David De Gea

Varun said:
It's not "technicality" to compare the wages of 2 footballers, one pre tax and one after tax. Don't be obtuse. Again, de Gea's 200k/week is pre tax, Kroos's 165k is post tax. Also, I already corrected myself and said barca are top. So you can take the bolding nonsense elsewhere. And as, I'm done with this, if you believe wages will stop Real from taking de Gea, power to you.

We're in 2017.

I'm actually amazed at people refusing to Google something so simple rather than making post after post with such conviction about something they're not updated/aware about.
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Do you have a link that says De Gea's 200k wage is pre-tax? Or we should believe you because you know how to use the word "obtuse"?

I will take the bolding nonsense elsewhere when you stop being hypocritical on the forum. Also, yeah let's see if RM match De Gea's wages.
 
Subho611 said:
If you are getting to the technicalities and it is more important to prove others wrong than take a discussion forward then you are WRONG too. You claimed that RM were the "comfortably" highest wage spenders when in reality it is Barca.

Also, both DDGs and Kroos wages are post tax. DDG currently earns 200k post tax and Kroos is on 165k post tax so it is a big change for RM if suddenly the GK becomes the highest paid after Ronaldo and Bale. It is definitely not a normal thing for sure. They definitely would want him desperately if they want to break that structure for him and nothing we have seen till now confirms that.
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http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/37632759
Kroos earns £350k after tax.
 
De Gea has not been at his very best this season. With Madrid always looking for the hottest new thing in the market, they might go for someone else like Courtois or Donnarumma as well. All is not lost yet boys.
 
abhayselvan said:
De Gea has not been at his very best this season. With Madrid always looking for the hottest new thing in the market, they might go for someone else like Courtois or Donnarumma as well. All is not lost yet boys.
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Huh? He's Spanish, he's the Spanish NT keeper, his low is very high, he's young. Why would courtois leave? Donnarumma is a possibility, but still...
 
Zii said:
If he goes to Madrid I hope he does shite and gets bood and hates it. I'm bitter like that, but atleast I'm honest. It's not all the best like people say, I hope it goes to shit, if you don't want to play for United then Tara
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Well, some RM fans still boo or whistle at Ronaldo, so it's not impossible.
 
prtk0811 said:
As if silva's herrera's mata's and whole lots of other nationals dont have family's and girlfriends. Dont buy these arguments one bit.
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All the players you mentioned above move outside Spain chasing a better pay...Don't get me wrong, if any of the players you said being offered by Real Madrid and Barca, there will be a different story...

Playing for best clubs in your country may have values higher rather than money. Pride among your family and friends, recognizable environment, same language, etc...

And why did Real and Barca not offer those players ?

1. May be because they are not good enough in term of technical ability and positional need. E.g : Between Silva and Villa, Barca picked Villa...because they had better midfielders at that time than Silva
2. May be because they are not marketable enough in term of commercial...Spain big clubs a little bit different with EPL clubs, they rely so much to Fan-based...
3. They player themselves perhaps, don't want to be only supporting casts if playing for Barca or Real.


DDG case is different with CR7.

CR7, despite of his dream to play for RM, also chasing a higher paid...I believe at the beginning that's the reason...
However, i believe that for CR7, who always fight for being no.1, time to time, he has found lots of challenges playing in La Liga with Real Madrid...Not just for being the Champion in the La Liga, but to be the best of the best in the world every year, in every aspects, broken all records existing...which sadly, he may not be able to achieve while in Man Utd.
I believe that CR7 also get a nice wage increase every new contract and perhaps he is being specialized/golden boy at Madrid. But with his contributions and his commercial value, the amount is returned to the club, with good margin too.

DDG, despite playing with one of the richest club in the world, with one of the greatest Manager ever in Fergie, at very homey city of Manchester, and with perhaps highest paycheck for the GK, still missing great achievements in his career. While, he is labelled one of the World Best Keeper individually, in term of Club Achievement, he only had a few. Perhaps, like Maslow Theory said, DDG needs self actualization. And tittles with the clubs is one of it. And I agree with some posters here that said about him wanting to start a family. He is human after all, he has his Girlfriend, both of them loyal to each other despite of LDR, so if he wants to start a family with her there's no wrong about it.


