David Moyes West Ham Manager | Gone (pedantic sod Sarni)
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Being a former United manager means jack, because he was fecking rubbish at it.
Put another way, it is without any doubt that Moyes did the exact opposite of what you expect (defensive orgination) for his three previous teams.
Lets wait and see then at the end of the season who was right
Even now, what on earth were West Ham thinking.
Did it not come up in the interview about the dreadful last 3 jobs?
So...United.... "post Fergie wasn't, everyone would have failed".
Yeah..but 7th? Under even the team you'd left?
Fergie left a dreadful team, that's why he got out, 7th was a heroic effort, given we couldn't get Ronaldo and Bale in.
Spain? Well, yeah it's foreign, done differently isn't it. Couldn't expect me to succeed there...
Sunderland? Everyone's failed there for 20 years, lack of investment...
Just how would these interviews go?!
Did it not come up in the interview about the dreadful last 3 jobs?
So...United.... "post Fergie wasn't, everyone would have failed".
Yeah..but 7th? Under even the team you'd left?
Fergie left a dreadful team, that's why he got out, 7th was a heroic effort, given we couldn't get Ronaldo and Bale in.
Spain? Well, yeah it's foreign, done differently isn't it. Couldn't expect me to succeed there...
Sunderland? Everyone's failed there for 20 years, lack of investment...
Just how would these interviews go?!
What would ”right” mean?Lets wait and see then at the end of the season who was right
I think Bilic would have finished around 15th fwiw.
Avoid relegation.
Watching his post-match interview was about as uplifting as watching a December weather forecast for Inverness
Yeah that’s not right at all. West Ham have a decent squad, Bilic wasn’t taking them down.
Before the game today they were 3rd bottom, a point behind WBA with a game in hand.
For Moyes to consider these 6 months a success, he needs to be finishing around 12th, 13th-16th = par. Anything less = shite.
What did he say? "We are in a serious relegation battle"?
Your argument isn't a strong one, never mind now or end of the season. Being United manager once does not give Moyes some magical powers of defensive organization.Lets wait and see then at the end of the season who was right
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What did he say? "We are in a serious relegation battle"?
West Ham manager David Moyes tells Sky Sports: "Most people would have expected something like that performance. I was disappointed we didn't do better, but we missed some really big chances. The better team won the game, but there was a chance to change the outcome of the game. We have to improve.
"I was only ever going to find out what the players were like by working with them and seeing them play today. When the opportunities didn't go for us, the confidence went away.
"We have to try to find a way of winning. The important thing is to be in the game, and when we lost the second goal, it became difficult."[\spoiler]
"I was only ever going to find out what the players were like by working with them and seeing them play today. When the opportunities didn't go for us, the confidence went away.
"We have to try to find a way of winning. The important thing is to be in the game, and when we lost the second goal, it became difficult."[\spoiler]
get the porridge heated up, gonna be laps tomorrow
I can't be bothered giving you a transcript (find a video, lazy sod!What did he say? "We are in a serious relegation battle"?
) but the overall message was familiar: everybody expected us to struggle today so it's not my fault that we did, we'll try to turn things around. Not exactly going to help cultivate any positivity around the club.Watching this ignorant tool and Brave Hart™ fail is a lot of fun.
Oh dear. So when can the Hammers fans expect improved performances? Nevermind, I won't complain if it takes a long while
Maybe there is some confusion over what I said, I say David Moyes teams have normally a better defensive organization than Bilic, not the fact he managed United gives him some magical powers to solve the problems.
Thanks, already saw what he said, by his normal standards he didn't blamed the players, much worse at Sunderland last season, hey but it's only the first defeatI can't be bothered giving you a transcript (find a video, lazy sod!
To be fair, he would've won the treble with that Bayern side too. Probably
Thanks, nothing bad by his normal standard.
Which ”teams” are you talking about?
I mean Bilic Croatia had better defensive organization than Bilic West Ham.
So what are these Moyes teams you mention and why didn’t he manage that at United, Sociedad or Sunderland?
