I like the fact that he's just going about his business now, calmly doing the simple things like catching crosses, punching and clearing his lines with minimal fuss. And, of course, producing the odd world class save when he needs to. For me, it's a sign that he's truly top class, though I can't bring myself to say anything like "best in the world" just yet.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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What was De Gea dreaming of when Sagna whipped this beautiful ball in?
Electric sheep?
Can't stop watching that. What a lovely cross.
Best in the PL, and probably in the top five in the world.
Currently they are a number of top class keepers in the premier league, for example Lloris, Mignolet, DDG, Cech, Begovic, Krul to name a few.
How would you compare DDG against them and would you place him as no 1 from the list above?
How would you compare DDG against them and would you place him as no 1 from the list above?
We won't sell them a virus.
I'd take Mignolet out of that bracket... and Krul too, who yes played well yesterday, but he's on a level below Lloris, DDG, Cech and Begovic, who for me are the top 4 in the country.
No GIF of that punch?
The few games i have seen of Liverpool, Mignolet has done well, i could be wrong but that was my impression.
Both Cech and Hart have made more than a few mistakes of late, and from them all it seems DDG is the steady eddy.
I recall Fergie mentioned DDG was a goal line keeper, but it seems he has gotten stronger, bigger and seems to coming for crosses and punching a lot more than he did 12 months ago.
Astonishing performance from Krul yesterday. I dont watch Newcastle very often, does he play as well as that often? Its hard to compare keepers because it would be rare for DDG to be under that kind of constant pressure, to have so much to do. Having said that, with DDG I am never inclined to break the 10th commandment. Not when it comes to goalkeepers anyway. Though my neighbours' missus would certainly get it.
That punch was insane, he basically cleared the half way line 
Don't feck with De gea
Don't feck with De gea
No. He is a very good shot stopper but yesterday he had the game of his life. Sometimes does make brilliant saves but all round not brilliant.
Flying through the air like a fecking boss these days.
Cech makes the odd mistake here and there, but really he's very dependable and solid for Chelsea between those sticks. He's a massive player for them.
Thing is, DDG will make a mistake at some point (probably this season) because he's a keeper, and all keepers mess up at some point or another... how he bounces back after that will really define him as a top class keeper I would say.
He's already bounced back from a few high profile mistakes as we know, so at least he won't be affected by the pressure or scrutiny.
Just think, if Fergie hadn't arsed around after Schmeichel left and signed VDS in 1999 as he had intended to, we could potentially have gone 30 years with just three goalkeepers.
Probably go Lloris, De Gea, Begovic, Cech on curre
'I hope that's aimed towards Bendtner'
What was De Gea dreaming of when Sagna whipped this beautiful ball in?
'I hope that's aimed towards Bendtner'
He had a tough start at United and got extreme harsh critisism. Yet he seemed rather unfazed and showed his mental strength. That's why for me he's a proper United player. Brilliant
It's very rawkish on here these days. Before yesterday, comforting ourselves with the fact that at least Liverpool won't win the league, even though we could finish behind them. Now, we need to know that DDG is #1 somewhere...in the world, the league, Manchester.....We're a step away from looking for a Golden Glove award for him so we can comfort ourselves some more.
Liverpool, since their realisation that their descent was almost interminable, have looked for solace in such facts (fachts). They have the best gk, the best cbs, the best cm, the best striker blah blah blah but never the best team. United, under Fergie, have almost always been a team that's greater that the sum of it's parts. 1994, 1999, 2013 especially. The underachieving 2001 & wonderful 2008 groups, maybe not, but usually they are.
I think De Gea is outstanding and sometime last season he seemed to shake the stress of the pricetag off his shoulders. I remember posting that he was 'fretting less' about slips, not big errors, just the small ones and that he was taking them on the chin. I don't give a feck where he ranks in the world. I didn't care with either Schmeichel or VDS either. When you have a goalkeeper that is playing as well as he is right now, the confidence this gives his back four is invaluable.
