David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Yep, the media will always be on the lookout.

Who cares, though. He's doing the job, getting better, his shot stopping has been outstanding and he's learning the other aspects. Stoke caused problems today but they'll do that to anyone. Van der Sar also had some trouble with them. That's the way it is. We got a classy talent here.
 
excellent saves but did anyone see sczeny save today vs Bolton?

De Gea is doing just fine.
 
feckwit Craig Burley saying the Stoke attacker was just standing there and not really impeding De Gea (when Crouch scored).
If De Gea bulldozed his way through the Stoke player, there is a distinct possibility a penalty would be given.
Burley was a crap player and he offers nothing great as a co-commentator.
 
fecking andy townsend 'if this was 1 month ago, thats in the back of the net'

feck me cnut, if you were good enough, perhaps you'd know the feeling of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, replacing one of the greatest keepers that's ever played the game.
 
Was one of our best performers in a game a lot thought he'd flop in, end of.


I've said it before and I'll say it again, the kid is feckin' class.
 
The English game is fairly unique when it comes to set pieces. Being 19 and fairly slim doesn't help either. Give him a few months to learn the nuances of playing against English forwards at set pieces, and hopefully adding a few pounds and he'll be just fine.

His shot stopping and reflexes are absolutely world class though, there is no doubt about that.
 
I didn't see the game. How was he in general dealing with crosses. If I recall correctly last season or was it the season before we conceded the fewest goals from headers? The main point is De Gea will improve just like Reina did. He will get stronger and far more confident. He might also grow a bit as well. He's not the finished article but the fact many are talking that they are disapointed in some aspects of his game is merely because other aspects if his game are so good we naturally compare them. He isn't bad on crosses its just compared to his shot stopping etc its not on the same level.
 
The English game is fairly unique when it comes to set pieces. Being 19 and fairly slim doesn't help either. Give him a few months to learn the nuances of playing against English forwards at set pieces, and hopefully adding a few pounds and he'll be just fine.

His shot stopping and reflexes are absolutely world class though, there is no doubt about that.

exactly.
 
He's getting better with every game, and doesn't let mistakes affect him. I don't think you can ask for more than that.
 
Some class saves yesterday, but should have come and claimed the corner for the goal.

Not going to do that this year. Not his style. Needs to be coached into him. Was a worry for me when I started to watch him before he joined us. He hardly came for corners that came into the 6 yd box. Not sure what his strategy but I am sure it will come with experience.
The good thing is that we are not going to be facing a lot of teams with Giants such as Stoke.
 
I didn't see the game. How was he in general dealing with crosses. If I recall correctly last season or was it the season before we conceded the fewest goals from headers? The main point is De Gea will improve just like Reina did. He will get stronger and far more confident. He might also grow a bit as well. He's not the finished article but the fact many are talking that they are disapointed in some aspects of his game is merely because other aspects if his game are so good we naturally compare them. He isn't bad on crosses its just compared to his shot stopping etc its not on the same level.

his shot stopping was brilliant, but could've commanded his area better, didn't seem that safe with him from the corners but he was constantly under pressure, it's difficult for any keeper
 
Reina commands his area better than any keeper in the league. In his first season in the PL he was terrible at dealing with crosses. Go figure.

In Spain it's a free-kick if an attacker even competes with the keeper for a ball in the 6 yard box. That's an official refereeing directive. I remember Benitez complaining about this once. Moving from that kind of protection to a league where De Gea can take a battering like he did against WBA it's no great surprise he's erring on the side of caution.

That said, even seasoned PL keepers would have conceded that goal. Quality delivery and a 6 foot seven freak meeting it right at the top of his jump after a long run-up. Even if De Gea had come out, who's to say he'd have definitely got the ball?
 
Reina commands his area better than any keeper in the league. In his first season in the PL he was terrible at dealing with crosses. Go figure.

In Spain it's a free-kick if an attacker even competes with the keeper for a ball in the 6 yard box. That's an official refereeing directive. I remember Benitez complaining about this once. Moving from that kind of protection to a league where De Gea can take a battering like he did against WBA it's no great surprise he's erring on the side of caution.

That said, even seasoned PL keepers would have conceded that goal. Quality delivery and a 6 foot seven freak meeting it right at the top of his jump after a long run-up. Even if De Gea had come out, who's to say he'd have definitely got the ball?

