As did Remy, when they got him off QPR.
De Gea Contract Situation
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That article smells like BS, but if De Gea leaves and LVG could have stopped it, I will be severely pissed off.
The article's at:
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/02/25/primera/1424833599_639648.html
The author is one of the ones Mendes uses to place stories.
However there's nothing new in the article. It quotes the 30m clause thing from The Mirror and recycles a couple of rather indifferent sounding comments from LvG from press conferences. LvG has the habit of saying things like, he's there to stop the ball, he stopped it. Which whilst factually accurately aren't that warm and friendly either. The article then claims that's more or less the limit of their relationship in training etc as well.
It then talks about the other keepers Madrid are interested in. The first one sounds like a non-starter, Courtois. The second one is Casilla of Espanyol, who was in Madrid's academy. The third is a 19 year old playing for Tenerife. It doesn't say what Keylor Navas' place in the story is. I guess a lot of it comes down to when do they expect to replace Casillas.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/02/25/primera/1424833599_639648.html
The author is one of the ones Mendes uses to place stories.
However there's nothing new in the article. It quotes the 30m clause thing from The Mirror and recycles a couple of rather indifferent sounding comments from LvG from press conferences. LvG has the habit of saying things like, he's there to stop the ball, he stopped it. Which whilst factually accurately aren't that warm and friendly either. The article then claims that's more or less the limit of their relationship in training etc as well.
It then talks about the other keepers Madrid are interested in. The first one sounds like a non-starter, Courtois. The second one is Casilla of Espanyol, who was in Madrid's academy. The third is a 19 year old playing for Tenerife. It doesn't say what Keylor Navas' place in the story is. I guess a lot of it comes down to when do they expect to replace Casillas.
Why should Courtois be any more a non-starter than De Gea?
van Gaal strikes me as someone who wouldn't play someone he'd have fallen out with, but I dunno.
We have learnt nothing new here.
Under contract until 2019.
If RM want him, they will get him. That's how they work.
There is an after game interview with LVG 3-4 games ago where he says(and I quote): "I don't like to praise players, but he has won us a lot of points with his saves"
Yep
Then I'd get rid of them all. I'd rather be mid-table with talented kids and solid players who want to be here than with under performing players on substantial wages. This would never happen though and we'll continue too spend big for some time I think.
Football just isn't the same these days.
No you wouldn't, don't be silly.
Stopped reading when it said the paper was AS.
MEN going with the De Gea story as well (not talking to Van Gaal). 
So says BBC Gossip Column anyway.
So says BBC Gossip Column anyway.
Well, we all know the stories about LVG falling out with players at previous clubs
On a side note, I couldn't give a shit. I know De Gea will be gone sooner or later.
On a side note, I couldn't give a shit. I know De Gea will be gone sooner or later.
Perhaps, but we could do with his talent for another few years. In order for this new team to build and be successful again, having one of the best keepers in the world behind the sticks won't do us any harm in that aspect. None of our current keepers have the quality to be number one, only Lloris comes to mind who might be available in the summer but I would imagine Levy would milk us dry.Well, we all know the stories about LVG falling out with players at previous clubs
On a side note, I couldn't give a shit. I know De Gea will be gone sooner or later.
The fact we haven't been linked to that many goalkeepers in the media, could be an indication that we are quite confident De Gea will extend his contract here. Didn't Mendes come out recently and said he expects De Gea to stay for now?
I would far rather keep David De Gea than Van Gaal.
Sadly I'd be amazed if Dave isn't away in the summer. Potential to be the best keeper we've ever had.
Sadly I'd be amazed if Dave isn't away in the summer. Potential to be the best keeper we've ever had.
Guys the same day two papers contradicted about De Gea. The Mirror (if I’m right) says that De Gea and LVG are not talking since months, and the Daily Mail tells that De Gea will sign another contract.
So how we should take that? Mighty Mendes said last week that we’re renegotiating for him…
As someone said, he will leave one day because he’s too good to play 4th place or 5th place every year. If we can drastically improve the team and reach the top again, he will stay, but if we’re struggling he’ll ask to leave.
In a business way of view, we can say that we will try to get 35M€ for him plus an advantage for Bale or Modric, knowing that we have Valdes behind (if he’s still the same keeper).
In an effective way, I would like to keep him 10 more years
So how we should take that? Mighty Mendes said last week that we’re renegotiating for him…
As someone said, he will leave one day because he’s too good to play 4th place or 5th place every year. If we can drastically improve the team and reach the top again, he will stay, but if we’re struggling he’ll ask to leave.
In a business way of view, we can say that we will try to get 35M€ for him plus an advantage for Bale or Modric, knowing that we have Valdes behind (if he’s still the same keeper).
In an effective way, I would like to keep him 10 more years
Count me in as "silly" then. It's not that odd to prefer you had a team made up largely of players who really wanted to be here and didn't already have one eye on their next move.
It's solid teams like that, made up of players playing for each other and the shirt they wear, that create sustained success. Assembling packs of footballing mercenaries can buy you instant success but dynasties get built on more solid foundations. I'd cite City as an example.
They're quoting AS I believe, a ridiculously RM biased paper, so I wouldn't give it much attention.
You'd rather be mid-table would you?
You clearly never lived through the wilderness years then. I've experienced winning nothing but the odd FA Cup year after year and I've experienced winning everything in sight year after year. I prefer the later tbh.
I'm 52 years old so that negates your first wild assumption. Wilderness years my arse.
