David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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It's mostly distance shots I think from outside the area. From the area Cleverley and Anderson should cover. They have been great but that's the main thing they need to improve on.

Spurs were silly with their distance shooting in fairness. Nowt to do with the lack work of the midfield.
 
Jamie told his dad about that lovely little stat he got from twitter.
 
Wayne Rooney has backed Manchester United's new goalkeeper David de Gea to overcome his early mistakes and be a success at Old Trafford.

De Gea, signed for £18m from Atlético Madrid by Sir Alex Ferguson in the summer, has endured a difficult start. He was defended by Ferguson, but blamed by many others, for Manchester City's two goals in the Community Shield at Wembley. And there was no doubt who was culpable for West Bromwich Albion's leveller at the Hawthorns seven days later.

Since then, though, De Gea kept a clean sheet against Tottenham Hotspur and, although eyebrows were raised on Sunday by the Theo Walcott effort that went through his legs against Arsenal, the 20-year-old's penalty save to deny Robin van Persie earlier in the 8-2 thrashing came at a far more important part of the game.

"He is still young and has probably got a lot to learn," said Rooney. "But he is working hard and doing well in training.

"He is a strong character. After the Manchester City game, and then West Brom he didn't seem to be affected. He was on the training pitch the next day, working hard. The last couple of games he's done well for us and he will only get better the more he plays.

"David is obviously a good shot-stopper. I hadn't seen much of him before he signed but that was something I saw immediately. And his passing out from the back is alongside Edwin's. He very rarely kicks long to a forward."

Wayne Rooney backs David de Gea to succeed at Manchester United | Football | guardian.co.uk
 
I've studied Walcott's goal, and I'm roughly 70% sure it took a deflection off Evans (due to the voluminous distribution debacle I couldn't be arsed to check if this has already been discussed.)
 
I think De Gea will improve and join the likes of Schmikes, Edwin as good-great goalies for United. He has not profited from getting a consistent back 4 playing in front of him, seen United's shield of Carrick swapped for a more adventurous Ando-Cleverly midfield axis. This has resulted in a lot more shots and attacks penetrating our defense.

In an ideal world, he would have Rio-Vidic and Carrick protecting him for 2-3 months while he beds in with the United team.

Still, its 3 games and 3 wins. I am not complaining. He also seems to have a lot of luck. Whenever he makes mistakes, the team still ends up winning
 
I think De Gea will improve and join the likes of Schmikes, Edwin as good-great goalies for United. He has not profited from getting a consistent back 4 playing in front of him, seen United's shield of Carrick swapped for a more adventurous Ando-Cleverly midfield axis. This has resulted in a lot more shots and attacks penetrating our defense.

In an ideal world, he would have Rio-Vidic and Carrick protecting him for 2-3 months while he beds in with the United team.

Still, its 3 games and 3 wins. I am not complaining. He also seems to have a lot of luck. Whenever he makes mistakes, the team still ends up winning

Good post.

People complain that Evra is caught out of position, but at United the fullbacks are often told to get forward and take risks. In such a situation having a central midfielder who can shield the back four and even drop back to pick up a player allows the central defenders to push out wide and cover for Evra on occasion.

I think the full story of the soft goals United have conceded of late is a bit more complex than simply De Gea or Evra being at fault. We often only see the end of a defensive breakdown and miss the build up.
 
Spain u21s beat Georgia today 7-2. I can't find the highlights anywhere, however.
 
I think De Gea will improve and join the likes of Schmikes, Edwin as good-great goalies for United. He has not profited from getting a consistent back 4 playing in front of him, seen United's shield of Carrick swapped for a more adventurous Ando-Cleverly midfield axis. This has resulted in a lot more shots and attacks penetrating our defense.

In an ideal world, he would have Rio-Vidic and Carrick protecting him for 2-3 months while he beds in with the United team.

Still, its 3 games and 3 wins. I am not complaining. He also seems to have a lot of luck. Whenever he makes mistakes, the team still ends up winning

Uniteds shield...-eeeeek. He's just a young goalkeeper who we knew would make mistakes...there's nothing much to add. I think Evans and Jones have done very well. You could say Rio and Vidic haven't been missed to a large degree as for Carrick protecting him...I think he's got a reputation and people have been chancing their arm
 
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U21s: Georgia v Spain 2:7. David de Gea conceded a goal from outside the box. Similar to Young second v Arsenal, but to the closer post.


