This would be main concern, too. If we go ahead with Romero, I can seriously see a situation where say, midway through the season, it becomes clear we've made a mistake. He's a good keeper but not the quality needed to be a firm #1 for one of the biggest teams in the world. Plus, the back-up (should we need to drop him, if he isn't of the standard we need) would likely then be a young, raw youth keeper who isn't ready to step up.
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This would be main concern, too. If we go ahead with Romero, I can seriously see a situation where say, midway through the season, it becomes clear we've made a mistake. He's a good keeper but not the quality needed to be a firm #1 for one of the biggest teams in the world. Plus, the back-up (should we need to drop him, if he isn't of the standard we need) would likely then be a young, raw youth keeper who isn't ready to step up.
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Completely agree. I would hate Romero to have a great start then unravel a month into the season. He's got a mistake or two in him. Jose is a smart man hopefully he has identified this.
He has been at the same place for 6 years?
Guess he meant that mentally he was already in Real and the next day he had to re-start the season as a United player? Something could have been lost in translation, too.
We (ie. the board, which includes SAF) would have learned from the Schmeichel to VDS era. I'm sure Barthez / Tiabi were properly evaluated by our scouts / SAF etc but for some reason didn't pay off, whilst in hindsite we should have gone all guns blazing for the top keepers from other top clubs.
Lloris / Donnarumma are top of my list and we need to have one of them in the bag before DDG goes
Lloris / Donnarumma are top of my list and we need to have one of them in the bag before DDG goes
Same can be said for just about any player. Nobody is a 'sure thing'. Even a player who has shined elsewhere, there is no guarantee it will continue in a different setting. Romero has at least been here and done that. Not saying he's at DDG's level, just that him as an option is worth a look.
Romero is absolutely nowhere near good enough to start for us, good back up, nothing more.
That's your opinion. I disagree. If he were 'nowhere near good enough' he wouldn't even be on the squad. He's constantly an injury to DDG away from being our #1. I doubt the manager and other coaches see it as such a huge drop off, and I haven't seen it that way on the pitch either. Granted, I realize a whole PL season is something different and could expose him (as with anyone), I just don't agree with your assessment.
Careful what you wish for.
Yes, he was great under LVG.
Well, my 'wish' is that De Gea stays on and retires wearing our badge, but right now nobody knows.
Wrong. He has 2 years left on his contract with option to extend for one more year. So that's 3.
It's just some Spanish paper making up strong and this is not even the first time.
So Madrid will convince ManUtd to accept the same offer they made in 2015?
If LVG was still here, we'd probably bite of Madrid's hand.
But with Jose at the helm, he'd rather keep the player than sell him for a bargain basement price.
Sid Lowe for the Guardian, saying this will not happen. Maybe, both Madrid and player feel this ship has sailed.
And Real going for Courtois instead. This is going in circles.
Don't get that part. Chelsea will demand as much for Courtois, as we would for Dave.
Based on what? I reckon you don't actually know that he's not good enough and you're guessing he isn't because he is our back-up keeper who didn't come for a big transfer fee.
He has proven otherwise during his appearances.
FFS, watch him play, I reckon you've seen him keep a clean sheet against Wigan and thought he was good enough to replace DDG.
No, I'm not saying he is or isn't good enough. I just don't understand why you're saying he isn't good enough based on a guess.
If I remember correctly he was reported to have been extremely homesick when he came to Manchester. They said he was crying etc, as a young lad who has never been away from his homeland. I think that may have been what he meant, that once he gets comfortable somewhere, he struggles to move away?
That's how I interpreted it anyway, could be wrong!
Another 20 pages of "who will replace De Gea for us" then.
I would like him to stay. The club stuck by him when he was making mistakes and he repaid that trust in world class fashion. But if a transfer was to be made we must sell him for a crazy amount of money (45 mil £ min) or attempt to lure Bale somehow (not realistic I know). Anything else is a bad deal and I don't see a single player in that Madrid side improving us the way Dave would improve them.
He also stuck by us when we were going from manager to manager, we were patient with him and he repaid us by saving us a lot of points, becoming world class and being patient, if he feels he needs to go, he has every right and doesn't owe us a thing.