The underlying sentiment is that for some it's not just about winning, as great as that is, but how you do it and who you do it with. Call it values without which your club turns into just A.N. Other. I'd wager there's a healthy percentage of the current fanbase, including some on here, who'd drop United if they stopped winning on a permanent basis and turned into also rans. Inevitable if all you desire is to see your team win no matter how.
Unfortunately, those days are gone, footballers are mercenaries. You can not hark back to bygone days otherwise you will only go backwards, that would be a significant step backwards & I doubt anyone really wants to go down that path. You will know, like me, what is like for a little boy to see the football team he loves getting relegated. United are a money making machine, like it or not, it is simply not an option to be a midtable club, we'd go bust in 5 years.
I don't believe they are entirely. The game's awash with money but you're still going to get your one club men who play for more than the dough for example. Not all footballers are just mercenaries. Some are fans, students of the game, people of values. At some point, with the sums being earnt, more money becomes largely irrelevant. It makes sense to have a team with a core of players who aren't just there for the cash - you can't buy that and it's a glue that keeps a team working. We saw that at United for long enough we should know.
You can have a winning club, and one that makes plenty of money, without sacrificing all your values.
Just most of them.
There will always be some players that are about "more than just the money". But that won't be enough in the future.
I said I'd rather us be mid-table with the kids and loyal players than under performing top players on big wages. The guy I was replying too was basically saying we are a mid table team, which of course we currently are not but I was just saying if we was I'd rather it be with the kids and loyal players. I'm all for this spending big but if the players we spend big on don't perform then we need to be brutal and get rid and them get new faces in every transfer window.
Are these genuine quotes from him?
yes. from the performances thread
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtdu
The quotes aren't exactly effusive, are they? He seems to studiously avoid saying he and LVG get on well which might just be the way it is or indicative of a deeper issue.
He seems like a decent club man, though, so he's trying to kill the story before it gets going.
He seems like a decent club man, though, so he's trying to kill the story before it gets going.
I dont know after which game it was, but LvG shook hands with every player around him on the pitch after the game, but he ignored De Gea.
Maybe the De Gea index is finally set for a rise?
It's good that he came out and immediately addressed the rumours.
If he commented on those rumours he knows the underlying reason why they came up in the press, doesn't he? Why doesn't he comment on his future at all?
Ruins his bargaining power. Right now he holds all the cards and can probably get the highest salary of all GK's at the moment. If he comes out and says don't worry guy's I am staying, the club won't need to court him anymore.If he commented on those rumours he knows the underlying reason why they came up in the press, doesn't he? Why doesn't he comment on his future at all?
David de Gea: I'm having the best time of my life at Manchester United! Rumours about a row with Louis van Gaal are lies
David de Gea has hit back at rumours casting doubt over his Old Trafford future by dismissing stories linking him to a move away from Manchester United as 'complete lies'.
The Spaniard has been one of United's top performers this season, making countless crucial saves for the Red Devils as seek a top four finish to get back among Europe's elite after a rare absence from the Champions League.
In an exclusive interview with MUTV, De Gea responded to reports that his relationship with manager Louis van Gaal was under pressure, with rumblings in the Spanish press claiming 'the coach hasn't talked to the player in months'.
'Everything that has been written in the press about us not getting on is a lie,' the 24-year-old said.
'We both want the best for the club and the team, and the stories are complete lies.
United have made clear their intention to hand De Gea an improved contract amid apparent interest from Real Madrid.
Despite the hearsay, the former Atletico Madrid goalkeeper is convinced he is now at his best and remained focused on the job at hand.
'I think this is the best period of my career. I am playing the best football that I've ever played,' he said.
'I'm really enjoying it at the moment and I'm just trying to improve with every training session and every game that goes by, giving 100 per cent and concentrating to the maximum. That's the way I want to continue.'
Still think that he will sign a contract but it will be his last, in 1-3 years Real Madrid will come back in for him and that will be that.
- David De Gea dismissed rumours about a move away from Old Trafford
- He was also reported to have a fractured relationship with Louis van Gaal
- The Spaniard told MUTV that he is in the best moment of his career
David de Gea has hit back at rumours casting doubt over his Old Trafford future by dismissing stories linking him to a move away from Manchester United as 'complete lies'.
The Spaniard has been one of United's top performers this season, making countless crucial saves for the Red Devils as seek a top four finish to get back among Europe's elite after a rare absence from the Champions League.
In an exclusive interview with MUTV, De Gea responded to reports that his relationship with manager Louis van Gaal was under pressure, with rumblings in the Spanish press claiming 'the coach hasn't talked to the player in months'.
'Everything that has been written in the press about us not getting on is a lie,' the 24-year-old said.
'We both want the best for the club and the team, and the stories are complete lies.
United have made clear their intention to hand De Gea an improved contract amid apparent interest from Real Madrid.
Despite the hearsay, the former Atletico Madrid goalkeeper is convinced he is now at his best and remained focused on the job at hand.
'I think this is the best period of my career. I am playing the best football that I've ever played,' he said.
'I'm really enjoying it at the moment and I'm just trying to improve with every training session and every game that goes by, giving 100 per cent and concentrating to the maximum. That's the way I want to continue.'
Still think that he will sign a contract but it will be his last, in 1-3 years Real Madrid will come back in for him and that will be that.
I still think he'll move on to Real, just not this summer.
The press are twisting the feck out of those quotes to give the impression De Gea denied he'll leave. He did nothing of the sort though, as anyone with half a brain can fathom by reading the quotes. Denying you've fallen out with your manager is not the same as dismissing transfer rumours.
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