Defenders usually blame the gk for not coming to claim the ball but its such a hard skill to perfect. If crotch had a free header inside the box then I would be considering why the GK dud not come. However as there were 2 defenders in front of him he did the right thing and stood on his line.
 
fecking andy townsend 'if this was 1 month ago, thats in the back of the net'

feck me cnut, if you were good enough, perhaps you'd know the feeling of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world, replacing one of the greatest keepers that's ever played the game.

I've not seen what he said but based on that quote it just sounds like he is saying he struggled when first arriving but now he is settling into the job and showing what he can do. Think that one sounds a fair comment but some people do seem to get over sensitive about comments from the media.
 
In Spain it's a free-kick if an attacker even competes with the keeper for a ball in the 6 yard box. That's an official refereeing directive. I remember Benitez complaining about this once. Moving from that kind of protection to a league where De Gea can take a battering like he did against WBA it's no great surprise he's erring on the side of caution.

It works the other way round as well. I remember one of our young defenders (Jones?) advising him to lead with his elbow. Do that (or the traditional lead with the knee/straight leg trick) in La Liga and you could be giving away a penalty and getting a red card.
 
I strongly dislike Townshend but he might be right in that a month ago De Gea mightn't have made those saves. What you have to remember is a month ago he was

1) Late back to pre-season training, he played in the U-21 European Championships where his team won (Longest possible tournament run)
2) Adjusting to life in England (He hadn't bought a house at that stage, and I think his family/girlfriend weren't yet with him)

The only weakness to his game in my mind is aerially, and he can adapt to that. Last month his errors were largely down to lapses in concentration.
 
It's simply baffling that any blame is being aportioned to DeGea for the goal. To do so only proves some kind of agenda. The way pundits and "experts" have pursued him is quite disgusting.
 
It works the other way round as well. I remember one of our young defenders (Jones?) advising him to lead with his elbow. Do that (or the traditional lead with the knee/straight leg trick) in La Liga and you could be giving away a penalty and getting a red card.

I don't think that holds true. I'm not aware of any refereeing directive in England which allows keepers commit assaults that would be a red card anywhere else on the pitch?
 
Hernandez causes loads of problems for goalkeepers before a set-piece is taken, and he's relatively short; imagine what it was like for DDG with those Stoke giants in front of him...
 
I'm busy burning beefburgers for tea, mate. Maybe you can see the smoke where you live. :D
 
I've not seen what he said but based on that quote it just sounds like he is saying he struggled when first arriving but now he is settling into the job and showing what he can do. Think that one sounds a fair comment but some people do seem to get over sensitive about comments from the media.

I wouldn't be aggravated if that were the case. That was a snippet of the bullshit he was sprouting about how De Gea is still shaky. His fellow pundits even picked him up on it but he still waffled on like a pork chop.
 
excellent saves but did anyone see sczeny save today vs Bolton?

Both De Gea's saves were better.

Sczeny's was very good too, mind.

He's really not very good on set pieces though, but a couple of months training and a bit of time in the Gym should fix that.

He looked no worse then any other keeper dealing with Stoke's set pieces yesterday. I've seen the likes of Cech, Reina, VDS all coming and flapping away at those throw ins. De Gea came and missed one I think.

Some class saves yesterday, but should have come and claimed the corner for the goal.

Nonsense.
 
Reina commands his area better than any keeper in the league. In his first season in the PL he was terrible at dealing with crosses. Go figure.

In Spain it's a free-kick if an attacker even competes with the keeper for a ball in the 6 yard box. That's an official refereeing directive. I remember Benitez complaining about this once. Moving from that kind of protection to a league where De Gea can take a battering like he did against WBA it's no great surprise he's erring on the side of caution.

That said, even seasoned PL keepers would have conceded that goal. Quality delivery and a 6 foot seven freak meeting it right at the top of his jump after a long run-up. Even if De Gea had come out, who's to say he'd have definitely got the ball?

This for me was the first thought when they scored. Quality delivery. An inside swing perfectly placed. Very hard to predict where the ball ends. If you don't come out straight away you shouldn't bother. That's why quality set pieces takers are hard to come by. Those who either put in an in-swinging or out-swinging ball instead of the typical pass with no bend.

Etherington deserves credit rather than other players getting slated.
 