Talking about low confidence is a bad sign cause I struggle to see Moyes turningr that part around. He is certainly not a guy to bring positivity.
good job Moyes! please bring them down to Championship...
Jupp Heynckes at the end of the 80's was winning titles with Bayern, managed to almost make the final of the former European Cup in 1990 vs Sacchi Milan, then went on to work in Spain, where he managed clubs like Bilbao, Tenerife, won the Champions League in 98 with Real Madrid, after many many years for Madrid fans.
Also went on to work in the worst Benfica of the 20th century, with a President who after leaving the club went to prison, did what he did when won everything with Bayern, and now is already solving the mess caused by Ancelotti, there is a World dividing Moyes from Heynckes.
He’ll finish 16th (Bilic probably would have done also) and proclaim himself their saviour, I’m certain of it.good job Moyes! please bring them down to Championship...
I am not Moyes fan, but I don't like Slaven Bilic at all, can I have a own opinion in a football forum?
I cannot wait for West Ham to go down with him as a manager. It would be the perfect "1 pierre 2 coups".
For sure, I just wanted to know what you were basing this Moyes defensive organisation off when the evidence from his last three jobs has been to the contrary.
Can't believe that someone thought I was serious? I even added white text to ensure that no one would. It was a comment on his "Fergie would've struggled with that squad" opinion that he, no doubt, still holds upon this day
Reverting to type very quickly - player revolt immenent
Sorry, I only had the chance to see the white text after replying, hey but everything is possible to read in this forum
Christ, I am not saying Moyes is some sort of Mourinho or Diego Simeone, just that his teams are more organized than Bilic.
If you ignore the back ground, then there is no difference in his post match interview to his ones in Sunderland and to an extent at United as well. "We had a couple of chances and if we had taken them then it could have been a different story. We are going to try a couple of more things in the next few days. We managed to get in a few crosses too but today the best team won. The performance was not good enough and we have to improve the performances. " That is the gist of what I saw.
Couldn't be happier he suffered defeat in his first game as manager.
At this stage, I wouldn't bet on Moyes seeing out the season as WHU boss. Remains to be seen how much they allow him to spend in January but I'm sure the players will love being run into the ground at training by Sergeant Major Pearce.
I think they might end up regretting not going for Allardyce or Pardew instead.
Couldn't stop laughing at the clip from his press conference when he said something along the lines of "West Ham are getting a good manager" while looking as though he had difficulty believing it himself.
I think they might end up regretting not going for Allardyce or Pardew instead.
Couldn't stop laughing at the clip from his press conference when he said something along the lines of "West Ham are getting a good manager" while looking as though he had difficulty believing it himself.
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I think the problem today, was that he simply didn't make it difficult enough for Watford, unfortunately.
West Ham fans better get used to this, this was essentially as Moyes a performance as it gets.
West Ham fans better get used to this, this was essentially as Moyes a performance as it gets.
It's that very old-school, thinking deep inside the box, go for what you know, mentality isn't it? Bet there are plenty of young, forward - thinking managers out there but, from the country that asked 'Arsene Who?' When Wenger first arrived, it's fairly commonplace. English clubs specialise in regurgitating the same tired old names, irrespective of their actual achievements. Then we act flabbergasted when someone like Pochettino or Silva comes along and does well.
Fantastic treble save from Gomez at end of first half.
West Ham weren’t great and Moyes was his typical dreary self post match. This won’t be pretty for Hammers fans but I guess survival will do and they should achieve that with a bit to spare.
West Ham weren’t great and Moyes was his typical dreary self post match. This won’t be pretty for Hammers fans but I guess survival will do and they should achieve that with a bit to spare.
It wasn’t bad for his first game in charge. You have to keep in mind he’s only got to train with the team maybe dos, tres, cuatro times.
David Moyes' West Ham reign began with a 2-0 defeat by upwardly mobile Watford at Vicarage Road.
Was there any ever doubt?
Was there any ever doubt?