He was captaining the side aswell.
 
Ridiculous people are judging a goal he conceded against Arsenal. Who gives a shite when we won 8-2? We were already 3-0 up at the time, hardly makes a blind bit of difference.

He saved a penalty when we were only 1-0 up and that's all that matters really.
 
Ridiculous people are judging a goal he conceded against Arsenal. Who gives a shite when we won 8-2? We were already 3-0 up at the time, hardly makes a blind bit of difference.

He saved a penalty when we were only 1-0 up and that's all that matters really.

It's not ridiculous, unless you expect us to knock in 8 every game we play in?

It shows a continuing vulnerability which is perfectly natural yet slightly worrying too. I'm concerned about whether we can get him both accustomed to PL football and performing consistently to a high standard but I'm pleased he's looked significantly better each game though. Incidentally, the fact PiG is still around perhaps indicates that Fergie is not entirely confident himself.
 
Ridiculous people are judging a goal he conceded against Arsenal. Who gives a shite when we won 8-2? We were already 3-0 up at the time, hardly makes a blind bit of difference.

If the goal was a mistake then regardless of being of it being 3-0 or 30-0 it's still another mistake and would make it 4 mistakes in 4 games which is worrying because if he carries on making mistakes then sooner or later his team mates wont be able to get him out of trouble

Obviously though the spot light is on him so everything is being highlighted, coming and missing a cross against Spurs which resulted in Defoe hitting the post wouldn't of even been a footnote had VDS been in goal but as it's De Gea it gets talked about. He does need to go through a couple of games soon without having any part of his performance questioned

the fact PiG is still around perhaps indicates that Fergie is not entirely confident himself.

I'd argue it's because no one wants to take him off of our hands
 
PIG is here because we couldn't get rid of him.

1. De Gea

2. Lindegaard
 
PIG is here because we couldn't get rid of him.

1. De Gea

2. Lindegaard

Yep, PIG will have no bearing if De Gea succeeds or fails. If the worst comes then Lindegaard will have to step and the worst case scenario will be De Gea and Lindegaard alternating depending on Fergie's mood.
 
PIG is here because we couldn't get rid of him.

1. De Gea

2. Lindegaard

And you found that funny?

I'm fairly sure Kuszczak could have found another club - he had a good rep in the PL before moving to United and has all the training and experience he got while here - he just had the misfortune to be here at the same time as Van der Saar. I'm sure he's still got a lot to offer though.

The thing about those two options is that they're both equally inexperienced in PL terms - if SAF decides to take De Gea out of the firing line, the guy he has to turn to is just as raw.

I doubt Kuszczak has played his last game for us, and I also reckon he's good to have around in training - assuming he still trains with the 1st team. Having 3 frontline GKs is hardly that crazy anyway, lots of other clubs do and we did for a long time when Foster and VdS were at the club along with PiG.
 
It's not ridiculous, unless you expect us to knock in 8 every game we play in?

It shows a continuing vulnerability which is perfectly natural yet slightly worrying too. I'm concerned about whether we can get him both accustomed to PL football and performing consistently to a high standard but I'm pleased he's looked significantly better each game though. Incidentally, the fact PiG is still around perhaps indicates that Fergie is not entirely confident himself.

:rolleyes:

Yes, because he's played so many games so far hasn't he, we've got so much to judge him on.

He's played 3 competitive games for this club and already we've got people "concerned about whether we can get him accustomed to PL fooball". Why not wait until we've actually got enough games to judge him on? He's barely played at all so far, lets give it a bit of time. These mistakes have been massively exaggerated by a media keen to criticise any area of United's squad because that sells papers to ABU muppets desperate to sense a weakness in our team because they can't bare the thought of us winning yet again. I saw VDS concede many goals like Walcott's in his time here, it's not too bad a thing to do, all this De Gea nonsense is getting ridiculous now.

He's only played 3 competitive games for the club so far! At least wait a few months to judge him ffs.
 
And you found that funny?

