Signing Valdes has atleast given us an insurance policy, it's not like looking for a replacement becomes a mad scramble.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Jeez it's not 2008 you know. Casillas has been pretty poor the last few seasons, lord knows how he's Real's & Spain's no1, as he is no longer a top level keeper.
Would rather promote one of our younger keepers than get him in.
lol I like that idea.
Nothing, but its not like we are going to gain much from selling De Gea to Madrid. Its childish I know...
Can't wait for Di Maria to score past him in next season's CL final
Moyes also wanted good but wasn't big enough for the job. I don't how anyone could accept this tendency as a status quo.
If we were still one of leading force in Premier League perhaps Dave didn't had doubts. Not everything was done in my opinion but that's too early too say. He's still Manchester United player.
I've felt for months he's going and can't see it changing. I hope I'm wrong.
Of course, I can see the appeal for a player, particularly Spanish, wanting to go to Madrid. And he's entitled to do what he feels best for his life and career.
Can't help but feel a bit disappointed with him if he goes though. He'll basically be buggering off at the first opportunity he's had. Not one contract extension and after the club stuck by him through what was a pretty average first 12-18 months.
It could be argued he's already repaid that faith this season and last which is fair enough. I was hoping for a bit more loyalty from him but the game has moved on I suppose.
We'll move on though. I'm sure of that.
Of course, I can see the appeal for a player, particularly Spanish, wanting to go to Madrid. And he's entitled to do what he feels best for his life and career.
Can't help but feel a bit disappointed with him if he goes though. He'll basically be buggering off at the first opportunity he's had. Not one contract extension and after the club stuck by him through what was a pretty average first 12-18 months.
It could be argued he's already repaid that faith this season and last which is fair enough. I was hoping for a bit more loyalty from him but the game has moved on I suppose.
We'll move on though. I'm sure of that.
I don't understand Madrid, Navas is perfect for them and is sitting on the bench.
I have been asking that for months. Navas is far from being some random Joe after what he gave to Costa Rica in the World Cup. So the real question would be: who the hell is making player selections here? They didn't even play him for a stretch of matches in order to make a proper assessment. Also, their obsession for Spanish superstars has to be a lot worse than some United fans' obsession for signing any top British player at all costs.
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Valdes has been labelled shit by almost everyone, even Barcelona fans. What good would he bring to United if he couldn't cut it at Barcelona when they have the best ball-controlling team ahead of him?
Some of the feckwittery in here is verging on impressive.
I wish we could ask the same from Madrid and in a different way.
Not true, Most Barca fans think he is their best keeper in their history. And he was really good in his last year there too by the way. I dont know why you say he could 'cut it', He chose to leave.
I simply don't get those seriously thinking he should sign a deal so we can get more money
Are those who think this just saying it because that would be a good thing or that is actually realistic?
Are those who think this just saying it because that would be a good thing or that is actually realistic?
"Done deal" " 5 years, earning 5 millions"
Navas was amazing last season for Levante. If you look at last season's La Liga thread there are people there constantly praising him for his great saves. And then he went on to replicate that form in the World Cup as well. He's a great keeper possibly in the prime of his life. Having said that Valdes was also amazing in his last season for Barcelona. Many thought he was one of their best players in the first half of the season when he made some crucial saves. But he has had a long injury lay off since then and there is no telling how that has affected him. The injury was serious enough that it could have a permanent effect on his game and he's not exactly young anymore.
Been obvious for some time hes leaving.
Goodluck.
Goodluck.
Just changed my vote. Held out till the last moment but i think its time to accept the inevitable. Adios amigo.
He left Barca, they didn't get rid of him. And not "almost everyone" is labeling him as shit, to do so would be stupid. The way I see it (as far as I can remember - not the beginning of his career) he was a very good goalkeeper behind an incredible machine that had a good defence. He then had two years where he looked dodgy and people raised questions, and then the season before his injury he would world class, arguably the most in form keeper in the world at that point. Now he's getting on now, but I've always felt he's more of a "positioning" goalkeeper as opposed to a "reflex" keeper like Casillas, so hopefully his reading of the game won't decline.
He was.
Way to shit on your roots David, good luck playing for a team that won't have the patience for the errors the like we saw you make in your first year here.
I've thought he was off for at least 6 months.
He'll be a fecking huge loss. I honestly think he's the best goalkeeper in the world.
I just hope Dave is ready to be whistled at or booed the minute he's anything other than incredible. Will Atletico fans hate him now? I heard he was still well liked there even after he moved here. Can't see that happening when he moves to Real Madrid.
He'll be a fecking huge loss. I honestly think he's the best goalkeeper in the world.
I just hope Dave is ready to be whistled at or booed the minute he's anything other than incredible. Will Atletico fans hate him now? I heard he was still well liked there even after he moved here. Can't see that happening when he moves to Real Madrid.
This is all Edurne's fault.
Vidic was always being linked with Madrid, even when we were any good, e.g 08, 09.
Our top, top players, namely the ones among the top 3 in their position always seem to be touted for them alone. Their galactico policy fuels this of course, but until relatively recently when Barca and Bayern upped the anti, the only place to go from United was Madrid or down. It's always been Madrid. Even now with Bayern and Barca (and arguably a few others) above us in the attractiveness stakes, we rarely see our players linked with them. It's always Madrid. The history is there, it sells papers. Their president relies on the wanking it produces to get into power.
