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2022-23 Performances


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6.2 Season Average Rating
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58
Clean sheets
25
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
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We want fans to admit their mistakes and not make any and dare i say it "PR moves" but the second they do, there's got to be an alterior motive behind it? Why?

Can we not just accept that he's simply taken blame for it rather than it's him hoping to save his career?
It was a bizzare take :lol:

Past his best but fair enought o come out and admit he was shit. I respect that. The other players though...
 
Should have sold to Madrid for 40 million. His last contract was the last time we could have moved on.
His form in the united career has always been patchy. Always had that wobble of form in the season. Good goal keeper but would struggle in a team competing for titles. Even if defence is good, he will targeted at set pieces because he still has very significant weaknesses.
 
It was a bizzare take :lol:

Past his best but fair enought o come out and admit he was shit. I respect that. The other players though...
I meant players too as well - Quick edit. haha!

We are all shit.

I'm dreading Liverpool next game. If we can go 4-0 down to fecking Brentford in the first half, we sure as shite can go down to 5-0 in the first 20mins against Liverpool.
 
We want fans to admit their mistakes and not make any and dare i say it "PR moves" but the second they do, there's got to be an alterior motive behind it? Why?

Can we not just accept that he's simply taken blame for it rather than it's him hoping to save his career?
Really? He is being the one to come out and show his face as opposed to the captain hiding in the back. I don't see how him coming out to face the music can be criticised in the slightest.

He's always in front of the cameras talking about how shit they were and how they have to improve, it's not good enough etc. Then in the next interview he's talking about how he wants to finish his career at United and he hopes to sign a new contract. He's got 2 seasons left on a contract that makes him the highest paid goalkeeper in the world.

In the mean time, he hasn't improved his distribution, he's Spain's 3rd choice keeper, we'll all be fecking dead before he comes out to collect a ball into the box and when his shot stopping fails him he's a Championship level keeper.

So excuse me if I'm cynical about his motives but he's been shit for fecking years and now he decides he wants to talk about it.
 
He's always in front of the cameras talking about how shit they were and how they have to improve, it's not good enough etc. Then in the next interview he's talking about how he wants to finish his career at United and he hopes to sign a new contract. He's got 2 seasons left on a contract that makes him the highest paid goalkeeper in the world.

In the mean time, he hasn't improved his distribution, he's Spain's 3rd choice keeper, we'll all be fecking dead before he comes out to collect a ball into the box and when his shot stopping fails him he's a Championship level keeper.

So excuse me if I'm cynical about his motives but he's been shit for fecking years and now he decides he wants to talk about it.

Correction, he's their 4th choice at best. That is if Enrique is even willing to consider him.

375k/w. On 2.5 times the salary of the next highest paid keeper in the league (Alisson). Can't even get into the Spanish national team. Just about the worst goalkeeper in the league in sweeping/claiming crosses/distribution. Now with a nice spoonful of blunders. :drool:
 
I find it difficult to get angry at De Gea compared to most players with the amount of times he's saved us over the years but yeah, that was awful and I think we need to start looking at modern keepers.
 
He's always in front of the cameras talking about how shit they were and how they have to improve, it's not good enough etc. Then in the next interview he's talking about how he wants to finish his career at United and he hopes to sign a new contract. He's got 2 seasons left on a contract that makes him the highest paid goalkeeper in the world.

In the mean time, he hasn't improved his distribution, he's Spain's 3rd choice keeper, we'll all be fecking dead before he comes out to collect a ball into the box and when his shot stopping fails him he's a Championship level keeper.

So excuse me if I'm cynical about his motives but he's been shit for fecking years and now he decides he wants to talk about it.
Do you know why? Because we are and he's the only one brave enough to come out and tell it like it is. Cowardly team on and off the pitch.
 
Do you know why? Because we are and he's the only one brave enough to come out and tell it like it is. Cowardly team on and off the pitch.
He cost the team again today, if you come out and say that for some reason you manage to avoid any criticism and Fred or McTomminay get it instead. He's been fecking woeful and admitting your woeful doesn't exclude you from getting shit you deserve.
 
Drop him now. Play Heaton. Anyone. Don’t care, he’s done.
 
