He wasn't sold, he was on loan to Malaga, until he got injured again.
David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)
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He was such a great prospect. But like said already so many injuries for him in the last 2 years.
Ah right, shame, hopefully he'll get over them, cos I would have rated him higher than De Gea.
If he is as good as Cech when he was at his peak I will be happy. Comparing is just a tool to get an idea of what is a fair price in the end there is no hard and fast rule but comparing him to another young keeper who came to the EPL has some logic.
In the end if we sign him its whatever Gill and SAF feel is a satisfactory fee.
Cech was a bargain, not every signing can be the same. What matters is signing the right player, and if the club think De Gea is that player, I don't care much about the fee.
Usually you would allow about 3 seasons for a young / inexperienced player from abroad to settle in and get to grips with the EPL and playing for United.
As a GK you are not going to be given this allowance as a GK has to perform pretty much from day one as an inconsistent GK will cause havoc in a defence. You can play with a defender having an off game but a GK causes way more damage as fullbacks and the other centre back can always cover but when its your GK making the errors its pretty hard to cover for him.
Whoever we sign has to be playing as no1 from the off. Many GK are capable shot stoppers but not many know how to command their area. Also a GK at OT needs a load of self assurance and confidence.
Exactly, we got Hernandez for around 7 million, does that mean in future we should pay no more than 7 million pounds on any 21 year old striker? Transfers are done on a separate deal by deal basis, things such as the size of the club they already play for and their importance to that club have to be taken into account.
Neuer is a better prospect in my opinion. De Gea looks like he has the tools to become a very good keeper but I've noticed how dodgy he is with crosses. This all comes with experience of course, but for the price United are supposedly paying, Neuer would be a much better purchase.
Would prefer Neuer but I'm excited about De Gea. Hopefully, in ten years we'll be thanking the club for signing him (even though I've no doubts Neuer will be top class then too).
SAf has a habit of buying players who play well against us - if Neurer has a blinder against us the cheque book will be out.
That's completely untrue.
Fergie very seldom buys anyone on a whim or on the back of one performance against United. They are all usually well thought out and well researched buys.
Neuer will, without any shadow of doubt, be at Bayern next season.
A part of me still hopes that after the semi-final games with Schalke, Neuer falls in love with the club and Old Trafford to the point where he'd be receptive to a move here.
One can dream eh.
One can dream eh.
Is this confirmed?
It's what I keep being told by German friends too - though where they're getting it from, I have no idea - probably the German equivalent of goal.com
The only ones I recall were Djemba and Saha. Could argue Ronaldo after the exhibition match but the players also urged SAF to sign him immediately.
Cocks back in? 
It's the worst kept secret in German football history.
Ronaldo was already being scouted though wasn't he?
Saha was a proven premier league goalscorer so nothing unusual there, Djemba was very cheap too.
Maybe Tevez as well
It's safe to presume they all were being scouted. Saha's first real notice was scoring two goals against the club in 2001, Djemba's was after a couple solid performances against United in the CL group stages.
Jordi Cruyff.
Apples and oranges. It's impossible to compare them.
Does the fact that Vidic only cost 7m mean that buying Smalling for 10m+ was a bad deal because he cost more? No. If the player is going to help us and we can get them for what we consider a fair price, then we do it. If the player plays for a big team that plays in Europe, then we're obviously going to pay a premium.
Can't recall where but I read elsewhere that Cruyff's signing was strictly marketing related, and not that the coaching staff felt he was of the desired quality. Have no idea of the validity of this claim.
Ronaldo was scouted for a while. I think United were already in discussions with Sporting. All his performance did was convince Fergie to bring him immediately instead of allowing him to stay an extra year on loan.
Saha was a PL player for 2 years before we signed him. I'm sure we knew all about him and he was well researched.
No clue about Djemba.
One that does come to mind is Poborsky. Fergie pretty much bought him based on Euro 96 and he turned out to be not so good.
Anybody other than the Daily Mail saying this is a done deal?
No it's not - of course it's not the reason he buys them - but I am sure it contributes to the bigger picture.
Louis Saha, Wayne Rooney, Edwin van der Sar, Carlos Tevez to name some - all had brilliant matches against us
Tevez, VDS and Rooney were already on Fergies radar though. Probably playing to impress, though I don't really recall Rooney being brilliant against, but tbf this is like 8 years ago.
Rooney came on as sub at Old Trafford, and was unplayable.
If we're talking the match pre-his Arsenal stunner, Rooney came on and was a nuisance with his physicality and challenging our defenders but that was about it.
He was a fine player. Just didn't settle at United, and Beckham was becoming quite special on that wing.
I'm sure it's as valid as us signing Park in order to sell shirts. Fergie went to Barcelona himself to be part of the negotiations. Marketing had nothing to do with us. Or with any of our signings.
Anyhow, Fergie has a habit of signing good players. Some of them played well against us, as good players do, but I'm sure we never signed anyone because he had a good game against us.
I remember him smashing Ronaldo on the touchline.
There are 2 high profile examples
Cantona - Bruce and Pallister both urged Fergie to buy him after he played for Leeds against United
Ronaldo - our fullbacks urged Fergie to step up the signing after he played against United
Djemba-Djemba is an example of the less spectacular successes of the "played against us" category of signing
Kuszcak i recall had a blinding game against us and i think it was our strikers and goalkeeping coach on the day who said something about getting him signed
I don't agree, Rooney came on and was pulling the strings for Everton and got them back in the game with 2 assists if I'm not mistaken.
Came on and totally killed Brown and the RB at that time as Rooney was playing a bit on the left but his pace and trickery was immense that day when he came on... Never in the world did I think that this was a 17 yr old at that time. Played with the composure of a 25 yr old.
Lovely, lovely legends. They may well be true in part, but niether Eric nor Ronaldo came to mind because they played well against us, or because players told Fergie we should get them. Might have been a small part in consideration, but nothing more.
The day we signed Ronaldo, Fergie said: "We have been negotiating for Cristiano for quite some time, but the interest in him from other clubs accelerated in the last few weeks so we had to move quickly to get him. It was only through our association with Sporting that they honoured our agreement of months ago".
In 2007 Fergie said: Ferguson says: "We played Sporting in a friendly and my players came in at half-time and said: 'Please sign him'. They didn?t know I had already been with the Sporting directors the previous evening to talk about it!"
That was posted here almost three days ago. Then came the talk from Athletico and De Gea himself saying that nothing happened and everything has to wait for the summer.
Didn't SAF also say that after THAT friendly there was NO way he was leaving Lisbon without signing him.
The Cantona part too, it's not a legend, it's SAF's own words!
SAF's own words about what? He said Bruce and Pallister raved about Cantona after we played Leeds. That's hardly saying we signed him because we had a good game against us (We actually won 2-0).
Same for Ronaldo. Saying that after the friendly there was no way he'd leave without signing him, doesn't change the fact we made the move before the match. Maybe his performance meant we sped things up even further to make sure we'd leave nothing to chance, but the decision was made.
Saha had several good games against us.
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