As long as we have the good fees, no need to be hate for his decision, if truth that he wants to leave.
DDG has given his best while playing here....millions of fans are the witnesses.
 
Zii said:
If he goes to Madrid I hope he does shite and gets bood and hates it. I'm bitter like that, but atleast I'm honest. It's not all the best like people say, I hope it goes to shit, if you don't want to play for United then Tara
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Yeah I'm pretty much the same, I'd be livid with him if he left and wouldn't mind at all when the Bernabeu turns on hm
 
Acole9 said:
I would hope so, especially as he's got two years left on his contract. We're not under pressure to sell like we were two years ago.
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Three years left. It was four with option of a fifth year. I just have trouble seeing Real paying what we'd likely demand.
 
ThomasEmil said:
Huh? He's Spanish, he's the Spanish NT keeper, his low is very high, he's young. Why would courtois leave? Donnarumma is a possibility, but still...
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Yeah, I know all that but just wishful thinking on my part. I don't want us to lose our best players to Madrid while we feed off their bench scrap.
 
I've gone through all the stages of grief over this one long ago. I'm at acceptance now. If he's here next season it's a bonus.
 
Pexbo said:
I've gone through all the stages of grief over this one long ago. I'm at acceptance now. If he's here next season it's a bonus.
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I expected him to go around the time of fax machine gate and even though he signed the new deal you knew he would go at some point. I think in all honesty Dave was promised to be let go this Summer if he agreed to the new deal.
 
Don't want to be losing our best players but he did the right thing by the club in signing a new contract which means we can demand a good fee for him. If he wants to go, as long as we get top money or use him to get a player we need, I would not be bitter. Romero is a ready made replacement too so no panic to replace him if he goes.
 
Zii said:
If he goes to Madrid I hope he does shite and gets bood and hates it. I'm bitter like that, but atleast I'm honest. It's not all the best like people say, I hope it goes to shit, if you don't want to play for United then Tara
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Did you think that about every departure?
 
We don't need the money. He's on a long contract. If Madrid want him, we should be prepared to play hardball and shake them for every last penny they can afford or tell them to go do one. £80m+ if he's that important to them. I've had enough of Real getting the better of every deal we do with them.
 
jymufc20 said:
Bored of all this already if your going just go, if your staying come out and say it.
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That wouldn't work. If he says he is staying, people won't believe it. Other players have said they are staying only to leave a month or two later. If players had to say they are staying after every rumour, they'd be doing it non-stop! Easiest thing for them is to ignore the rumours.
 
Zii said:
If he goes to Madrid I hope he does shite and gets bood and hates it. I'm bitter like that, but atleast I'm honest. It's not all the best like people say, I hope it goes to shit, if you don't want to play for United then Tara
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Same here.
 
Pexbo said:
I've gone through all the stages of grief over this one long ago. I'm at acceptance now. If he's here next season it's a bonus.
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My feelings exactly. Huge bonus if here next season but I can't bring myself to be bitter or upset about it if he moves. He's been phenomenal for us the last 3/4 years so if he wants to move so be it.
 
What makes her so fecking special?
i mean, he must be the only professional footballer that didn't bring his missus with him when he moved abroad to a bigger club.
She sings, doesn't she?
As far as i know, it is possible to sing in Manchester too.
I'm sure he earns enough to keep her happy even without a job.... probably her family and their friends aswell.

Tired of reading that the reason is that he wants to start a family.
I also thought that him playing for Athletico before us, made him hate Real.

I find this all very weird.
 
Grylte said:
What makes her so fecking special?
i mean, he must be the only professional footballer that didn't bring his missus with him when he moved abroad to a bigger club.
She sings, doesn't she?
As far as i know, it is possible to sing in Manchester too.
I'm sure he earns enough to keep her happy even without a job.... probably her family and their friends aswell.

Tired of reading that the reason is that he wants to start a family.
I also thought that him playing for Athletico before us, made him hate Real.

I find this all very weird.
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The absolute state of this.
 
Grylte said:
What makes her so fecking special?
i mean, he must be the only professional footballer that didn't bring his missus with him when he moved abroad to a bigger club.
She sings, doesn't she?
As far as i know, it is possible to sing in Manchester too.
I'm sure he earns enough to keep her happy even without a job.... probably her family and their friends aswell.