He's always in front of the cameras talking about how shit they were and how they have to improve, it's not good enough etc. Then in the next interview he's talking about how he wants to finish his career at United and he hopes to sign a new contract. He's got 2 seasons left on a contract that makes him the highest paid goalkeeper in the world.

In the mean time, he hasn't improved his distribution, he's Spain's 3rd choice keeper, we'll all be fecking dead before he comes out to collect a ball into the box and when his shot stopping fails him he's a Championship level keeper.

So excuse me if I'm cynical about his motives but he's been shit for fecking years and now he decides he wants to talk about it.
Maybe he's trying to show his captaincy material?

EtH wants a keeper anyway to challenge De Gea and I wouldn't be surprised if we do some January deals to displace De Gea/Maguire either. He tok one look at McT last week and dropped him this week. Would not be surprised if we see a completely different team next week either:



If we're still this shocking come the latter stages of the season I'll be very concerened.
 
He cost the team again today, if you come out and say that for some reason you manage to avoid any criticism and Fred or McTomminay get it instead. He's been fecking woeful and admitting your woeful doesn't exclude you from getting shit you deserve.
Weird logic :lol: he was literally the reason we lost and he said just that. Fair play for saying it bit it still happened...
 
How can you expect to compete when you have frauds and cowards in your defence like Shaw, Dalot and this clown.
 
He is getting close to having as many bad/underwhelming seasons as he has good ones.
 
Maybe he's trying to show his captaincy material?

EtH wants a keeper anyway to challenge De Gea and I wouldn't be surprised if we do some January deals to displace De Gea/Maguire either. He tok one look at McT last week and dropped him this week. Would not be surprised if we see a completely different team next week either:



If we're still this shocking come the latter stages of the season I'll be very concerened.

Captaincy material? He shouldn't be playing full stop
 
Weird logic :lol: he was literally the reason we lost and he said just that. Fair play for saying it bit it still happened...
I don't mind him saying it, it's hard to come out and do something like that but that doesn't mean all is forgiven, he's a seasoned pro in his 30's. I thought goalkeepers got better as they aged?
 
I would say he is probably the single biggest reason the defence looks constantly all over the place. Even more so than our non-existant midfield.
 
I don't mind him saying it, it's hard to come out and do something like that but that doesn't mean all is forgiven, he's a seasoned pro in his 30's. I thought goalkeepers got better as they aged?
No one has forgiven him mate. He's getting a lot of stick.
 
Captaincy material? He shouldn't be playing full stop
Pep made a huge call dropping Joe Hart maybe it should happen to De Gea. If it doesn't work in a few more games I'd say drop him but our 2nd Best keeper we loaned out. I was a big fan of him, but his arrogance has tarred it for me. I'd rather trust a bad De Gea over Heaton.
 
I would say he is probably the single biggest reason the defence looks constantly all over the place. Even more so than our non-existant midfield.
Especially with a relatively slow CB pair. Any bog standard team with a fast physical striker can just play off the shoulder or down the channels knowing they’ll get joy. Having essentially no RB defensively doesn’t help though.
 
Every time we start playing out from the back you just know it will end in either 1) a goal conceded 2) a chance 3) a throwin or corner to the other team. It’s been like that for 3 years and 3 managers if not many more. It’s not exclusively DDGs fault but he is monumentally inept at it. Stop doing it or change the keeper (do this anyway). Also, there was a moment the Brentford goalie came flying out past the penalty spot to claim a cross, I thought right there, has Dave ever done that. Answer no, it’s genuinely like DDG is playing 5 aside. But Heaton is not the answer as he’s equally as bad at it, just without the occasional shot stopping.
 
I've never rated this guy in the time he's been here, and I've got in to quite a few heated arguments over the years with people who have been mesmerised by his shot stopping ability. You need much more than just shot stopping ability to effectively be a plus point in a proactive attacking approach to the game where the role of the keeper is very important in the build up play, as well as having the ability to sweep and command the area. And he's nowhere near good enough at those things and hence it's clear to see that he causes a dysfunctional effect at the back in the style of play ten Hag is trying to implement.