He has mistakes in him, we saw it last season when he got a good run of games, there's a shaky feeling about him too. Can not deny he would make fantastic saves but he isn't going to be replacing a top 3 goalkeeper in the world, let's honestly be real. Good enough to maybe be a one season quick fix to acquire our actual target but definitely not the number 1 in a title winning side which I presume is where we want to be next season. All of what I'm saying is based on his performances for Manchester United.
Isn't LVG the one who blocked the trf and made DDG stay?
I am more worried with Jose here since he and DDG share the same agent.
Much like Herrera then?
I don't feel that way about Herrera so nope.
I take it you never watched Schmeichel play for United ? An alarming percentage of the goals he actually conceded were horrendous errors. Each season he would have a spell of 2 or 3 games in which any shot on target would find the net. Yet he was probably the best keeper United have ever had due to the incredible saves he made and the extent to which he frightened the opposition. I rate him as the 3rd best United player I've ever seen, behind Ronaldo and McGrath.
Goal-keeping errors are a part of the game. You hope your keeper won't make many but until you've seen a keeper in action for a season or two, 50+ games, you really don't know how their error-rate compares to others.
There's a big difference between making an error then playing ok, and making an error then going to pieces (Taibi, Jim Leighton for United, though not for Aberdeen)
Romero is a competent keeper; who knows whether he is De Gea standard if given 2 full seasons at United. He would need to have improved since his Sampdoria days but that's several years ago now so not unreasonable to think he might be a better player. His experience of playing for Argentina strikes me as being a close approximation to the pressure of playing for United.
I rather suspect United would concede a similar number of goals regardless of whether De Gea or Romero is our keeper.
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The difference is, more often than not, Schmeichel would save us points, let's not forget him in 98/99 either, the fact you're comparing Romero to one of our all time greats is beyond me but that's fine, I'm not going to argue who makes more mistakes between a second string goalkeeper and one of the greatest in our history.
Yes goal-keeping errors are part of the game, De Gea, definitely, unless you don't watch him, way more often than not DOESN'T make mistakes, very consistent and pulls saves out his backside to save us on a regular basis, add that to his aerial presence and you have something, whereas Romero, not sure if he can hold the ball or if he'll drop it like he did a couple times under LVG.
Like I said, I know Romero is competent, but he's just a quick fix, forget his age, because we also got VDS when he was older so that isn't an issue, the issue is, Romero has the potential to drop us points, De Gea gets us points, I don't know about you but I want a keeper good enough to gain us points, a world class keeper. There's a reason no bigger clubs are sniffing round Romero, look at Arsenal, Cech who isn't great at the moment, why don't they go for Romero? Because he isn't good enough for them, if Lloris leaves spurs, would they? Doubt it. City? Nope they don't want Romero. I certainly don't feel like I'm crazy, i've seen Romero put in hugely decent performances, I'd say he is more than a sub, less than a starter, can play a decent role at a club like Southampton. Now let me ask you, do you want to be like Southampton who we just beat in the League cup final, or do you want to be United?
I know you're going to turn around and say, we need to see Romero in a run of games to truly judge how good or how well he can do for United. The issue with that is, do you really want to replace arguably the best goalkeeper in the world with a 29 year old that has never made it big even whilst being at the club for a year and a half? There's a reason why most fans don't want him to start, there's also a reason why top 4 teams are not actually going for him, Liverpool, Arsenal and City don't have capable goalkeepers and we've seen that time and time again, if he really was good enough I'm sure they'd have a sniff, infact he isn't even being linked by anyone reputable, if our fax machine had worked, maybe we would've found out if he was good enough, but from what I've seen, he isn't starting United quality.
Crafton has spoken. As I suspected, it won't happen simply becuase Madid won't pay obscene amounts for a keeper and Dave won't push for a move.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...news-David-Gea-transfer-blow-Real-Madrid.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...news-David-Gea-transfer-blow-Real-Madrid.html
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Won't believe it for a second. Plenty of posters have confirmed he is leaving.
Yes!!! good stuff. I hope it's true.
Refreshing to know Jose isn't settling for this nonsense.
How would they know? Or are you being sarcastic ?
The latter mano.
you doubted that? And I thought sarcasm was lost on me sometimes.How could a reporter knows more than CAF posters about transfer?