David De Gea

I'm convinced Mendes is peeced off with United for not selling him to Madrid hence why we haven't done any deals with his players since then.
Mendes seems to be no longer welcome in Madrid, either
 
Madrid eager to spend the Mbappe money this summer on DDG then :) I doubt these reports are true, transfer journalism is usually very poor. Anyways, we shouldn't sell him but if he wishes to go, nothing less than 100m Euros. Simple
 
If Madrid want him then fine. £100 Million or Bale/Kroos/Isco/Asenio in part exchange. Basically something Madrid will never agree to. If they value Morata on a sliding scale between £70-90 million then De Gea (quite clearly one of the top keepers in the world) is worth way more. More so even because replacing him isn't exactly easy either.

In short feck off Madrid.
 
£50m for a keeper is a WR Fee, you cant compare a fee for a keeper for a striker.
I would say £50m is pretty close to the mark, I would have no problem in Romero being No1 next season.
Pickford went for £30 mil and he's still young and not even England no.1. DDG is United and Spain number one, nothing less than £80 mil for him.
 
if and its big IF DDG wants to leave, we need to ask for a player in return. No way do we take the money. Already we are being asked to pay 15 million+ the actual price for any player we go for, why not ask for Bale/Morata/Kroos/Casemiro/Isco.
I know people will blab about swap deals, but we can always make it two seperate deals. If they agree to give us Bale/Morata/Kroos we call it evens, for others we ask them to pay the difference.
 
This might be a biased way of looking at things but I actually think de gea's grown goalkeeping game suits the PL more than than the Spanish league.

This league consistently is up and down, we can be attacking one minute and be on the defensive in the other. This suits de gea because he is consistently on his feet making multiple magical saves in a second.

For Madrid in the Spanish league, teams are hardly going to attack so he needs to command his box much more, be able to go from no work to a magical save can be much harder if you are not as consistently attacked upon.
 
He's 3/1 to be a Madrid player after the summer, I may still 100 on that just in case it happens
 
This might be a biased way of looking at things but I actually think de gea's grown goalkeeping game suits the PL more than than the Spanish league.

This league consistently is up and down, we can be attacking one minute and be on the defensive in the other. This suits de gea because he is consistently on his feet making multiple magical saves in a second.

For Madrid in the Spanish league, teams are hardly going to attack so he needs to command his box much more, be able to go from no work to a magical save can be much harder if you are not as consistently attacked upon.

Madrid conceded 12 more goals than us.
 
Why o why is everyone so easily manipulated by the media/agents here? Has all critical thought left the site? The CAF used to be filled with smart people. This emanated from the Sun for crying out loud

This is all agent/tabloid BS. Madrid is not buying a goalkeeper this offseason. They'v been conservative as feck in the transfer market. And Zidane/Perez are convinced they can have another run at a double with the current squad and want to keep them happy. Navas is immensely popular in the dressing room, and bringing in someone to replace him would rock the boat massively.
 
Selling De Gea would be dumb, I hope we don't entertain it. I don't care if people think Romero would do alright, De Gea is a top 2 player in his position.

Also, United needs to hang on to the best players we have. 4 years or lacklustre league finishes, although mitigated by cup wins, is not good enough.
 
I don't think that's because they were attacked more by the other team- we were and we had de gea= more saves. Just my opinion anyway.

They are not as good defensively organized as us. That means they are more vulnerable and would mean that their goalkeeper has to stay focused all the time.

I barely noticed DDG this season tbh.
 
Pickford went for £30 mil and he's still young and not even England no.1. DDG is United and Spain number one, nothing less than £80 mil for him.
80m should have been the price pre-Morata. The feckers were looking for around that much money for him. We should basically ask something absurd like 150m just to start negotiating. And then to say to them on the table 'feck off'!
 
They are not as good defensively organized as us. That means they are more vulnerable and would mean that their goalkeeper has to stay focused all the time.

I barely noticed DDG this season tbh.

I also notice that on the defence de gea stays on his line, our whole team except Ibrahimpvic last season dropped back. This isn't something I see with Madrid. The space between there goal keeper and defenders are much bigger, meaning there goal keeper would have to be more focused & also come off his line much more. This is what I think would effect his ability to save the way he does here In the PL.
 
I also notice that on the defence de gea stays on his line, our whole team except Ibrahimpvic last season dropped back. This isn't something I see with Madrid. The space between there goal keeper and defenders are much bigger, meaning there goal keeper would have to be more focused & also come off his line much more. This is what I think would effect his ability to save the way he does here In the PL.

You got a point there.
 
Still not sure why Dave would be all that fussed on going to Madrid. Especially with how little effort they appear to have put in over the last few years.

That said, given how important a goalkeeper can be, I think we should be looking at a £100m transfer.
 