And like I've said in prior years, he didn't 'save us' with his shot stopping ability against the likes of West Ham, Arsenal and Spurs etc, but rather he prolonged the suffering by mesmerising people into thinking he wasn't the problem. And he's one of the biggest problems in a team that wants to play a proactive attacking brand of football.
 
Thing is, an argument I often hear about De Gea is "We know there are issues with him but he's not the biggest problem with our side".

Well today, he WAS the biggest problem with our side. I'm not saying he was the only problem but his lack of ability to distribute long is the main factor as to why we struggle to play out from the back so much. Opponents know they have little to fear from a long ball from the keeper, so they can press very high from the get go and snuff out any time and space the rest of the side has on the ball. Essentially the only thing we're getting from De Gea even on a good day is world-class shot-stopping, and his shot-stopping today was as woeful as everything else. His shambolic error on the first goal instigated the collapse.

Again, it's unfair to pin this game solely on De Gea but at this stage his backers are not even going to be able to pull the "He's not the biggest issue in the side so we just have to put up with him" card any more.
 
0/10

worst goalkeeper display I’ve witnessed. That’s worse than Taibi
At least when Taibi had horrible moment, Fergie made the call to use the other players. We now don’t have options. DDG has been vulnerable for very long. We don’t have time and fund to correct this before the transfer window closes.
 
Especially with a relatively slow CB pair. Any bog standard team with a fast physical striker can just play off the shoulder or down the channels knowing they’ll get joy. Having essentially no RB defensively doesn’t help though.
Aye. And those mad scrambles in the box we always seem to be victim of are his problem too. A slow looping set piece into the area is a dangerous weapon against us and our non-existant keeper.
 
The points he gains us no longer outweigh the ones he costs us, sadly.
 
Weird logic :lol: he was literally the reason we lost and he said just that. Fair play for saying it bit it still happened...
He's being manipulative in my eyes. Comes out so the narrative is, fair play he's admitted his mistake, instead of the bollocking that he should be getting from the supporters. Instead, the anger will go to his team mates when he was the biggest culprit today.
 
Credit to him for taking responsibility for it after the game in no uncertain terms. He stayed with the club when he was easily the best keeper in the world and literally our only player performing week after week.
There was only one season that he was ever arguably the best in the world, and that was only because Neuer was struggling due to injury. In hindsight even then I've got to say that we (myself included) were over-rating De Gea due to his hollywood shot-stopping ability, ignoring that all of his many weaknesses were part of the reason he was being called into making so many shots in the first place.
 
I find it difficult to get angry at De Gea compared to most players with the amount of times he's saved us over the years but yeah, that was awful and I think we need to start looking at modern keepers.
True.
In sports, a great player will eventually fade away. We have been hesitant for years to replace him.
 
Where do we start with that shitshow today?

1st goal 100% on de gea. Didnt commit to the dive to get body behind the ball an absolute GK basic, probably because it close to the post and he's worried about contact with the post (he has previous for this)

2nd goal 75% on de gea, absolute hospital pass to eriksen in his own box, a repeat of a similar incident with Fred last week that we were very fortunate to get away with. Been saying all summer we cant expect to religiously successfully play out from the back with de gea. Prooven 100% right in the two games so far.

3rd goal, not compleatly on him but yet another example of his complete inability to.command his area and deal with his balls, I would be surprised to see any other PL keeper look so compleatly hopeless in similar situations.

4th goal, 50% on de gea i reckon, ridiculously high line not at all backed up by a goalkeeper pushing high to possibly sweep. Starts deep, stays deep allowing the pass to the goalscorer, the allows the goalscorer time and space to set themselves and pick there spot. The de gea 101 of sweeping and one on ones there.

His distribution was its usual awful self, hospital short passes and long kicks that aren't very long or accurate.

Anyone still believe we actually have bigger problems!?
 
He's being manipulative in my eyes. Comes out so the narrative is, fair play he's admitted his mistake, instead of the bollocking that he should be getting from the supporters. Instead, the anger will go to his team mates when he was the biggest culprit today.
What should he say after clearly costing us the game? Do you want accountability in the team?
 
Two games into season, United has conceded 6 and DDG made 3 errors that leading to goals.
This is what happen when you leave washed up footballers unchallenged. There should always be competition, make them fight for their spot.
 
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