Maroon I kind of get the point you are making its quite a subtle nuanced point but I dont think its really appropriate when discussing whether a gk has good distribution. You are mixing up team play with individual ability.
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To be fair, it's kind of difficult to follow the logic of some of your arguments against those praising de Gea's distribution.
Err, no because that could quite possibly be the only pass on, hence in effect he's bailed his keeper out on that occasion.
Definite troll.
That was a long time ago RDCR07. Without going back to what I actually wrote, and there's a fair amount, I suspect what I was saying is that when he's been fit over the past four years (and he's been very unlucky in this respect) he is imo just as good, if not a better shot-stopper, than any of them, and that he has probably made less errors to boot. He is/was remarkably consistent, and that is behind a bomb-scare of a defence and with successive coaches who frankly don't have a clue. [Cue: avalanche of abuse for daring to suggest such a thing of two club legends].
He's not exactly been playing behind ultra defensive teams like Chelsea/City/Liverpool has he ...
I think that's how this thread has morphed.
I've never, or I don't think I have ever, said at any point, that he didn't have good/great distribution, I simply asked folks to explain to me what this party line defence of his performances to date, along the lines of 'But he's got great distribution' (to paraphrase endless posts) meant. Only a couple of folks came up with a reasoned response (for whatever reason to or not to respond).
I then put forward that his abilities in this department will really be measured when United are not in such a rich/dominant vein of form. Obviously there's more to it than that but that's the jist.
I don't know why anyone's bothered to humour him after this...he doesn't have a clue. Most of what he's been saying is pseudo-intellectual bullshit, looking to make a deeper point when he's failed to grasp the simple, and pertinent, point. De Gea's distribution is a hugely useful asset, and will continue to be. If Chicharito time his run just a little bit better he could've had an assist with an absolute beauty of a pass, he's added pace to so many of our attacks with quick, accurate distribution and his ability to pick out a player over distances even if it doesn't directly lead to a goal stretches teams and opens up space (which is what Scholes and Rooney are doing, you gimp).
It's obviously a part of a keeper's game rather than some 'meaningless buzzword':
Ryan Giggs; after De Gea's first match said:
And yes, people prefer to talk about the good qualities that he's shown than go on and on about the bad qualities, go figure. His distribution is excellent, that won't change. His shot-stopping and cross-catching likely will, they'll likely improve. Never mind just standing behind your own players it's just easier to notice what players excel at in their early stages than what they are poor at, so people are (at least partly) withholding judgement about the rest of his game because of this, I think.
What you actually said was:
My connection is rather slow ... is Rooney about to hold up a placard that says :
'That's quite some selective quoting there Feeky Magee',
or would that sort of scenario require that his agent to get involved ?
Amen. So, sayeth the Poster of the Year, 2010. Later, I've got to go tuck my tail between my legs now and leave Brwned to work on his routine to make sure he retains the title.
What's up with your stupid attempts of being sarcastic? Running out things to say?
I'm in stitches. Hilarious stuff.
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x 20 and that's what the last few pages have been.
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x 20 and that's what the last few pages have been.
The kid played well yesterday. People need to cut him some fecking slack.
He played very well, Maroon is just deliberately acting like a know-it-all cnut, which is failing because aside from his carefully worded sarcasm he obviously knows feck all about the game.
Funny thing is, I did the same thing, but mine meant that Nani's brain was fecked up, I don't know what Rooney meant by his.
ohhh, and by the way.
..and this, I guess.
...and just because I can, here's my original post for all you that like a good gang-up kicking.
Err, no because that could quite possibly be the only pass on, hence in effect he's bailed his keeper out on that occasion.
You clearly have to be taking the piss right here.
"Err...uhmm..no you see because it's maybe, could be, possibly what de Gea has really done is play Smalling into a position where his only option is to play the ball back...and erm..yeah! That and all of you are complete nutters for thinking he has any talent and LULZ! herpa derp!!1!..."
What are these last two quotes suppose to prove other than show that those two posters have seen something promising in the boys play, and they see an aspect to his game that in their opinion is better (or possibly better) than VDS? Neither of them are saying that de Gea is overall better than VDS. Neither even come close to saying that.