Tired of reading that the reason is that he wants to start a family.
I also thought that him playing for Athletico before us, made him hate Real.

I find this all very weird.
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I guess it's like that one mate who always ditches the boys for his missus
 
I'm getting tired of this saga. Sell him and bring someone that doesn't want to leave every summer. This is a good time to replace him, as we are not very reliant on our GK with our strong defense.

Obviously, we can't get anyone at his level, but we can get someone who in time can be one of the best. Pump some more money into fat Mino and get Donnarumma or something.
 
Subho611 said:
Do you have a link that says De Gea's 200k wage is pre-tax? Or we should believe you because you know how to use the word "obtuse"?

I will take the bolding nonsense elsewhere when you stop being hypocritical on the forum. Also, yeah let's see if RM match De Gea's wages.
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I am only a fan, not an accountant for United. Mostly in UK press, they use to big up the numbers to show footballers earn more. You will never hear the net salary, that wont make good headline. Only the gross income before tax. 200k for De Gea will be before pre-tax deductions not after. If it is after tax, he might have been the highest paid footballer in PL. Simply that's not the case.

Real can definitely afford him. They pay most than all the clubs. Their TV revenue was twice higher than PL clubs till last 2 years. That is the main reason behind Ronaldo transfer and them getting the players they want. Now PL clubs can match Real and Barca TV revenue and can afford to pay the players same wage and transfer fees. Taking a wage cut is a fantasy created by Spanish journalists to say that he is longing for return to spain and he will do everything to play for Madrid.
 
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Zii said:
If he goes to Madrid I hope he does shite and gets bood and hates it. I'm bitter like that, but atleast I'm honest. It's not all the best like people say, I hope it goes to shit, if you don't want to play for United then Tara
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:lol: As you say, at least your honest.
 
As a Liverpool fan I should be really happy if De Get leaves Man Utd but I am sick and tired of Madrid Barca Bayern hoovering up any player they want because of who they are. I would really applaud a player who is happy where he is and tells the to do a runner when they come calling. Half a dozen serious games a year in the league and whatever they have in the Champions league. Hardly sounds like much of a challenge does it. La Liga will never supersede the Premier League purely because of the lack of overall challengers for the title. Every week Madrid 5 or 6 Barca 5 or 6 Must get boring as hell
 
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I really hope he doesn't come to Madrid :/ Please Jose refuse all offers! We need another broken fax machine lol
 
If Pickford can fetch 20-30m, Dave should fetch 100m.

If we need to spend +40m on a decent replacement, why would we sell for 60m and think it's a good deal?

Of course we won't get 100m, but if we end up selling to that mob, the least we can do is have both parties walk away frustrated.
 
johnamiri said:
As a Liverpool fan I should be really happy if De Get leaves Man Utd but I am sick and tired of Madrid Barca Bayern hoovering up any player they want because of who they are. I would really applaud a player who is happy where he is and tells the to do a runner when they come calling. Half a dozen serious games a year in the league and whatever they have in the Champions league. Hardly sounds like much of a challenge does it. La Liga will never supersede the Premier League purely because of the lack of overall challengers for the title. Every week Madrid 5 or 6 Barca 5 or 6 Must get boring as hell
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I agree with you, other than the weather i don't see what the big deal is. Take gareth bale for instance what was his motive for going there.
 
I think we'll be completely fine without him if he leaves but at the same time I'm openly bitter about him leaving so I hope he fails miserably for them. Don't see why I should want a player who saw us as not good enough to succeed anywhere else
 
I currently love our Dave but he leaves against the will of the club and the fans then feck him.
 
If De Gea does really leave and say if we get Oblak to replace him, is Oblak actually better than De Gea or are they on a similar level? I'm also concerned if its just Simeone's Atletico system that makes him look better than he actually is. Granted, I don't watch much of him so I don't know. Would love to hear some insights from the La Liga fans.
 
MullerUtd said:
If De Gea does really leave and say if we get Oblak to replace him, is Oblak actually better than De Gea or are they on a similar level? I'm also concerned if its just Simeone's Atletico system that makes him look better than he actually is. Granted, I don't watch much of him so I don't know. Would love to hear some insights from the La Liga fans.
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There's something nice about having the outright best keeper in the league in De Gea, if we replace him with Oblak I'd say he'd come in and would be a par with Courtois and Lloris
 
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