Our resident gooner gets it bang on the money.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Our resident gooner gets it bang on the money.
DDG really should have done better for the first goal. The shot wasn't particularly great and unlike last week he had the time to actually react and push it away from danger. You could tell he wasn't happy with himself about it as well, which is good to see. He did look a bit nervous after that moment, but had a decent game other than that. Couldn't do anything for the OG and not much he could do about the third goal either. That one was taken very well.
It looked strange to me, it didn't look like he was really troubled by the shot, it was almost as if he completely misjudged what he was trying to do with it, either planning on palming it out to Rio and didn't realise Perch was there or assumed he would get greater distance and power on the ball.
Some of us appear to be playing way too much video football.
This is no video game, my friends.
This is no video game, my friends.
I've just caught the Adam Johnson goal on the day's highlights and some people still insist of defecating on De Gea. Unfukkingbelievable.
I could only imagine how much panic there would be on this forum had De Gea made anywhere near as many blunders as Joe Hart this season.
We'd have a nuclear meltdown here on the caf. The moronic British tabloids would be in total ecstasy. Darke and Macca would be giving each other handjobs.
But of course there will hardly any mention of Hart or other keeper foibles today.
I thought the same. It felt like he had plenty of time to deal with it and just ended up making the wrong decision in the end or was slightly caught out by something at the very last moment.
How many games will he get benched for this time? I'm gunna go with.....3.
He's not gonna get benched.
That's all well and good, but what's it got to do with De Gea's error yesterday?
I'm firmly in the De Gea should be our #1 camp by the way. Dropping him for things like that though (and much smaller) is in line with Fergie's Goalkeeper rotation policy over this last 18 months.
EDIT: Erm... where did that post go?
Crazy, isn't it?
Hart has hardly been mentioned in reports, as a reason to City's defeat. Even on Bluemoon, they are blaming every player but him.
I'm clearly from the future...
I was expecting Lindegaard to start one of the home games anyway so it wouldn't be a big surprise to see DDG on the bench come Saturday.
Definitely poor keeping for the Perch goal because it wasn't a hard shot.
But the defending for the Cisse goal!!! Rio defends like a novice, Smalling seemed to give up trying to defend the cross, and Cisse left with time to smash the ball in.
There comes a point when we have to question what the hell is being worked on defensively (the defenders and DDG/Lindegaard have already been rightly castigated) when this malaise has been going on for so long.
But the defending for the Cisse goal!!! Rio defends like a novice, Smalling seemed to give up trying to defend the cross, and Cisse left with time to smash the ball in.
There comes a point when we have to question what the hell is being worked on defensively (the defenders and DDG/Lindegaard have already been rightly castigated) when this malaise has been going on for so long.
4.45 - David De Gea has made more saves per game than any other goalkeeper in the Premier League this season. Busy.
I watched De Gea performance again and he was at fault for the first goal and why he seemed to misjudge the Ameobi shot.
De Gea has fantastic reflexes - he is very very quick and in both cases - the goal and Ameobi shot he was down too quickly. In the first instance he had more time than he expected and instead of palming it round he just pushed it back. The Ameobi shot was similar he had made the distance too quickly so like when you stretch and then retract back thats when the ball went past.
To summarise De Gea will react faster and at times it will look like he has misjudged the shot only because its lost some speed over the ground - this does not happen very often and so be glad when you need his speed its available.
De Gea has fantastic reflexes - he is very very quick and in both cases - the goal and Ameobi shot he was down too quickly. In the first instance he had more time than he expected and instead of palming it round he just pushed it back. The Ameobi shot was similar he had made the distance too quickly so like when you stretch and then retract back thats when the ball went past.
To summarise De Gea will react faster and at times it will look like he has misjudged the shot only because its lost some speed over the ground - this does not happen very often and so be glad when you need his speed its available.
I did laugh at MOTD. They had a 3/4 minute long segment or De Gea, and Hart received "it was a mistake" and then they moved on 
I did laugh at MOTD. They had a 3/4 minute long segment or De Gea, and Hart received "it was a mistake" and then they moved on
only after Lineker forced them to say so as well..
The way they pile on the lad is pathetic, but I suppose it would be the same for any United goalkeeper that comes in without a solid reputation built up over years in the PL.
De Gea is 22 years old, playing for the biggest club in the country- of course he's going to make mistakes, every player does- but he is improving. He's getting better at commanding his box and dealing with crosses (well, he was good at dealing with crosses in Spain, I should say dealing with the physicality of PL players), ok he's still inconsistent but he's getting there. He's maturing nicely.
Should have done better with the first goal yesterday, a completely different scenario to last week, and one where I wouldn't deny any criticism of him.
