David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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De Gea's escaped criticism today because of how bad everyone else was, but he was really poor. They had five shots on target, and four went in. Two he could do little about, but the second two were both near enough to him to be saved. Unconvincing from corners too.
 
The only one he might have done better with was their 3rd but even that's being harsh. Not his fault
 
Liam147 said:
De Gea's escaped criticism today because of how bad everyone else was, but he was really poor. They had five shots on target, and four went in. Two he could do little about, but the second two were both near enough to him to be saved. Unconvincing from corners too.
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The overreaction here is laughable. De Gea could have done better only on one of the goals. Your logic is flawed.
 
Liam147 said:
De Gea's escaped criticism today because of how bad everyone else was, but he was really poor. They had five shots on target, and four went in. Two he could do little about, but the second two were both near enough to him to be saved. Unconvincing from corners too.
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This is a bit of a piss take right? Those two "saveable shots" could be saved by any goalie, it's just how lucky they are to get a foot or hand to the ball. They come so fast at you you can only rely on luck or some fluke reaction to get it. His job would have been much easier had he had a competent defense ahead of him
 
MoneyMay said:
The overreaction here is laughable. De Gea could have done better only on one of the goals. Your logic is flawed.
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Red Shorts said:
This is a bit of a piss take right? Those two "saveable shots" could be saved by any goalie, it's just how lucky they are to get a foot or hand to the ball. They come so fast at you you can only rely on luck or some fluke reaction to get it. His job would have been much easier had he had a competent defense ahead of him
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Nah, I think he's escaping a bit of criticism today. I have a feeling that De Gea on top form keeps at least on of these out (perhaps not Nasri's), but that failure to impose himself at corners didn't help either.

I'd also like to stress that I'm not blaming him for the defeat, merely pointing out that he was another of the poor performers.
 
Liam147 said:
Nah, I think he's escaping a bit of criticism today. I have a feeling that De Gea on top form keeps at least on of these out (perhaps not Nasri's), but that failure to impose himself at corners didn't help either.
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He did impose himself on corners. He punched the ball twice. For Yaya Toure's goal, Ferdinand was at fault for not following him, and Smalling/Fellaini were also at fault for not heading the ball out of the penalty area.
 
I thought he was decent on corners, a couple of good punches and don't think he flapped at anything. Nothing he could do for 3 of their goals, may have saved Aguero's second but it was a difficult save to make from such a close distance.
 
That save from the Gerrard cross shot was great. Did the job well, that's all you can ask.
 
Do we have a gif of the save from Henderson's shot/cross? He obviously wasn't expecting it but reacted well, it was a difficult save I believe.

And yeah his distribution is really top notch. Not enough is being made of this, it's excellent.
 
I love Big Dave! He's become one of my favourite United players. Tremendous goalkeeper, just hope he doesn't think about going back to Spain anytime soon.
 
Mignolet looks to be a very good shotstopper but David distribution is world class. Best distribution bar none. Add to his reflexes and shot dropping he really is world class.
 
Liam147 said:
De Gea's escaped criticism today because of how bad everyone else was, but he was really poor. They had five shots on target, and four went in. Two he could do little about, but the second two were both near enough to him to be saved. Unconvincing from corners too.
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What the feck is wrong with you? :rolleyes:
 
akash02 said:
The only one he might have done better with was their 3rd but even that's being harsh. Not his fault
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Aguero's second he was so close to an amazing save. Pretty much point blank volley (~8 yards) it was always going to be tough. I still feel that he is inhibited by his need to stay inside his six yard box when Rio and Vidic are playing. It's obvious that he has a problem communicating with Vidic as they always tangle, get in each others way, call for the ball but gaffe it sometimes.

It's as though Rio and Vidic both are uncomfortable with De Gea and just do stupid 'no nonsense' things instead of reading the situation because of a pre-conceived need to do so through their general distrust. It is very reminiscent of early VDS's adaptation, just 'feck it, we can't take risks at all, we aren't even going to try'.

Against Liverpool he was a bit more free to move into his area and attack crosses. Did so... Well, if not spectacularly. The next two or three years will be interesting when Rio and Vidic are finally transitioning out of the side I hope that Smalling/Evans/Jones and whoever can really strike up a rapport with him.
 
Vidic needs to get a grip and grow up. He doesn't trust De Gea with the ball at his feet, despite his obvious quality on the ball. Though Young/Ferdinand were culpable for Sturridge's goal against us at Anfield, it was Vidic who made things harder by not passing it back to De Gea. It's recurring...
 