Really? Its pretty well documented.

Nah I've heard the reasons (i.e. girlfriend etc). I just don't why on a personal level why I would so fussed on joining a club that appears (with its actions anyway) so apathetic about bringing me in.
 
Nah I've heard the reasons (i.e. girlfriend etc). I just don't why on a personal level why I would so fussed on joining a club that appears (with its actions anyway) so apathetic about bringing me in.

2 UCLs in 3 years...
 
Aye they've been overreaching a bit. Would seem quite likely it's not going to be on the cards for next year then wouldn't it? ;):lol:

Actually 3 in 4 years... Ha yes but at the moment as a player I would be thinking I am at a club who doesn't even look like they stand a chance winning it in the next 2/3 years.
Personally I think the reasons are more sporting than anything to do with his gf and the gf thing is just an excuse.

If we had maintained high levels I don't even think it would be considered.
 
Nah I've heard the reasons (i.e. girlfriend etc). I just don't why on a personal level why I would so fussed on joining a club that appears (with its actions anyway) so apathetic about bringing me in.
Not sure i would describe it as apathetic but its all very much open to interpretation I guess.

With Madrid it doesnt have to be about the club being desperate anyway, its as often about the players wanting to be there. Same with us to some extent, albeit with a slightly more modest class of player. Did Lukaku balk at joining us because we werent there serenading him under his window and telling everyone who would listen that he was the only one? No: we wanted him enough to bid, he wanted to come enough to sign. Itd be the same with De Gea and Madrid, if and when they ever get round to doing it.
 
If we end up selling for 50-60m given the way Madrid played things with Morata we will have completely capitulated. If he is begging the club to sell him to Madrid, we'll have to ask for a world class player in a part exchange or 100m.
 
Why?
We need world class players more than we need money. Do not sell for any amount unless he asks to leave.

Because he's given us plenty of time and he wants to leave. If he didn't want to leave, then of course, I'd want him to stay. But if he wants to leave, let him go. For me, we have good back ups. Jose seems to be very confident about Joel P as well.
 
If we end up selling for 50-60m given the way Madrid played things with Morata we will have completely capitulated. If he is begging the club to sell him to Madrid, we'll have to ask for a world class player in a part exchange or 100m.

De Gea has two years left on his contract, Morata has four. That has a huge impact in terms of prices.
 
Because he's given us plenty of time and he wants to leave. If he didn't want to leave, then of course, I'd want him to stay. But if he wants to leave, let him go. For me, we have good back ups. Jose seems to be very confident about Joel P as well.
That'd be uncharacteristically negligent of Mourinho, he's surely a man who doesnt want to leave things to chance. We'd be a single injury away from actually having Perreira playing, week in, week out, in the PL and the CL. I couldnt see him risking being reliant on a completely unproven, unpolished, 21 year old keeper. Has he any experience of regular first team football at any level? As in, in any of his loans has he actually been first choice for any extended period?

No way, if De Gea goes we get another keeper, even if it is as a number two behind Romero.
 
De Gea has two years left on his contract, Morata has four. That has a huge impact in terms of prices.

With an option of another year. He's one of the best if not the best in his position in the world. Morata hasn't got a proper look in at Real. As long as you've got 2-3 years to work with, the price shouldn't really come down. A year, sure, a year and a half, possibly. But we've got him tied down for his prime.
 
That'd be uncharacteristically negligent of Mourinho, he's surely a man who doesnt want to leave things to chance. We'd be a single injury away from actually having Perreira playing, week in, week out, in the PL and the CL. I couldnt see him risking being reliant on a completely unproven, unpolished, 21 year old keeper. Has he any experience of regular first team football at any level? As in, in any of his loans has he actually been first choice for any extended period?

No way, if De Gea goes we get another keeper, even if it is as a number two behind Romero.

He played in Portugal and by all accounts, he did very well there. Yes, in an ideal world, we'd bring in a keeper with lots of experience but we've done that before and it has not always worked.

Also, when will Joel by ready for us? We will never know the answer to that question, until he actually plays.
 
Ok, 2 unpopular opinions...

1. If DDG goes this Summer, those expecting 100m deals are gonna be disappointed - I'd imagine 60-70m, which would be double the current World record fee for a goalkeeper.

2. If it meant getting Bale in return, I'd do a straight swap. I think with us now being a Mourinho team, the focus is much more on defense rather than goalkeeping heroics.

Mourinho doesn't like to even concede chances, and feeling the need to have a highlight reel keeper to him probably almost bothers him.

I thought playing Romero in the Europa final was interesting, because, yeah he'd played the whole campaign, but c'mon, it was a fecking important match, failure meant NO CL, and a failure of a season for Mourinho. Yet he stuck with him...

For me, that said a lot.