Was it really selective at all? I mean it was selective in the sense that I selected it out of a larger body of text, but it didn't appear to be a misrepresentation of your feelings at the time.
The lad looks like he has some real quality but is still making mistakes that cost goals.
For those who are making that point then I think it is fairly objective.
De Gea is subject to objective analysis just like any other player.
As always time will tell, and I will support him every time he pulls on a shirt.
For those who are making that point then I think it is fairly objective.
De Gea is subject to objective analysis just like any other player.
As always time will tell, and I will support him every time he pulls on a shirt.
... indeed, you have to be absolutely bonkers (based on what we've seen to date). I believe however, that I was responding to those who accused me of making stuff up.
it would be interesting reading the reviews of how steady VDS and big Peter Schmikes were when they were 20.
In all probability they would not have been under such scrutiny obviously.
Still having seen DDG so far I can clearly see the quality in the lad. His lack of concentration, is without doubt brought on by the fact more often than not the action is at the other end.
Even so he has done pretty well.
In all probability they would not have been under such scrutiny obviously.
Still having seen DDG so far I can clearly see the quality in the lad. His lack of concentration, is without doubt brought on by the fact more often than not the action is at the other end.
Even so he has done pretty well.
All you've seen were Revista de la Liga highlights. I've watched pretty much every minute of De Gea's league appearances in La Liga with Atletico. He's a phenomenal talent. If Edwin Van Der Sar says he's got everything and Casillas (from a rival club) thinks he will retire him then I will judge them more than your shitty opinion. All you are doing is being deliberately obtuse and controversial, if you don't fancy getting behind a United player who's been unfairly caned by the media then you can feck off and support City.
'at all' ... you just then go on to say it was selected (out of a larger body). Anyway, look, I don't have the will nor the stomach to continue the Gordon debate at this point.
What I will say however, is that when various replacements were being touted to fill VdS's considerable boots I wanted to see Ferguson to take a chance on Gordon. Why ? Because having followed him for sometime, and fairly closely at that, I felt he was a very good fit for United, and at probably a third of the eventual cost of a de Gea (or Neuer). He isn't perfect by all means but he checked many of the boxes expected of a top keeper.
He'll be available for next to nothing in the Jan transfer window, and at 30, I guarantee he'd be well worth a few million if he can come back and stay fit.
We'll see what happens.
Mate...it's not just one post, he's been an irritating little turd for the best part for 4 pages
I'm not really seeing anything that justifies that shit he's getting.
I don't know what this means but if it does mean 2-5 live tv games a week over the past few seasons then yes, guilty as charged. As I said, that's not to say I've seen him on more than a half dozen occasions, so if VdS or Casillas believe he's the cat's meow then who am I to argue.
I do remember a certain Italian keeper who was fairly handy between the sticks backing a certain Scottish keeper at a pretty young age too, but then maybe he ended up going to the wrong club.
Anyway, just my shitty opinion so nae bother.
PS - you're pissed off coz I pulled you up with that quote, aren't you ?
BaldwinLegend has been an irritating little turd for 4 years. That we know of.
The word 'selective' is normally used to imply a quote has been taken out of context. Otherwise, why say it? You had claimed in this thread that you believed you only said Gordon was a better shot-stopper, I found a quote where you simply said he was better. The rest of the quote wasn't relevant in the context. Not to go all Shawshank, but you're being deliberately obtuse.
Can't say I've had much recollection of him prior to this, but I'll take your word for it
Can't say I've had much recollection of him prior to this, but I'll take your word for it
He flounced off like a little girl a while back because he was upset with the Caf. Actually requested to be banned. He then slithered back, begging to be reinstated. Which he eventually was. Unfortunately.
Lance, I hate to bring it up but you do rather sound like a bully ... you know what happens to bullies.
Just read the last few pages. Seems we have a lot of people sticking up for our new, young keeper and one person who has probably photoshopped Craig Gordons head onto his Manchester United squad pictures and calendar. Is that about the gist of it?
Sounds pretty much spot on to me.
They get banned for trolling?
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