In Moyes example how can he reach his ceiling, if the club wont support him in the transfer market? We wont know now will we, whether they could have taken another step up...
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Exactly. Now instead they are just starting all over again.
I don't see why WHU should be content/grateful with their place in the pecking order.
They should have stuck with Moyes if they thought he was the right guy and could take them further. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with ambition. Especially given the current state of the PL behind City and Arsenal. I mean Aston Vills will qualify for CL next season, so why can't West Ham
They should have stuck with Moyes if they thought he was the right guy and could take them further. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with ambition. Especially given the current state of the PL behind City and Arsenal. I mean Aston Vills will qualify for CL next season, so why can't West Ham
Worth noting that the two teams with the worst Xg against in the whole league in 2024 are United and West Ham.
Because people think West Ham should know their place and have no ambition.
Bayern are calling.
Now that would be embarrassing. Imagine Real Madrid winning the conference league.
He'll have plenty of offers. He's proven himself to be very competent.
I would like to see him with an ambitious Championship club and lead them to promotion and be a bit of a club hero.
Maybe he'll have another go with a European club.
I've a soft spot for him cos he seems to get unnecessary criticism cos he's not sexy.
Even Everton fans criticised him and they've been battling relegation since he left.
They literally finished 5th ahead of united the season after he left.
They've been a solid midtable club up until the past 3 or seasons where they've been at the bottom. It's nothing to do with moyes leaving.
Dos veces en españa?
The second coming?
Good decision. But Julen Lopetegui, I'm not so sure.
We havent won a league titile in 11 years and a CL in even longer. We arent in the same class as likes of real madrid. Crystal Palace are making us look like a league 1 side.
A conference title would be a step up for the current shocking state we are in.
This isn't true.
His team finished fifth with Lukaku. What happened the following few seasons?
11th, 11th, 7th then 8th.
To say they've been battling relegation since he left is strictly untrue.
Yeah, Fergie is a right bastard for that.
It's a very strange narrative that has crept in.
Bad news for Luton as West Ham players will now want to give him proper send-off. Though West Ham would've probably won that game anyway.
Wasn't there rumours of his departure last summer? He could have left then and left on a high and looked for other opportunities. A year later he's sacked, the fans have been calling for his head for months and the narrative around him is very different.
It would've probably been better if he left last year but think his reputation is still mostly intact. Won them a trophy after decades, finished around 7-8th on the table multiple times etc. Someone mentioned Forest and I could see him going there if they survive and decide to part ways with Nuno. If not them, then some other PL team at some point during next season.
Also had a good EL run again this season, unlucky that he had to face the true invincibles there. But still in terms of performance that EL could probably be similarly rated as the ECL win the year before.
It's just lazy revisionism.
Fergie announced he was retiring in May, not January.
Strange world where West Ham replace their best manager since Johnny Lyall in a season where they finish top half and had a deep European run. This is West Ham and not Chelsea, yes?
All because some noisy fans want their team to play more like Potter’s Brighton. How good is the new guy in comparison? Will he bring the “stylish football” the fans crave?
All because some noisy fans want their team to play more like Potter’s Brighton. How good is the new guy in comparison? Will he bring the “stylish football” the fans crave?
Gollum carved out a nice managerial career for himself after his disastrous tenure at Old Trafford, which should never have been offered to him.
This is the funniest part the football he is associated with is pretty much the same kind of thing.
Are smaller clubs not allowed to have a competition they can actually win? They needed a competition like this as the big clubs have monopolised the other trophies and it is killing the game. European competition used to be quite entertainingly varied in terms of success.
It’s not just clubs like West Ham either. Major clubs from smaller leagues and even your Italian and French sides struggle to get any sort of success in continental tournaments.
Moyes still has defenders on here who would make even Ten Hags biggest cheerleaders cringe. They wouldn't let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
How dare West Ham fans want to watch decent football every week.
I think it’s more, he really didn’t make drastic changes and yet gets so much blame. It was LVG who really dismantled things.
Also, Kroos would have fixed a lot of the issues, so it seems Moyes knew what to do and never get the chance to implement the changes.
It is pretty clear that Woodward and the Glazers were the true problem.
They do not have the money or the prestige for what the fans want. They should consider supporting a different club with the necessary financial muscle for the modern game if that is what they want.
Fair enough but they literally went down this road before with Moyes and the stylish manager they replaced him with almost took them down and they had to bring Moyes back to save their bacon. With that recent history in mind it smacks of ingratitude and should serve as a warning to be careful what you wish for. It could work out for them and of course they can register their displeasure at the style of play but that does not alter the fact that Moyes has been treated pretty shabbily by the fans and the board.
Everything should always stay exactly the same.
This. About 4 teams can actually win the UCL and the winners of the Europa League are just big clubs who drop out of the UCL (or Sevilla). Europe needed this tournament because of how lopsided European football has become.
The fans want to watch decent football, they have enough money for that. I doubt they're expecting to win the league or even come top 4. So if you're going to finished 8th-12th you might as well try doing it while playing something other than Moyes ball.
Poor Dave.
He banned low fat chips, don't be telling me he didn't make drastic changes.