David De Gea

Don;t know how you observed that.


I've kind of had the same feeling, at times. Saying that, DDG has always been a bit of a 'lacsidaisical' type of keeper - he's not a chest-beating, shouty motivator who storms around making his presence known. He's also never been one to show anger/frustration when he concedes, which is actually a good thing but I think sometimes it can come across a little differently.
 
I've kind of had the same feeling, at times. Saying that, DDG has always been a bit of a 'lacsidaisical' type of keeper - he's not a chest-beating, shouty motivator who storms around making his presence known. He's also never been one to show anger/frustration when he concedes, which is actually a good thing but I think sometimes it can come across a little differently.
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He might be leaving but I don't see any change in enthusiasm or how he celebrates.
 
Ah good. The body language experts have arrived. I thought we lost them forever after we no longer needed to put Angel Di Maria's reactions under a microscope. Good to see we've still got that expertise to call upon.
 
Don;t know how you observed that.

He seems a more laid back than usual. Fewer spectacular saves, which could, in fairness be a result of a more confident team in front of him.

I'm not purporting to be any kind of expert in body language as some dismissively suggest. Just an opinion, fair game on a forum. If he goes, he goes. It was wonderful watching him grow. We're in good hands with Romero if so.
 
Hope he stays but we've got the more important position filled out with the right man now (Jose), so I am confident we'll be fine.
 
I had no idea his Mrs is 5 years older than him. She's probably dying to get married and have loads of bambinos in Madrid.
 
I had no idea his Mrs is 5 years older than him. She's probably dying to get married and have loads of bambinos in Madrid.
So just cause she's 31 she is dying to have kids?! Not all women want to have kids and even less so if they are career orientated.
 
I wouldn't begrudge De Gea a move to Madrid, so long as we have his identified his successor.
In sorta weird way, I'd be more upset if he left now than he did before in our last go-around. Especially if we qualify for CL. Back then, our team was shite and there was no evidence that things were turning around. At least now, you can see that Jose has turned things around and we'll be title contenders again, sooner rather than later. Disappointing to see our best player for the past several seasons leave while still in his prime.
 
That's a fair amount of points dropped next season if he does decide to leave
 
In sorta weird way, I'd be more upset if he left now than he did before in our last go-around. Especially if we qualify for CL. Back then, our team was shite and there was no evidence that things were turning around. At least now, you can see that Jose has turned things around and we'll be title contenders again, sooner rather than later. Disappointing to see our best player for the past several seasons leave while still in his prime.

Trust Mourinho he is not a simpleton.
 
One thing though, he isn't as important to our team as he was 2 years ago. Back then he literally used to save us between 1-3 points a game! Now whilst its great to have an absolute worldy in our goal, he isn't AS essential to our results.

I really hope he doesn't leave, I think he's one big 5 year contract away from staying with us completely through his prime. If we get him to sign a new deal in the next 18 months, I think we've got him for the duration of his peak.
 
Perez won't make his marquee signing a goalkeeper. There's a very small chance he will fork out 70 ish million for De Gea when he turned down the chance in Summer to buy him for much less. De Gea is having an average season by his standards with 1.95 saves per goal conceded, a very average showing for a top keeper (Donnaruma has almost double that) and we have hardly noticed. if he does go, i don't think we will suffer as much as people are making out. If we buy a top replacement and a worldclass defender to protect him, i can only see our defence improving, even if he decides to leave.

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Romero is killing it in Europa, 13 saves per goal, granted he has only conceded 1.
 
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Wonder what effect, if any, that both Mourinho and de Gea have Mendes for an agent has played. Initially thought this would only help us in terms of keeping de Gea as long as possible, but thinking about it now... maybe Mou won't push back as hard. If it came down to it, Mou is the bigger client for Mendes simply cos that connection may potentially benefit his other clients as well. Conflict of interest for sure.
 
Like a funeral in here. Off the back of a speculative article.
 
Wonder what effect, if any, that both Mourinho and de Gea have Mendes for an agent has played. Initially thought this would only help us in terms of keeping de Gea as long as possible, but thinking about it now... maybe Mou won't push back as hard. If it came down to it, Mou is the bigger client for Mendes simply cos that connection may potentially benefit his other clients as well. Conflict of interest for sure.

One thing we know for sure Mourinho will get what he want
 
13 pages of nothing. We won't sign De Gea. United have no reason to sell and we won't fork out upwards of £50 million for a goalkeeper anyways. If we win the league/CL, that means we can win with kaylor and the team's fine. No reason to spunk on a keeper. If we don't win, other areas will take priority and we won't have the money for him

Think we might sign lloris if spurs are willing to let him go for an acceptable fee. Otherwise, i dunno. Might be Donnarumma, depending on how the takeover situation at milan evolves
 
Can understand why he would leave, we're underachievers and he's quite clearly pussy wipped.
 
13 pages of nothing. We won't sign De Gea. United have no reason to sell and we won't fork out upwards of £50 million for a goalkeeper anyways. If we win the league/CL, that means we can win with kaylor and the team's fine. No reason to spunk on a keeper. If we don't win, other areas will take priority and we won't have the money for him

Think we might sign lloris if spurs are willing to let him go for an acceptable fee. Otherwise, i dunno. Might be Donnarumma, depending on how the takeover situation at milan evolves

Don't know why some people think it'd be so little (£50m or €60m). Buffon transferred from Parma to Juventus in the summer of 2001 for €53 million at the age of 23. DDG might not be Buffon but this is 16 years later in a much inflated market with a dearth of available top class keepers. If Real come knocking £70m or €90m should be the starting point for Woody, working upwards.

