Are you saying a top goalkeeper is easier to come by than a winger of similar quality? That's just wrong. There are less goalkeepers than wingers to begin with considering it's such a specialised position. Then you take into account the fact that in comparison to other eras there are very few top goalkeepers around these days.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Are you saying a top goalkeeper is easier to come by than a winger of similar quality? That's just wrong. There are less goalkeepers than wingers to begin with considering it's such a specialised position. Then you take into account the fact that in comparison to other eras there are very few top goalkeepers around these days.
not sure on that Pogue.....
its a positional thing - strikers and exciting attacking players will always move for more than defenders/goalkeepers
in the top 20 world transfers you have one defender (an overpriced David Luiz) and one goalkeeper (Buffon)
Schmeichal in his prime would be worth as much as the top attacking players but would never go for a similar value
is it because of it being harder to score a goal than stop one? Shirt selling? Who knows
Yup. Seems the most likely explanation. That and keepers at top clubs seeing so much less of the ball than the attacking players, hence they're less important.
Attackers have always gone for more money, but we are contemplating selling a top 3 player in his position. We bought him for £16m when he was still very raw, I would want at least £40M before even thinking about it.
What must go though his mind playing behind that lot? Every time they get near us we look shaky.
30M euros is fecking peanuts.
When we signed him he cost around 30M euros then. That's ridiculous.
AS shirt stirring again
Sounding more like he`ll be gone if we don`t make top 4 if there is any truth in that .
Don't worry lads, they missed a 0 out. 
If he goes he goes I'd rather have someone who wants to be here. Getting fed up with those half arsed mercenaries.
I think he wants to be here, but he has every right to want CL football too considering he is one of the best 'keepers in the world.
So he's looking to leave anyway? He can well and truly feck off in the summer then as long as we get a world class replacement in. Be funny watching him sit on Real Madrid's bench.
AS. The Spanish Daily Express.
Well he will get champs league with us if not next year then the year afterwards. Being out the champs league for 2 seasons won't harm him. We stood by him when he was having a hard time would be nice if he done the same. If not I won't shed tears for someone who doesn't want to be here. If he goes to Madrid I hope he has a complete nightmare.
Why would he leave this summer when he can go for free next summer and pick up a nice signing bonus?
at people turning on him over a rumour.I think we'll lose him one day to Madrid or Barca, especially considering how far we are behind those clubs now. We lost Ronaldo to Madrid when we were better than them, now the gulf is huge. Spain's number 1 will no doubt benefit from being at a top club in Spain.
In regards to whether he signs, we're more at the mercy of the transfer intentions of either of those clubs, as opposed to whether we make top 4 or not.
It's a shame cause we went through all the shit at the beginning with him, when he was costing us points and games, and now he's doing the opposite it seems like we're not going to get it for long enough.
In regards to whether he signs, we're more at the mercy of the transfer intentions of either of those clubs, as opposed to whether we make top 4 or not.
It's a shame cause we went through all the shit at the beginning with him, when he was costing us points and games, and now he's doing the opposite it seems like we're not going to get it for long enough.
One more year and €25m might be all we can expect really. We fecked up by not sorting his contract before now and we're about to take our medicine for that. This isn't de Gea's fault. If you buy a player from his boyhood club in his hometown don't expect undying loyalty.
Would you blame him?? He deserves to play for a team competing to win CL. Instead he playsll for a team currently strugling to get CL football.
I always find it baffling that random nobodies - yes, the fans - get so involved they forget that football players are actual human beings with regular emotions.
If he moves back to Madrid it's for a whole host of reasons, not resentment towards the club, or to stick it to the fans. If he is closer to his girlfriend and would be happier playing back home at another great club in the country he could well still consider home then all power to him. I certainly don't want that life choice to be a "nightmare".
There's not a huge gap in quality between the best goalkeeper in the world and the 20th best goalkeeper in the world.
On the other hand, the difference between the best winger in the world and the 20th best is massive. That's why the premiums on top class goalies are smaller than they would be for someone like Bale. There's a diminishing return on what you get for your money if you purchase someone like De Gea.
I reckon having Fraser Forster and Bale in the team would get us more points than De Gea and someone like Nasri. There's no way of knowing, of course, but that's my gut feeling.
On the other hand, the difference between the best winger in the world and the 20th best is massive. That's why the premiums on top class goalies are smaller than they would be for someone like Bale. There's a diminishing return on what you get for your money if you purchase someone like De Gea.
I reckon having Fraser Forster and Bale in the team would get us more points than De Gea and someone like Nasri. There's no way of knowing, of course, but that's my gut feeling.
Pretty good point.
I hope that he stays but haven't too much hope that he will. Get what people say in that it is an easier position to replace, but any other keeper isn't De Gea!
Kag I'm talking football terms not his life, plus if it was done to a lifestyle choice then why now and not in the last 3 years?
Wouldn't take the tweet as gospel.
100% bollox
We aren't spanish clubs or Dortmund to have release clauses in the contract.
I'm sure Mendes will wait in what direction we'll go. League position at the end of the season and summer transfers.
We have never used release clauses before so we won't do it now.
Why not?
It certainly seems to be the way things are heading, not just for us but for all Clubs.
Really? German and Spanish clubs have had release clause's in contracts for years now. They generally tend be some stupidly high figure they know no team will ever meet so they are largely irrelevant. The only example of a release clause in England I can think of is Suarez at Liverpool.
Which one of AS's journos is reporting it?
No chance will we put a release clause in for that price. It's all just baseless speculation at the minute, if Mendes says he think's he will stay - I am very confident. De Gea seem's to love it here, and unless we majorly mess up and underperform in the next few years I can see him remaining for a long time.
Even if we somehow agree to this, which might be a risky matter considering that we would be setting a precedent for such contracts, we should never agree for a figure of 30 million Euros. That would be insane.
I didn't update the OP for the poll on Sunday evening, as, for the time being, it seems to have settled around 70/30 Yes/No.
Don't forget, you can change your vote depending on how you think the likelihood of him staying or leaving changes between now and the end of the transfer window.
Don't forget, you can change your vote depending on how you think the likelihood of him staying or leaving changes between now and the end of the transfer window.
What happens if DDG refuses to sign a contract without the mentioned release clause? Do we sell him in the summer or let him leave on free next summer?
Van Nistelrooy had one at £35 million, I recall.
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