I remembered the signing actually. It wasn't out of the blue at all. He was sought after by many big clubs already. I remembered it was surrounded by some controversies as well.
Dayot Upamecano
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I remembered the signing actually. It wasn't out of the blue at all. He was sought after by many big clubs already. I remembered it was surrounded by some controversies as well.
No it was 1 of the other players in the article
Hehehehe, well if DDG wants to leave, we at least need to ensure we either get top whack for him (50+m) or get someone like Isco/Bale as part exchange.Very close, but I dont want to be right because it means Valdes becomes number 1
IIRC, we did yes. An ex City youth player?
el fidorah yeah, there's a thread about him in the reserves/youth forum.
Ta mate!
Reports in France that he changed agents and changed his mind at the last minute after everything had been agreed
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/sports/v...amecano-a-manchester-united-ia182b206n2640753
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/sports/v...amecano-a-manchester-united-ia182b206n2640753
I'm sure he'll live to regret that. Changing agents when you are 16 ffs.
I hate to be 'that guy' but it's El Fitouri.
At least you didn't go with 'fedora'.
Meh, i was close
Is there any truth in this, the only story I found was in the Express:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ress-sport-news+(Daily+Express+::+Sport+Feed)
Yeah it seems to be true
The little f*cker even made it into the Aaron Lemon thread.
Im not impressed
Im not impressed
Who knows. We might be back in for him this summer.
Pogba didn't have youtube clips for Le Havre either
And what has he achieved?
Pogba?
Thread should be moved now?
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http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...istrative-reasons-stopped-man-united-signing-
The situation surrounding Dayot Upamecano gets curiouser and curiouser. On Thursday morning we covered reports from France which suggested that the transfer had fallen down because of personal terms not being agreed in time. The fee had been settled, as La Voix Du Nord said, and Manchester United and Valenciennes had agreed a price of €450k which had the potential to rise to €900k. Given the bonuses included in that deal it certainly sounded like some in depth negotiating had gone on, this wasn't merely a deadline day brainwave.
France Football agree with the idea of a fee 'around a million Euros' being agreed but say something slightly different when explaining why the deal didn't go through. The French football magazine claim that 'administrative reasons' held the transfer back from being completed. They elaborate by explaining all conditions were met but the transfer simply didn't go through on time because the administrative side couldn't be sorted out.
It's also explained that 16 year old Upamecano received the grand tour of Manchester United facilities last Wednesday ahead of a proposed move to the club. Manchester United are certainly still interested and France Football, just like other outlets, say it's possible the transfer could be resurrected during the summer. However there is other interest, both from France's Ligue 1 and around Europe. The failed transfer will have no doubt shone a light on talented young defender Upamecano.
The situation surrounding Dayot Upamecano gets curiouser and curiouser. On Thursday morning we covered reports from France which suggested that the transfer had fallen down because of personal terms not being agreed in time. The fee had been settled, as La Voix Du Nord said, and Manchester United and Valenciennes had agreed a price of €450k which had the potential to rise to €900k. Given the bonuses included in that deal it certainly sounded like some in depth negotiating had gone on, this wasn't merely a deadline day brainwave.
France Football agree with the idea of a fee 'around a million Euros' being agreed but say something slightly different when explaining why the deal didn't go through. The French football magazine claim that 'administrative reasons' held the transfer back from being completed. They elaborate by explaining all conditions were met but the transfer simply didn't go through on time because the administrative side couldn't be sorted out.
It's also explained that 16 year old Upamecano received the grand tour of Manchester United facilities last Wednesday ahead of a proposed move to the club. Manchester United are certainly still interested and France Football, just like other outlets, say it's possible the transfer could be resurrected during the summer. However there is other interest, both from France's Ligue 1 and around Europe. The failed transfer will have no doubt shone a light on talented young defender Upamecano.
Being heavily linked with Arsenal today.
Just maybe he didn't want the move and his agent was forcing him so he changed, it happens.
Read somewhere else that he's on the verge of signing with Arsenal now. I'd imagine that if paperwork not going through was the only reason we didn't sign him, we'd have anyway completed the deal to have move to the club in the summer. No reason for talks to break down if paperwork was the only issue.
