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David De Gea
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Would be nice with one transfer window without de Gea linked back to F.C Circus.
So tired of this!
We need to get Morata so we have 2 players getting linked back to them every transfer window.
So tired of this!
We need to get Morata so we have 2 players getting linked back to them every transfer window.
After the valuations they put on their players, a minimum of £100m or GTFO.
We seem to be the ones briefing this.
Looks like we are trying to rub this in their faces.
Perez was at pains to stress they were no longer interested.
Looks like we are saying "you're interested, we're just not selling".
In any case I'm convinced he'll be here in September.
Looks like we are trying to rub this in their faces.
Perez was at pains to stress they were no longer interested.
Looks like we are saying "you're interested, we're just not selling".
In any case I'm convinced he'll be here in September.
After the whole Morata saga, they can do one. Demanding a hefty chunk for a squad player, and then making a derisive bid for de Gea? Hope the Bernabeu collapses on Perez's nutsack.
My sentiments exactly mate.
In today's market I genuinely don't think Madrid can afford him. With the prices some players are going for, De Gea is now well, well over 100M and I can't see them spending that if they also want Mbappe within the next couple of transfer windows....
Are people all so convinced Madrid messed us around over Morata? I kept reading that, while they did set the valuation above what we said we were willing to pay (and below what we paid for Lukaku), they were open to getting the deal done, and that it was us who seemed to be playing games, not putting in an official bid, putting a lot of stuff out through the media but not actually approaching the club. And then, out of the blue, signing Lukaku.
So all this "after what they did to us with Morata" stuff seems a little misplaced. But then maybe Ive been reading the wrong reports.
Im not too concerned about this. The later it gets in the window the less chance we have to replace him and the less likely we are to let him go. I dont believe Mourinho would be willing to go into the season with only Romero and Perreira.
I also cant see us letting De Gea go to Madrid without getting something we really want in return. Whether that's Morata, Bale or someone else. Swap deals dont usually happen but then we saw it with Everton. Its been very hard to get deals done, it seems, this summer, and it might be that part exchanges help grease the wheels to push deals through. Its the only way we are going to get a marquee signing off them, and its the only way theyre going to get De Gea off us.
But yeah, all that being said I really dont see it happening.
So all this "after what they did to us with Morata" stuff seems a little misplaced. But then maybe Ive been reading the wrong reports.
Im not too concerned about this. The later it gets in the window the less chance we have to replace him and the less likely we are to let him go. I dont believe Mourinho would be willing to go into the season with only Romero and Perreira.
I also cant see us letting De Gea go to Madrid without getting something we really want in return. Whether that's Morata, Bale or someone else. Swap deals dont usually happen but then we saw it with Everton. Its been very hard to get deals done, it seems, this summer, and it might be that part exchanges help grease the wheels to push deals through. Its the only way we are going to get a marquee signing off them, and its the only way theyre going to get De Gea off us.
But yeah, all that being said I really dont see it happening.
But if they cause some serious unrest to De Gea himself, then it puts us in a tough position. He's already missed some games due to not being mentally ready to play at the start of 15/16. Madrid can easily make that happen again.
We can refuse to sell, but players have a lot of power, and we don't want a player here who simply doesn't want to be here. Hard to say if that's the case with him, because he doesn't come out and kill the rumours, nor does it appear that his party are trying to force anything.
It would be gutting to lose him, and he is impossible to replace like-for-like in terms of ability - no matter how much better we may be at the back - but we also don't want to go through this every single summer.
Mostly, I'd love for him to come out and say "Nah, feck off Madrid", but a part of me would just like it over with. If he doesn't go this summer, then it'll be the same dancing around next summer, and the summer after. It's tiresome.
I really don't think the club was the source of anything the press wrote relating to our pursuit of Morata, other than that we'd dropped the interest and were going for Lukaku instead.
And it's not so much that Madrid fecked us over, more that they asked a ridiculous amount for a player that wanted to leave, and that hey seemed completely unwilling to compromise. If they, in light of that, rock up with a £50m bid for de Gea, it should be considered an insult, and Ed should ring Perez and tell him to do one.
That wasn't de Gea not being ready, that was just van Gaal fearing he wasn't . I have no doubt that de Gea would have been up to his usual standard, had he played those games.
Anything under 150m for a 26 year old goalkeeper who is within the Messi/Ronaldo tier of goalkeeping is derisory.
Isco, Asensio and Marcelo + £50m and I might consider it. Alternatively those £50m could be Ronaldo if they don't have the cash.
Agree. I'm really not a fan of Bale and would not be a happy bunny if that happened.
The way I would see this is that every selling club has a right to set a price for their player. We might not agree with the price they set on Morata, hence we didnt pay it and shopped elsewhere. No harm done. Similarly, if they make us an offer for De Gea that doesnt meet our valuation then we dont sell to them, same thing. In which case neither club is messing the other one around. But of course there could be plenty more to this that we dont know about, which could constitute some level of shenanigans.
I just find it strange that the narrative still seems to be they messed us about, like I said I must have read different reports because what I read seemed to speculate we were the ones playing games (which I was delighted about, as it happens.) In fact on the day the Lukaku news broke the line seemed to be, "ha ha, nice one Woody, you beat them at their own game, the Morata thing was a smokescreen the whole time." Somehow that has morphed into "they messed us about so we went for Lukaku instead."
I'd assume he would be too. But it's becoming rather common. It's happening right now with Sigurdsson. We've seen it before with Modric, Berbatov and a few others. If Madrid make serious moves for De Gea and unsettle him, then it puts pressure on the club.