David de Gea's struggles adapting to life in England are laid bare in a revealing interview that offers a rare insight into the problems theManchester United goalkeeper has encountered and the frustrations he caused their coaching staff.

Eric Steele, the goalkeeping coach widely credited with De Gea's improvement, talks about a goalkeeper who is "lazy" when it comes to learning English and initially had a habit of "training poorly", as well as eating "too many tacos". Asked whether the player is now more settled in Manchester, after intermittent rumours of him wanting to return to Spain, Steele says the 22-year-old understands he is at a good club but there are "still issues".
Steele left Old Trafford after David Moyes's appointment in the summer, having been instrumental in De Gea's development since Sir Alex Ferguson signed him from Atlético Madrid for £17.8m two years earlier. His pride is apparent as he talks of the Spaniard's transformation into the goalkeeper voted on to the Professional Footballers' Association team of the year last season. "Calmness, composure and inner strength. Nothing fazes him. Playing in front of 76,000? No problem. Very few possess that."
Yet Steele, an almost paternal figure for De Gea, openly admits the goalkeeper has had considerable issues at Old Trafford. "His first six months were horrendous," he says. "One issue with him was that he was just 71 kilos. We worked with him on and off the field to make him more powerful. We changed his lifestyle. He would finish training and want to go home. When I told him to come back in the afternoon he'd ask: 'Why?'
"There were lifestyle issues. He'd sleep two or three times a day. He'd have his main meal late at night. He'd eat too many tacos. We pushed protein drinks on him straight after training. We physically made him drink. We had him in the gym a lot. He hated it. They don't do the gym in Spain as much. We needed to build his core strength."
De Gea, according to Steele, could "be very solemn in training, he was always better in a group. Solemn because he was tired, mentally and physically. I told him he needed to train better, that he was on show every day. There were times in his first season when he trained poorly. I told him that players made decisions for managers, not the other way around. That he should be first, not last out for training."
Steele goes to explain why he started taking Spanish lessons rather than relying on De Gea to improve his English. "We needed to be able to communicate with each other straight away, even if it was just the basic terms. David is lazy in his desire to learn English. So I learned. I kept telling him to work on his English."
De Gea, he says, is "well-liked" at Old Trafford, a "part of the Hispanic set with their own sense of humour", and is still taking English lessons. He identifies the turning point as a save against Juan Mata during a 3-3 draw at Stamford Bridge, seven months into his first season, and there is praise for Ferguson for persevering with him. "Fans criticised him [De Gea]. The media, too. But the manager stuck by him and protected him in the media. He knew he had a long-term asset. He was only 19 and that was a risk, but the manager had been to watch him with me and knew how good he was."
De Gea has subsequently been linked with a return to Spain amid rumours of homesickness. "I heard the speculation," Steele tells the latest edition of United We Stand fanzine, published before the 2-1 defeat against West Brom. "I told him not to get sidetracked, that if he did well at United then he'd have a great career. I said: 'Who would you go back to? One of the big two. Would you want to go to Real, rivals of Atlético?' No. It would have to be Barcelona, but he sees that United has been good for him. He captained Spain Under-21s in the summer off the back of his United form. He's going to be with the seniors now in a country with the best goalkeepers in the world."
To the question of whether De Gea is more settled now, Steele replies: "Yes, but there are still issues. He's living in a huge house with his mum and dad. He's got a beautiful girlfriend who lives in Barcelona. We pushed him to move on his own. Living with your parents helps and hinders."
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/28/david-de-gea-manchester-united

I know this has been discussed a bit, but given that Steele knows him well it does give an insight into him. The bolded bits are probably the bits people won't want to hear so much.
 
Very interesting. The less than optimal lifestyle and training could be why Lindegaard got so many chances when it seemed like DDG should have always stayed with a run in the team based on matchdays
 
Vato1979 said:
He'll replace that clown Valdes in the summer. Sad but true.
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FCBarca reckons his passing isnt good enough for them. :lol:

Think he was only saying that because he thought that their was never a chance of him joining them.
 
I wouldnt be too worried about what Steele says. Hardly likely to be a happy camper after Moyes letting him go.
 
So, almost October. As an ex-keeper, good saves tend to stick in my memory. Was just trying to remember if he's made any special saves so far this season. Pick of the bunch probably the Moses header but it was straight at him. Can't think of anything really special. Which is a little odd when you compare him with keepers at the other big team, who have all made some cracking saves. Has he just been unlucky that every shot has picked out a corner? Should we expect more from him?

Genuinely curious. I really rate him but it is a bit odd that we seem to conced with every clear shot on our goal. Anyone know how his shot:save % compares to the best of the rest?
 
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