Paperwork issue is just what they told to the public I believe they demanded more money at the last minutes then the deal was off.
So he's off to the Gooners? Figures. We just don't seem to be as aggressive as our rivals when it comes to bringing in highly rated non-locals to the academy.
You mean like the young Belgian lads we picked up recently, or Januzaj, or Mensah, Macheda, Petrucci, Pique, Rossi, Pogba
Wouldn't be surprised if that story is bullshit.
Exactly. We do perfectly well. I wouldn't want to see us go too far and cram the academy full of so many foreign imports that the talented local lads get crowded out.
That's neither here nor there, mate, especially since some of your examples are more than a decade old. I'm fully aware of every single foreigner brought in to the academy for the past 15 years or so, that does nothing to change the fact that these days we're increasingly less feisty than certain other top clubs when it comes to these types of transfers. And with City going gung-ho on the local meat-market, we really shouldn't be losing out in a tug-of-war with Arsenal for someone we've clearly identified as an ideal addition, especially given last summer's fancy talk about the need to revamp our long-term recruitment policy. So there seems to be an acknowledgment of the problem, which is well and good, now let's see us (literally) put our money where our mouths are.
Here's hoping.
I doubt anyone would want to see that. That's not the point.
You don't have the slightest clue as to how the club youth system is operated, though, do you?
It's difficult to criticise something you don't know much about.
Meh, I disagree and I don't find too much wrong with how we identify the talents we have in our system and get them into the first team, we are still one of the better teams in the entire league at doing this, let alone us being a bigger club and continuing those traditions. We'll be especailly less reliant on imports now that the 90 minute rule has been scrapped as well.
Granted, I am but an outside observer, though I do take quite an interest in United's youth sides and as such I'm familiar with something as easily observable as our academy recruitment, as well as that of certain other clubs. Do I know the esoteric mechanisms behind that which I observe? Rarely, but then neither do you regarding the vast majority of topics discussed and undoubtedly criticized in your 7k posts. You see, that's just kinda how a supporters' forum works, bro.
Note that I'm talking about non-local recruitment, not foreign recruitment specifically. We'll still have to fight it out with the likes of Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Pool for some cnut from Cornwall. I don't disagree with the fact that we're alright for now. It's just that those around us are upping their games and I'd hate to see us left behind.
Chelsea's system of considerable recruitment, and extensive use of the loan systems to develop players and reduce wage costs, is looking pretty successful at the moment. I would be a little surprised if the other major clubs did not adopt this mindset more extensively. Signs that City are already doing so.
Is it a new trend though? Seems like we've regularly been that Jewish kid at Christmas when the really hyped continental teens are being snapped up. Even when we do get a gem like Januzaj or Pereira it hardly ever comes with the same fanfare you get with some other clubs new signings. I remember a massive palaver about Fran Merida joining Arsenal for example. Don't remember the same sort of hooplah over any foreign kid joining our academy. It's funny actually, the one kid who will probably go on to be the pick of the bunch - Pogba - seemed to almost slip under the radar. Or am I imagining that?
I think the special players have more eyes on them now, it's as simple as that. Pogba was definitely highly regarded before joining us, but we did snap him up fairly early.
I thought the pogba signing was a bit of a big deal? I think because he had captained France at the youth levels, and was very very highly rated, and partly because of the issues with le havre.
There was a bit of drama after we signed him but he was never on redcafe's radar beforehand and a handy rule of thumb for the hype over academy talents is whether there's a thread on here about them before they join us! We hardly ever seem to land the kids with that sort of profile. Not that I think it's a major problem. Might not even be an actual thing. Just seems that way.
Stop questioning our foreign policy.
The new trend would be City throwing money at every local kid in a pair cleats as well as a good number of foreigners, Chelsea operating in much the same way and even Liverpool getting in on the act with the likes of Sterling, Sinclair, Ibe and Ojo (several of whom we were reportedly interested in), a handful of Spaniards and change. It's a rough climate these days and it's getting rougher still.
Moved to the Football Forum.