He's in a tough situation though. I don't think he would refuse a move to Madrid, but he seems to have a connection with United that he wouldn't force his way out. It's probably why this seems to rumble on forever.
Well according to Balage we were but thinking about it this is just Woodward doing his thing.
If this indeed is a Woody briefing, then we might be trying this route to somehow get Bale. I won't mind that at all.
Madrid can feck right off, I don't think there's a club I despise more than these fecks. If they want De Gea they will have to pay a world record fee cash only, don't want any of their reject mercenaries.
It didn't seem like they were messing us about, no, they were just being very stubborn with regards to their asking price, as is their right. It was a player they neither wanted nor needed to sell, and it didn't seem like Morata, despite wishing to move, wanted to force it.
The reason a potential £50m bid for de Gea annoys me, is that after that whole saga, even they know how incredibly insulting it would be for them to make a derisive bid like that for one of, if not the best, goalkeeper in the world. Not only did they make signing a squad player off of them needlessly hard, they're now apparently trying to lowball us, most likely hoping to unsettle de Gea. Which is why I think Woody should tell Perez to do one.
They wanted us to meet their valuation of a player they were open to selling, so they should at least come in with an offer that's likely to make us consider selling a player they know we're not at all open to selling. Instead, they're rumored to do the bidding equivalent of leaving a flaming bag of shit on our doorstep.
If the bid materializes, I hope de Gea takes note that the club that valued a squad player who wanted out, and that they were open to selling, at €90m, while apparently only valuing him, a player who's club is not interested in selling, at €50m.
I think De Gea to Real will happen at some point, just a matter of when.
Each year his contract runs down takes value off, I believe its currently 2 years with an option of a third.
Unless he declares his interest to stay publicy, OR signs a new longer term deal this won't go away.
The plus is the market has boomed and we really can command a massive fee, would have to be world record for a keeper for sure.
While he is world class, I do think in Romero we wouldn't need to rush signing a replacement. Plus a replacement would also be a crazy fee
Each year his contract runs down takes value off, I believe its currently 2 years with an option of a third.
Unless he declares his interest to stay publicy, OR signs a new longer term deal this won't go away.
The plus is the market has boomed and we really can command a massive fee, would have to be world record for a keeper for sure.
While he is world class, I do think in Romero we wouldn't need to rush signing a replacement. Plus a replacement would also be a crazy fee
Time for a shiny new contract.
Why did we brief this?
Some on here think that it was a ploy to say that we got one over Madrid again when De Gea stays. But imo De Gea also wants to join Madrid but won't push for a move, which is a similar but opposite situation to Morata's. So we need to take the same stance as Madrid took with Morata, in that we ask for a really high fee (£100m+) and if Madrid really want him, then they pay. Otherwise, we keep him.
Lets have that £100 million then Perez. I value him a lot more than Morata.
Mate, I know its probably just a figure of speech but in case its not, my advice to you FWIW is dont let yourself be annoyed by this because a) it probably wont happen anyway, I mean after all, how many things have the newspapers been right about this summer? Even when they all say the same thing. And b) even if they do make a bid that is nowhere near acceptable there is no reason to believe DDG is going to let it affect him, he doesnt appear to be pushing to leave and seems to know the score. I reckon Woodward and Mourinho will have explained the situation to him, which was apparently that if they wanted to sign him they had to pay up, and if they did that we would let him go. He will know what his value realistically is and he will also have read reports Madrid were no longer interested. So I dont think he will feel the club has done the wrong thing by him if, a month from now, we reject an offer because we havent lined up a replacement for him and the amount offered wouldnt cover the cost of it even if we had.
Its all just a load of bollocks, basically, not worth getting remotely annoyed about.
Let DDG go. Great keeper but we have Romero too, who has not let us down. Grab the money and let's get some players in.
Give him a new contract and still get some players in.
Why?
We need world class players more than we need money. Do not sell for any amount unless he asks to leave.
I would say that his career thus far would suggest that, given enough time and chances, he will let us down.
Bale and £70 million or Casemiro and £100 for De Gea. Nothing less.
I hope it's just so Madrid bid 50M and we brief the press we rejected it and want 100M.
Let's be a bit more realistic; Marcelo, Casemiro, Bale, Isco + £75m should be an okay deal.
Don't forget the last 3 CL trophies, too!
Can't see either club doing business with each other now until either Woodward or Perez moves on.
If there is any deal for DDG i think we will most certainly ask for Bale in exchange.
This is all Mendes...We're not even after another goalkeeper.
We're not even after another goalkeeper.
I'm convinced Mendes is peeced off with United for not selling him to Madrid hence why we haven't done any deals with his players since then.
Starting to feel like we are inviting a bid.
I can understand Dave wanting to leave and maybe now is the best time to get the maximum amount of money.
I much prefer he stays and help us win our first post SAF league title
I can understand Dave wanting to leave and maybe now is the best time to get the maximum amount of money.
I much prefer he stays and help us win our first post SAF league title
Would make Mendes and Mourinho's relationship awkward
De Gea is the best player in the World for his position, if Real Madrid want him then I'd say opening bids have to be comparable to their valuation of Morata.
If they see a bench warmer as worth £80 Million, then surely Dea Gea as World number one cannot be less?
Of course, if the player wants to leave, there is not much point in trying to force him to stay, but I get the feeling that with Mourinho involved, United won't be rolled over easily, and we'd squeeze the best possible deal for United.
If they see a bench warmer as worth £80 Million, then surely Dea Gea as World number one cannot be less?
Of course, if the player wants to leave, there is not much point in trying to force him to stay, but I get the feeling that with Mourinho involved, United won't be rolled over easily, and we'd squeeze the best possible deal for United.