Of course a good keeper will always come out for a header, because that always works



and they never get beaten from a setpiece inside their own 6 yard box (33 s)

 
Young de Gea's saves are some top stuff. Against Stoke, penalty against Arsenal + some against Chelsea too.

This lad is doing his best in getting us precious points!
 
Papers giving credit, finally.

It was the moment, just two minutes into the game, when David de Gea raced off his line to half-punch Rory Delap’s missile of a throw-in that the Manchester United goalkeeper came of age in his ill-fitting No 1 shirt. The fact that De Gea failed to connect properly with his attempted clearance was of secondary importance to the courage the 20 year-old displayed in meeting the unique challenge of Stoke City head-on.

Fortune favours the brave and, five weeks into his first season in English football, the Spanish youngster can now say he has endured the crucible of the Britannia Stadium and survived. De Gea, United’s £18.3 million successor to the retired Edwin van der Sar, could still give a passable impression of a Sunday morning goalkeeper thanks to his incongruous appearance between the posts – the baggy, untucked shirt and adolescent facial hair, but as Stoke pounded his goal from all directions, he stood up to the test.

The early fumbles against Manchester City and West Bromwich are fading into the memory, replaced by images of penalty saves against Arsenal, scrambled blocks against Chelsea and a hat-trick of reflex saves against Stoke on Saturday.

His grounding in La Liga with Atlético Madrid has left De Gea clearly unprepared for the crosses and high balls of the Premier League, but he appears emboldened by the task of adjusting to the demands rather than cowed by it. After earning United a point at Stoke and preserving his team’s unbeaten record this season, De Gea has turned a corner.

“I don’t think you get much more physical games than away to Stoke,” United midfielder Darren Fletcher said. “They bombard you with balls into the box, set-pieces and corners, but he dealt with it well and he will take a lot of confidence from that performance, which was a bit of a welcome to English football.

“David did fantastic. We showed him plenty of videos and there was a lot of preparation going into the game, showing him what to expect, but it didn’t faze him and he stood up to the challenge.

“When you come here, you really have to embrace the challenge of facing Stoke. If you come here with any fear, it is going to cost you.”

Prior to the game, Stoke manager Tony Pulis had conceded that United’s resolve and battle-readiness had contributed to their success in being the only club to enjoy a 100 per cent record against his team since their return to the top flight in 2008. And United’s start, without the injured Wayne Rooney and Jonny Evans, who aggravated an ankle injury in the warm-up, suggested that the champions would make it seven straight victories against Stoke.

United could have had a third- minute penalty when Jonathan Woodgate bundled Javier Hernández over inside the 18 yard box. Referee Peter Walton waved play on, but Hernández lasted just five more minutes before limping off.

Nani put United ahead with another stunning solo goal when he played a one-two with Fletcher before scoring with a left-foot strike from 15 yards. But despite United’s high-intensity game, pressing the ball in Stoke

territory, the home side rallied. De Gea brilliantly palmed an Andy Wilkinson shot onto the bar before tipping a goal-bound Jon Walters strike around the post. He made his third stunning save of the match when he kept out a Crouch effort with his elbow in the second half.

Poor defensive marking by Rio Ferdinand and Phil Jones, however, left De Gea exposed on 52 minutes when Crouch rose six yards out to head Matthew Etherington’s corner into the net. It was his first goal for Stoke since his August move from Tottenham and enabled him to join an elite group of players to score Premier League goals for six different clubs. The most satisfying statistic for Stoke, however, was not Crouch’s personal milestone, but their success in finally taking a point from United, who will ultimately view this as a point gained rather than two lost, judging by the ongoing improvement of Pulis’s team.


Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea passes stern Stoke examination with flying colours - Telegraph

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Such are the ongoing perceptions of frailty that swirl around David de Gea, Stoke City manager Tony Pulis was keen last week to find out if the Spanish goalkeeper would play against his team for Manchester United on Saturday.

But if Pulis believed De Gea’s presence in goal for United would in any way weaken the Barclays Premier League champions’ resilience to some of Stoke’s more direct play at the Britannia Stadium then he was wrong.

De Gea was certainly not perfect on Saturday. This, however, was perhaps his best game since joining United and team-mate Darren Fletcher feels the young goalkeeper has now taken a huge step forward as he looks to establish himself as a worthy successor to Edwin van der Sar.
Not intimidated: David de Gea dealt with all that Stoke threw at him

Not intimidated: David de Gea dealt with all that Stoke threw at him

Fletcher said: 'He did fantastic, but he has been performing fantastic anyway.

