Big Ben Foster
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Technically they're not sacking him, his contract is expiring. Same thing that happened last time he left West Ham.
Technically they're not sacking him, his contract is expiring. Same thing that happened last time he left West Ham.
I think he's proven at West Ham that he's better than Forest. They've only just stayed up. Though I do agree with you in a sense because when looking at the top half of the table, the only team who make sense for him are ironically, West Ham. He would definitely be deserving of one of the clubs who are currently 10th-14th though.They have the type of team that he usually excels with. Gritty midfield and defence, a hard working forward and pacy wingers.
I don't see any top half sides taking a punt anytime soon on him so Forest would be a good move for him to solidify them as a PL and mid table side.
I'm sure they'll come out with a statement once Lopetegui signs and it's made officialSurely a bit of courtesy wouldn't be amiss just to say he's going at the end of the season all the same
I think he's proven at West Ham that he's better than Forest. They've only just stayed up. Though I do agree with you in a sense because when looking at the top half of the table, the only team who make sense for him are ironically, West Ham. He would definitely be deserving of one of the clubs who are currently 10th-14th though.
Quite bizarre when you think about it. He's well deserving of a top half job based on what he has achieved at West Ham. Though it shows you the importance of style.He would but Bournemouth and Brighton wouldn't hire him and Wolves, Fulham and Palace I think would but only on a short term basis if they were in the shit. Unfortunately due to his age and profile there are barely any clubs that would know take him which is crazy considering how well he's done at West Ham.
Theyre bored of his football, it happens every time with Moyes and that group of old British managers he’s part of
I think they want to see if they can break into that next echelon, like Villa or Newcastle did. Their squad isn't really worse than thoseI don't get it, he's been performing about as you would expect, 45% odd win rate and even won the conference league. Nothing about Lopetegui suggest he'll be any better.
This. If they think Moyes has taken them as far as he can, there's nothing wrong with showing a bit of ambition and replacing him with someone who may be able to take them to the next level, even if it's an inherently risky move.I think they want to see if they can break into that next echelon, like Villa or Newcastle did. Their squad isn't really worse than those
This. If they think Moyes has taken them as far as he can, there's nothing wrong with showing a bit of ambition and replacing him with someone who may be able to take them to the next level, even if it's an inherently risky move.
But of course that idea is unfathomable to much of the Caf, since replacing a manager is perceived here to be the biggest sin a club can possibly commit.
Fair enough. I don't particularly rate Lopetegui either.I have no issues with them trying to get to the next level. You do expect a better name than Lopetegui though, otherwise it seems like you're swapping one ok manager with another and hoping for the best.
Mutual consent? If his contract is expiring, does his consent even really matter?
But he’s had no structure, injuries galore etcWest Ham sacking Moyes because they're finishing 9th and their football is boring.
Ah. So WHU doesn't want to renew him and he doesn't want to renew. And yet some people (like the talking heads on Sky) are acting as if West Ham have committed a grave injustice against Moyes?He does not wish to renew?
West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
Conference league, I know it's a European trophy, but I can't take it seriously. It used to be friendlies, they turned into a cup.West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
So if a manager wins a trophy, he should have a guaranteed job for life even if it becomes clear he's reached his ceiling?West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
But he’s had no structure, injuries galore etc
West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
Yeah maybe they just need to give him another 3-4 years. Is the whole squad 100% all his first choice picks yet?
West Ham will get relegated next season. What is it with some clubs and owners not bring happy with the success they have?
Moyes delivered their first european trophy in 43 years. Instead of backing him, they bring in a sporting director who differs in philosophy from moyes. Whether moyes was right or wrong with wanting a "british" core in the team, who knows. But the got you a trophy, at least support him for a good few seasons to see what he can build.
Reminds me of when Crystal Palace owners wanted to play more pleasing on the eye football and hired DeBoer. That lasted long didnt it?
wouldn't rule it out after they showed interest in Rangnick and ten Hag. Also Moyes trying to speak German in press conference would be great. Like he tried Spanish at Sociedad.
Would Moyes want that?Agreed
Honestly though, why can't more DoFs, instead of insisting on wholesale changes, just make changes to coaching staff? For example, Fergie bringing in Queiroz gave us a steel in Europe we did not have in prior years. Would it really be that hard to go to Moyes and recommend a young assistant who could bring in new ideas that can be implemented in a working framework?
More like it’s West Ham that has reached its ceiling! Moyes should go back and rebuild Everton. Given the state they are in Moyes is the ideal candidate. He works miracles on small budgets and would be in a supportive rather than an adversarial environment.So if a manager wins a trophy, he should have a guaranteed job for life even if it becomes clear he's reached his ceiling?
Would Moyes want that?
Conference league, I know it's a European trophy, but I can't take it seriously. It used to be friendlies, they turned into a cup.
Nearly 20 years behind SAF. Figures.He's old school. So probably not.
if we end up in that competition and win it, we wont be complaining.Conference league, I know it's a European trophy, but I can't take it seriously. It used to be friendlies, they turned into a cup.
Yeah, Lopetegui feels uninspiredI have no issues with them trying to get to the next level. You do expect a better name than Lopetegui though, otherwise it seems like you're swapping one ok manager with another and hoping for the best.