I'm fairly sure Kuszczak could have found another club - he had a good rep in the PL before moving to United and has all the training and experience he got while here - he just had the misfortune to be here at the same time as Van der Saar. I'm sure he's still got a lot to offer though.

The thing about those two options is that they're both equally inexperienced in PL terms - if SAF decides to take De Gea out of the firing line, the guy he has to turn to is just as raw.

I doubt Kuszczak has played his last game for us, and I also reckon he's good to have around in training - assuming he still trains with the 1st team. Having 3 frontline GKs is hardly that crazy anyway, lots of other clubs do and we did for a long time when Foster and VdS were at the club along with PiG.

I found it funny that you had no idea Lindegaard existed.
 
If the goal was a mistake then regardless of being of it being 3-0 or 30-0 it's still another mistake and would make it 4 mistakes in 4 games which is worrying because if he carries on making mistakes then sooner or later his team mates wont be able to get him out of trouble

Obviously though the spot light is on him so everything is being highlighted, coming and missing a cross against Spurs which resulted in Defoe hitting the post wouldn't of even been a footnote had VDS been in goal but as it's De Gea it gets talked about. He does need to go through a couple of games soon without having any part of his performance questioned

Exactly, it's being massively exaggerated because people are desperate to find a weakness in our squad. Many, many goalkeepers make very similar mistakes and they're not mentioned - Hart made exactly the same mistake as De Gea in the Community Shield and no-one mentioned it once. De Gea has also done lots of good things against all the teams that hardly get talked about. I maintain that a penalty save at only 1-0 up was the most important thing he needed to do, and he did it.
 
:rolleyes:

Yes, because he's played so many games so far hasn't he, we've got so much to judge him on.

He's played 3 competitive games for this club and already we've got people "concerned about whether we can get him accustomed to PL fooball". Why not wait until we've actually got enough games to judge him on? He's barely played at all so far, lets give it a bit of time. These mistakes have been massively exaggerated by a media keen to criticise any area of United's squad because that sells papers to ABU muppets desperate to sense a weakness in our team because they can't bare the thought of us winning yet again. I saw VDS concede many goals like Walcott's in his time here, it's not too bad a thing to do, all this De Gea nonsense is getting ridiculous now.

He's only played 3 competitive games for the club so far! At least wait a few months to judge him ffs.

Where did I judge him?

Pointing out that he has to more or less immediately acclimatise to a foreign league, and do it at United - a notoriously unforgiving environment for goalkeepers - is hardly criticism or judgement.
 
I found it funny that you had no idea Lindegaard existed.

Where did I say that?

When was the last time United - indeed, any big PL club - had two goalkeepers with such scant PL experience as their frontline keepers? In fact, they've both got strikingly short CVs full stop, never mind PL experience.

I'm sure they'll come good and give great service - I was just speculating that maybe SAF chose to keep PiG around as experienced cover.
 
Where did I say that?

When was the last time United - indeed, any big PL club - had two goalkeepers with such scant PL experience as their frontline keepers? In fact, they've both got strikingly short CVs full stop, never mind PL experience.

I'm sure they'll come good and give great service - I was just speculating that maybe SAF chose to keep PiG around as experienced cover.

No, you weren't. You clearly implied that PIG was back up to De Gea, with no mention of Lindegaard. At all.
 
No, you weren't. You clearly implied that PIG was back up to De Gea, with no mention of Lindegaard. At all.

Well you misunderstood me then - my point was that PiG is a good guy to have around when you're bedding in two such young an inexperienced GKs.

I've no idea why you feel the need to make your point - go and search through my posts and you'll see I've been very well aware of Lindegaard for some time now.
 
I would rather gargle with my own testicles than read through your post history. No offence.
 
Jesus... that goal around the 1 minute mark is fantastic...controlled with the right and chipped with the left. Who scored it?


EDIT: Spain's own goal is comical really...I dunno if De Gea should've been that far off his line though, I've noticed that at times with United.
 
Jesus... that goal around the 1 minute mark is fantastic...controlled with the right and chipped with the left. Who scored it?


EDIT: Spain's own goal is comical really...I dunno if De Gea should've been that far off his line though, I've noticed that at times with United.

He's come off his line to collect the ball, the ball was over the defenders head so there was no need for him to flick it like that. Wasn't De Gea fault at all.
 
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