Where United are now, is below where I want them to be. Moyes seems to be gaining (cautious) confidence from this unbeaten run and it's no harm to help him sell his view. Players will leave and Moyes will gradually mould the team as his own. So many of this team are winners and that winning mentality must be transferred to Moyes, because he will have to instill it in his own team, in time. If United win the league this year, it will be one of the greatest wins. If we don't, I hope the players use it to push on and drive for #21 next year. When Chelsea were dominating in the mid-noughties, Neville was saying that the bar had been raised so United had to strive to reach those new heights. United won a League Cup - a competition we wouldn't have pissed on for years and I believe that Fergie was making sure the players had a taste for winning through that tough time. An FA cup was secured in 2004, amid jeers that we well celebrating mediocrity. It was all part of a bigger plan.
This run we're on is so important now. Cardiff & Spurs A, Everton & Newcastle H, Villa A, West Ham H, Hull A, Norwich A, Spurs H brings us to New Years Day. Let's see what this team, what Moyes, what DDG are all about now. It's not enough that De Gea is #1 gk in the world. He must be also playing for United, when they're top of the table, best in Europe.
Liverpool, since their realisation that their descent was almost interminable, have looked for solace in such facts (fachts). They have the best gk, the best cbs, the best cm, the best striker blah blah blah but never the best team. United, under Fergie, have almost always been a team that's greater that the sum of it's parts. 1994, 1999, 2013 especially. The underachieving 2001 & wonderful 2008 groups, maybe not, but usually they are.
I think De Gea is outstanding and sometime last season he seemed to shake the stress of the pricetag off his shoulders. I remember posting that he was 'fretting less' about slips, not big errors, just the small ones and that he was taking them on the chin. I don't give a feck where he ranks in the world. I didn't care with either Schmeichel or VDS either. When you have a goalkeeper that is playing as well as he is right now, the confidence this gives his back four is invaluable.
Where United are now, is below where I want them to be. Moyes seems to be gaining (cautious) confidence from this unbeaten run and it's no harm to help him sell his view. Players will leave and Moyes will gradually mould the team as his own. So many of this team are winners and that winning mentality must be transferred to Moyes, because he will have to instill it in his own team, in time. If United win the league this year, it will be one of the greatest wins. If we don't, I hope the players use it to push on and drive for #21 next year. When Chelsea were dominating in the mid-noughties, Neville was saying that the bar had been raised so United had to strive to reach those new heights. United won a League Cup - a competition we wouldn't have pissed on for years and I believe that Fergie was making sure the players had a taste for winning through that tough time. An FA cup was secured in 2004, amid jeers that we well celebrating mediocrity. It was all part of a bigger plan.
This run we're on is so important now. Cardiff & Spurs A, Everton & Newcastle H, Villa A, West Ham H, Hull A, Norwich A, Spurs H brings us to New Years Day. Let's see what this team, what Moyes, what DDG are all about now. It's not enough that De Gea is #1 gk in the world. He must be also playing for United, when they're top of the table, best in Europe.
What was De Gea dreaming of when Sagna whipped this beautiful ball in?
He was standing in the right place. When a cross comes in your first duty, as a keeper, is to cover the near post. It would have been too risky in the crowd of players to dive out to try and claim the cross at the near post so all he could do is try and cover it, as he did. Had be been standing over the other side of the goal and someone came and got a free header into an open goal at the near post we'd then have something to complain about. But here he's done nothing you wouldn't expect any keeper to do.
How often, when a ball is played in from a similar place, do you see a goalkeeper standing anywhere near the far post or even in the middle of the goal?
I'm not entirely sure what your point is here; are you saying that because, as a team, we're not doing as well as we might hope, that we're not supposed to lay praise on individual players?
The fact is that there are plenty of people who think our keeper is the best in the league, and it's hardly unusual for conversations to take place as to where a player falls in the legion of players in the world in his position, so talk of him being 'top 3' or 'top 5' or whatever in the world isn't exactly strange or bad either.
What does RAWK have to do with anything? 'RAWKish' seems to have become almost a 'fits all situations' dig at fan behaviour someone doesn't like.
I don't think many, if any, people who are discussing how good DDG is are doing so to 'comfort' themselves because Liverpool are ahead of us in the league. I also don't think many, if any, expect that to be the case at the end of the season. They are simply enjoying the rise and fantastic form of a young United goalkeeper who took a lot of undeserved shit in his first few years with us.