It's never 'Bayern to test United resolve over Vidic' or the like. They might nab our targets from under our nose occasionally, but it's only ever Madrid that are meant to prey on us.
Our top, top players, namely the ones among the top 3 in their position always seem to be touted for them alone. Their galactico policy fuels this of course, but until relatively recently when Barca and Bayern upped the anti, the only place to go from United was Madrid or down. It's always been Madrid. Even now with Bayern and Barca (and arguably a few others) above us in the attractiveness stakes, we rarely see our players linked with them. It's always Madrid. The history is there, it sells papers. Their president relies on the wanking it produces to get into power.
It's never 'Bayern to test United resolve over Vidic' or the like. They might nab our targets from under our nose occasionally, but it's only ever Madrid that are meant to prey on us.
It's pretty frustrating how we've spent the time in waiting and helping him develop his talents and once he has turned into a world class keeper he's leaving. We should really think twice about buying young latin American players in the future.
Honestly, I'm gutted. Partially because I supported him and wanted us to sign him going back to when he broke into the Atleti first team. I saw him make massive feck ups in his first two years and defended him to the hill because I knew he was top class.
I hope Valdes gets given a chance over the next game or two, he's a top keeper on form, and he genuinely wants to play for us unlike David.
I hope Valdes gets given a chance over the next game or two, he's a top keeper on form, and he genuinely wants to play for us unlike David.
If he does go, and doesn't even sign an extension to ensure us a fair fee, I wonder how it'll affect the club's relationship with Mendes - the man who will have handled the move?
Could there be a silver lining in all this - us limiting our relationship with Mendes?
Could there be a silver lining in all this - us limiting our relationship with Mendes?
That period left a mark. Now that he has not played a first-team match for more than a year, it's even more of a problem. Also, I hope people didn't forget that he's only 6'0" tall and that any goalkeeper of such height will get crucified in the Premier League.
I'm saying that De Gea really hasn't paid us back anywhere near as well as you think he has, and I'd like to think he'd come to the same conclusion on reflection.
I also completely disagree with your implication that players will form relationships with their managers, not their club itself. Ronaldo for example constantly talks about his love for Manchester United as a club and its fans, and saying he signed his extension solely because of his love for SAF is pure guesswork. I would expect Gerrard feels love for Liverpool, Terry for Chelsea, Buffon for Juventus etc, not just for the different managers they've had.
Of course De Gea is perfectly free to leave, I'd just like to think that he himself would like to do so in a deal that is beneficial to ourselves, the club without which he may not have the kind of career that is laid out in front of him.
When has this crook ever actually benefited us? Annoying how much power he has.
Why don't we get Navas in exchange? He's rotting away there, it's crazy. I also don't understand Madrid.I don't understand Madrid, Navas is perfect for them and is sitting on the bench.
Just as I wrote yesterday: they better start harassing Chelsea's top players this summer for a change.
Actually if we just look at Real Madrid's needs he was a TOP keeper before he came to us. We improved him in terms of high balls (but he is still not really good at that) and physical strength, but his reflexes, handling, shot stopping was brilliant even before he came to us and that's what Real Madrid needs.
Sad to hear that he's surely as good as gone today judging by Van Gaal's comments, but we should be grateful for his performances this season because If it wasn't for De Gea then I don't think we would have made back into the Champions League for next season.
He's not going on my blessing but I won't say a bad word about him, he's a Madrid man who probably wants to return to his hometown, can't be too harsh on him for that
He's not going on my blessing but I won't say a bad word about him, he's a Madrid man who probably wants to return to his hometown, can't be too harsh on him for that
Was getting annoyed with him too three pages ago and thought about this, was he Ronaldo's agent when we signed him? That would be the last time he actually did something that helped us. It's a disgrace, just like his mullet. Someone should call the police and report Mendes.
He would have never survived at Madrid making the mistakes he did for us in his early years. I just hope we get a good price for him but seeing as its the last year of his contract I fear we will be fleeced.
Should learn our lesson like Arsenal. If we're buying young, preference should be the top british talent. Spend big on the foreign finished articles (Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla etc). No point wasting our time for them to feck off at a loss.
@carvajal you got there in the end buddy
Yes, that is true, but the mistakes he made he wouldn't really have made at Madrid, because it's not a such big deal in Spain handling with crosses and these were the only real mistakes he made while playing for us.
At this point and with the typical official Marca cover I think it's done , although it was on track for months. Sorry for your sadness, even now you show a lot of understanding and respect (I wouldn´t). Regarding Madrid ... as you can imagine it is a brutal change of having a declining Iker and suddenly change for David. I am looking forward to troll Atletico fans in Marca
. I think He was fine in Manchester and since the beginning I think this is his main reason to leave:
No doubt they'll get lucky and Hazard will profess his love for Chelsea whilst referring to La Liga as 'the SPL with sun'.
I just meant the several attempts to get the picture posted!!At this point and with the typical official Marca cover I think it's done , although it was on track for months. Sorry for your sadness, even now you show a lot of understanding and respect (I wouldn´t). Regarding Madrid ... as you can imagine it is a brutal change of having a declining Iker and suddenly change for David. I am looking forward to troll Atletico fans in Marca
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