronaldo also wanted to go but atleast we were very well compensated for his departure (although with the money paid for Bale and Neymar still feels like Real got for cheap). But £20m for a keeper in the mold of DDG is just ridiculous.
I think we should never ever agree to such a fee. It would just ridicule us a club.
I would give DDG the choice:
You can either sign a new 5 year contract and earn £200k a week and we will include an escape clause for £80m. If Real is then serious for getting you they will pay £80m either this summer or in the future. If they don't then you stay with us and be the best paid goalkeeper in the world at one of the biggest clubs in the world, whose fans love you and that will be in the CL next year again and will seek to climb up to the European top again over the next coming years (not really bad position to be in as a young GK I'd think).
Or you chose for Madrid over us and refuse to sign a new contract and pressure into doing something that we don't want to do. Which is keep you to your contract that runs till 2016 and than you can do what you want (go to Madrid, go to Barca, go to fecking syberia for all we care). And if you refuse to play for us than we will let you play with the U21 and find a new replacement for the first team or let Valdes take that role.
But the option to go to Madrid this summer for £20m is not on the table Davy boy !
I think we should never ever agree to such a fee. It would just ridicule us a club.
I would give DDG the choice:
You can either sign a new 5 year contract and earn £200k a week and we will include an escape clause for £80m. If Real is then serious for getting you they will pay £80m either this summer or in the future. If they don't then you stay with us and be the best paid goalkeeper in the world at one of the biggest clubs in the world, whose fans love you and that will be in the CL next year again and will seek to climb up to the European top again over the next coming years (not really bad position to be in as a young GK I'd think).
Or you chose for Madrid over us and refuse to sign a new contract and pressure into doing something that we don't want to do. Which is keep you to your contract that runs till 2016 and than you can do what you want (go to Madrid, go to Barca, go to fecking syberia for all we care). And if you refuse to play for us than we will let you play with the U21 and find a new replacement for the first team or let Valdes take that role.
But the option to go to Madrid this summer for £20m is not on the table Davy boy !
Can we intimidate De Gea like Liverpool did with Gerrard?
Failing that, we should threaten him that he'll be on U7 categories for the next season (feck the reserves, U7 will teach him a lesson).
God, I truly hate him as a person.
Failing that, we should threaten him that he'll be on U7 categories for the next season (feck the reserves, U7 will teach him a lesson).
God, I truly hate him as a person.
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