I didn't need that much detail into a post to explain that part of his play, mate. I was referring to how slow his reaction was when the ball was whipped in.
It seemed he thought Evans was able to cover it with ease, but completely missed the header and de Gea was slow to react to this. Lapse of concentration there
I revel in the fact that De Gea has torn apart the media witch hunt. It was actually horrendous, more so last season. Every goal we would concede, wankers like Hansen and Lawrenson would sit there and break it down, on a television show watched by millions, to specify what exactly De Gea could have done better. The fact that the golden boy at the Etihad has finally been exposed for what he really is makes it all the better. Bitter? Perhaps, but I love it.
At no point did I or many others doubt the guy and we're all reaping the rewards. It was so obvious, because the one thing he had to improve at is perhaps the easiest thing to actually improve. Bulk up and practice. No biggie.
At no point did I or many others doubt the guy and we're all reaping the rewards. It was so obvious, because the one thing he had to improve at is perhaps the easiest thing to actually improve. Bulk up and practice. No biggie.
And punching out
You're not the only one.
Every time he punched the ball some fecking idiot would start chirping about how "De Gea looked uncomfortable in the air" when it was a good piece of goalkeeping.
The "well we know he's a good shotstopper" remark after every good save to justify their criticism also got on my tits.
sums up my thoughts on this too.
Given how he was slaughtered by the media it's galling how Hart being dropped has been treated as some kind of unfortunate thing. I remember Neville ripping De Gea to shreds over something very minor and yet the most I ever remember for Hart's catalogue of feck-ups have been mild "should to better than that" comments. It's not just Neville either. If De Gea was responsible for half of Hart's mistakes he'd be run out of the country by now let alone with a sympathetic 'maybe it's for the best' hearing in the media.
I'd give it two weeks before there's a campaign to get Hart back between the sticks. Guarantee that Pantilimon will only have to slightly misjudge something and all Hart's mates in Fleet Street will start the campaign going again.
I'd give it two weeks before there's a campaign to get Hart back between the sticks. Guarantee that Pantilimon will only have to slightly misjudge something and all Hart's mates in Fleet Street will start the campaign going again.
It was quite funny yesterday when Tyler said something like "The other Manchester goalkeeper is keeping the media spotlight off de Gea....and his performances, of course".
It's like Tyler's been watching matches on his Sky+ and is still a year and a half behind.
It's like Tyler's been watching matches on his Sky+ and is still a year and a half behind.
I'll tell you exactly which moment that was. Tottenham away, didn't clear the ball well enough and led to a last minute equaliser, Neville got all over that saying it was pretty much all de Gea's fault rather than any of our defenders. It wasn't a great clearance no, but to say it was all his fault was clearly idiotic when he goes and defends Hart's mistake against Chelsea with all guns blazing. I think Neville is brilliant as an analyst, but his assessments of both de Gea and Hart of present and past have been extremely unbalanced due to his England National team ties.
Michael Owen criticized Neville for criticizing DDG way OTT.
Neville thinks with his heart on De Gea and his head with Joe Hart
Look how tired Anderson gets
What a chubbo
after 30 secs he looked knackered and was literally falling over during one of his kicks.....a bit of an embarrassment that a professional footballer can get breathless after a few seconds workout.
Aye that was it, the Spurs game.
To be fair to his critics, De Gea did have a torrid time of it at first but it's a testament to his character how he's responded to that. He's quietly got on with it and over time has shut them up. Compare that to Hart who thought he was Billy Big Bollocks for the last two years more concerned with having a laugh and raising his profile rather than concentrating on his game.
I've said before if you ignore the attributes of each individual and just focus on their attitude/mentality - give De Gea the attitude of Hart and you'd have a far inferior keeper but give Hart the attitude of De Gea and you'll have a much improved one
There's nothing slow about it. He waits at the near post in case of deflection from the two centre backs, shuffles over to the centre of the goal and had Bendnter made contact De Gea is travelling in the right direction and would be able to dive for the ball.
I agree, De Gea is the best keeper in the world.
And still can't get near the Spain team
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