DDG is 26 and considering he is naturally lithe and injury free like VDS, he has easily 10 years ahead of him, probably more. Even at £80m it will be ~£7m per year amortised over his career. Can you loan a top keeper for £7m a year? Don't think so.
 
Can understand why he would leave, we're underachievers and he's quite clearly pussy wipped.
Considering he's a pimp*, that's kind of ironic

*allegedly. We'll se how that turns out. Given that it's Spain, he'll probably be cleared of everything
 
I love De Gea and I rate him as the best keeper in the world right now, but if his heart and head is elsewhere then it's goodbye and thank you. My biggest worry is not that he'll leave, but who can possibly replace him.
 
Oblak possibly but no PL experience.
You are completely overstating the relevance PL experience. Oblak was man of the match in both ties against Bayern Munich last season. He'll be more than fine against any English team.

Champions League experience is far more relevant than Premier League experience.
 
I also think that Oblak is United's best option. I don't believe that Donnarumma is obtainable, but if he is, break the bank for him.
 
Don't know why some people think it'd be so little (£50m or €60m). Buffon transferred from Parma to Juventus in the summer of 2001 for €53 million at the age of 23. DDG might not be Buffon but this is 16 years later in a much inflated market with a dearth of available top class keepers. If Real come knocking £70m or €90m should be the starting point for Woody, working upwards.

DDG is 26 and considering he is naturally lithe and injury free like VDS, he has easily 10 years ahead of him, probably more. Even at £80m it will be ~£7m per year amortised over his career. Can you loan a top keeper for £7m a year? Don't think so.

100 M euros nothing less. He is the best keeper in the world on form.
 
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I also think that Oblak is United's best option. I don't believe that Donnarumma is obtainable, but if he is, break the bank for him.

The thing is Donnarumma is yet not developed. His catching, ball handling and parrying skills needs a lot of practice and could leak in goals in rebounds and resulting in dropped points, i am not sure jose mourinho can afford to play and inexpirienced keeper if he is willing to win top honours in the game although his ability is special and when develped wil be even better than de gea was, Donnarumma has a year and a half deal left with mino riaola as his agent .Oblak on the other hand instantly replaces quality with same quality but atletico is transfer banned so it complicates the matters, also pep's city will be in the market for a keeper.
 
You are completely overstating the relevance PL experience. Oblak was man of the match in both ties against Bayern Munich last season. He'll be more than fine against any English team.

Champions League experience is far more relevant than Premier League experience.

No priemer league exp is a factor with the physical game in england what de gea earlier in his career and bravo exprienced in here.
 
No priemer league exp is a factor with the physical game in england what de gea earlier in his career and bravo exprienced in here.

Agree somewhat but all the best keepers in EPL history came from abroad.. it's about picking right talents who can develop the toughness needed. Oblak is a beast..seems a strong character.
 
Agree somewhat but all the best keepers in EPL history came from abroad.. it's about picking right talents who can develop the toughness needed. Oblak is a beast..seems a strong character.

I agree About oblak but was just making a point there. Although atletico are transfer banned so there are complications.
 
50 - 60 m ounds are peanuts. De Gea is worth 100 m euros .or either a player swap with modric varane or kroos

Dave has a 60M£ release clause, that's insane for a keeper you know, for us he's a 100M£ man for sure, but not in this market for a keeper.

If we can get 60M£ I'd be sad yes, but we all know that he won't finish his carrer at United as Madrid a just a bunch of a****** who always want our best players
 
Dave has a 60M£ release clause, that's insane for a keeper you know, for us he's a 100M£ man for sure, but not in this market for a keeper.

If we can get 60M£ I'd be sad yes, but we all know that he won't finish his carrer at United as Madrid a just a bunch of a****** who always want our best players

The so called release clause have expired last year and there were reports of that, its insane to think that we are so bad in buisness if that's still there. It may be insane for a keeper but we should not care and become trend setters now. If buffon was 53 m euros 16 years earlier it should be double of that specially in current inflated market and its not insane as he is genuine quality.The Quality is worth 100 m euros including performance based add ones and atleast 85 m euros up front. If not madrid will have it easy and laugh off our market competitive ness again like in ronaldo's case.

How do you think daniel levy managed to get 86 m pounds for bale or we payed 89 m for pogba when they are no where near the ronaldo or scholes schweinsteiger zidane quality? You dont pay for the quality of the player these days you pay for overall financial package. De gea being the spain no 1 and best keeper in the world is for sure 100 m including add ones .

You know donnarumma in this market will cost upto 40m for sure

We are also at fault of developing players who dream to go back to their country as we are scouting in the wrong market. Chelsea is better at the transfer market and scouting talents than us . Also i strongly feel perez is a racist and only signs boy toys.
 
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No priemer league exp is a factor with the physical game in england what de gea earlier in his career and bravo exprienced in here.
Bravo is just old, and that tends to effect shorter goalkeepers more (see Barthez or Casillas). Oblak is a lot more developed now than De Gea was when he initially came to United.

As someone else said, the best goalkeepers have always come from abroad.
 
Bravo is just old, and that tends to effect shorter goalkeepers more (see Barthez or Casillas). Oblak is a lot more developed now than De Gea was when he initially came to United.

As someone else said, the best goalkeepers have always come from abroad.

My point was not specific to oblak, i know oblak is the real deal, was just making a point that it is a factor when you consider buying a goalkeeper in england.