'We showed him plenty of videos and there was a lot of preparation going into the game, showing him what to expect.

'But it didn’t faze him and he stood up to the challenge.

'Stoke are a big, physical side, with a lot of players over six foot and, on the whole, a lot of players stood up to that and did really wel

'I don’t think you get much more physical games than away to Stoke. They bombard you with balls into the box, set-pieces and corners, but David dealt with it well and he will take a lot of confidence from that performance, which was a bit of a welcome to English football.'

De Gea made three good saves as United and Stoke played out a deserved draw but is likely to be rested on Tuesday night when United host Basle of Switzerland in the Champions League. The Dane Anders Lindegaard is expected to play in that game.

Read more: Defiant De Gea passes Stoke's physical examination at The Britannia | Mail Online
 
That save from Wilkinson was fantastic. The power of the shot alone should have guaranteed a goal.

De Gea might have struggled a bit so far, but the saves he's made have equalled points saved or won for United; no small feat for a supposed 'flop'.
 
I only saw the first half and thought he had a very good half. A bit tentative but then that's to be expected at the Britannia.

I can still see form the sensationalist vocab that a few of you are trying your damnest to counteract the naysayers. Still, that's to be expected your football fans.

I thought the two 1st half saves were excellent however, with the first, I think you'd find that those types of shots are rarely missed by any keeper in any of the top divisions.

The second was somewhat fortunate but then what keeper doesn't get a bit now and again. He needs to work on strengthening his wrists.
 
The save from Wilkinson is similar to the goal Foster conceded against Burnley in 09/10 - smashed high and near post

It may be similar but it's not even close ... I looked it up and the Robbie Blake shot is an absolute screamer and off to the side of Foster, not directly at him. It was in the back of the net before Foster moved. No keeper would have got it. None. Nada. No way.
 
Overall, I think he is settling in very well. Some people are never going to be 100% satisfied with his contribution. I thought he kept us in the game throughout. He can only improve and will while at United learn from this experience.
 
It may be similar but it's not even close ... I looked it up and the Robbie Blake shot is an absolute screamer and off to the side of Foster, not directly at him. It was in the back of the net before Foster moved. No keeper would have got it. None. Nada. No way.

Huh? The ball wasn't struck straight at De Gea either. It was also off to the side of him. But still you claim that the shot from the Stoke player would be "rarely missed by any keeper in any of the top divisions" and the Robbie blake effort wouldn't have been saved by any keeper on the planet? None. Nada. No way.

You're odd.
 
I only saw the first half and thought he had a very good half. A bit tentative but then that's to be expected at the Britannia.

I can still see form the sensationalist vocab that a few of you are trying your damnest to counteract the naysayers. Still, that's to be expected your football fans.

I thought the two 1st half saves were excellent however, with the first, I think you'd find that those types of shots are rarely missed by any keeper in any of the top divisions.

The second was somewhat fortunate but then what keeper doesn't get a bit now and again. He needs to work on strengthening his wrists.

Sensationalist vocab? Both those saves in the first half were straight out of the top drawer.

How exactly was he 'somewhat fortunate' with the second one? If his wrists weren't strong he wouldn't have stopped it.

It may be similar but it's not even close ... I looked it up and the Robbie Blake shot is an absolute screamer and off to the side of Foster, not directly at him. It was in the back of the net before Foster moved. No keeper would have got it. None. Nada. No way.

The Wilkinson one wasn't straight at De Gea, his arm is at full stretch when he punches it away.

Are you the guy who was moaning about people complimenting his distribution? Did De Gea sleep with your wife or something?
 
He has everything he needs to be one of the worlds best, which is fine by me. He needs to learn the PL and decisions but he can be taught all of those here.

I think he was a great purchase.
 
He did brilliantly I felt. Sure, he could have come for more balls but then I prefered him to sit on the line and wait. Because he's still a bit flimsy and he'll be bullied out of the ball if he comes too often. But all the right signs are there. He's going to be a great long term purchase I feel.
 
I thought the Wilkinson shot was similar to the goal Lindegaard conceded against Southampton in the F.A Cup last season.
 
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