He's going to be immense though, as he matures.
He's going to be immense though, as he matures.
You can bench both De Gea and Lindegaard and put Amos there and it will be no big difference as the problem lies in organisation of defense.
Big Dave is our number 1 and I hope, it stays that way. Soon there will be West Ham clash in FA Cup, so there will be time for some rotation, anyway.
Big Dave is our number 1 and I hope, it stays that way. Soon there will be West Ham clash in FA Cup, so there will be time for some rotation, anyway.
I did laugh at MOTD. They had a 3/4 minute long segment or De Gea, and Hart received "it was a mistake" and then they moved on
Yep, at least De Gea actually saved the shot!
Hart's was just plain ridiculous, letting that Johnson shot slip in from so far out. was a shocker.
I'm more concerned that he seems to be glued to his 6 yard box when balls come over the top, rather than this error. 4-5 times vs Swansea and Newcastle I expected him to be at the edge if his area ready to collect balls over the top, but each time the defenders had to deal with it as he didn't move from his line.
Hopefully it's just a confidence thing.
Hopefully it's just a confidence thing.
I did laugh at MOTD. They had a 3/4 minute long segment or De Gea, and Hart received "it was a mistake" and then they moved on
You guys do not live on planet Earth. They spoke for 11 seconds about it while analysing the first goal. It's no wonder you think there's a media agenda against him when you multiply the amount of criticism he's getting by a factor of 18.I'm gunna time it when I get home and get to the bottom of this...
Some of these are posts are shocking.
Yes, De Gea has set a very high bar and we expect perfection, but even perfect play can't contain every shot on goal. The other day De Gea was flogged for not parrying the Swansea shot out wide or over the bar even though the shot itself was low and toward the far post. Yesterday the shot was not nearly to handle as some are claiming here. The ball was heavy and slick and was not a good candidate for a clean catch.
Sure, you can always ask more of a keeper in this situation but you also have to ask more of defenders too. They can't allow space for poachers. So if we must insist on berating De Gea, at least lay some of the heat on the defenders too.
Yes, De Gea has set a very high bar and we expect perfection, but even perfect play can't contain every shot on goal. The other day De Gea was flogged for not parrying the Swansea shot out wide or over the bar even though the shot itself was low and toward the far post. Yesterday the shot was not nearly to handle as some are claiming here. The ball was heavy and slick and was not a good candidate for a clean catch.
Sure, you can always ask more of a keeper in this situation but you also have to ask more of defenders too. They can't allow space for poachers. So if we must insist on berating De Gea, at least lay some of the heat on the defenders too.
^^ Care to point out the shocking posts. Because I haven't seen any. Not in relation to the Newcastle game anyway. He should have done much beter.
Ruud, yes the conditions were horrible for a goalkeeper but with the distance the ball travelled and at it's pace (it was not the greatest strike in the world) and the fact he got a full palm to it- he needed to push the ball further and wider.
Made a mistake, but they probably would of scored 3 regardless so meh.
He should have done better with the first goal, but I think he can be forgiven considering the playing conditions and the pitch surface. On the whole I thought he did very well, there was a shot where it skidded towards him, he stopped it but spilt it slightly and then collected it. The commentator said "De Gea spills it again, he looks shaky" and Macca (to his credit) explained that he did the right thing by initially stopping it, and then collecting it.
He should have dealt with it better, and he will know it. Not a howler though like a few people said. He just misjudged it a bit. 9 times out of 10 a defender would have cleared the ball. Unfortunately it led to a goal. He looked pissed off at himself because he knows he's better than that, but apart from this one moment he had quite a solid game.
Every goalkeeper should catch every shot ever, according to that muppet.
at first sight is quite clear that he made a mistake for their first. However, the pace of the ball and the fact the initial shot was bit surprising didn't help.
nothing he could've done for the second or third.
nothing he could've done for the second or third.
He made a "parrying" mistake, as you like to point out, for the first goal - no doubt.
I think the "exaggeration" between the time spent analysing DDG compared with Hart is nevertheless indicative of the palpable prejudice against DDG and the love-in when it comes to Hart.
DDG needs to sort out some technical faults but our defence is well and truly fecked at the moment and DDG and Lindegaard are only part of that. I would actually say both the keepers have been the lesser of the evils.
Hart is a bit overrated in my view, but its no surprise given that he's English and a very good goalkeeper. It has no relation to De Gea though, and it certainly doesn't warrant making up bullshit to fuel crackpot conspiracy theories about Match of the Day or the media at large trying to wreck his career. There's no unfair prejudice against De Gea, he's just not a world class keeper.
He's still looked far more of a world class keeper than say Joe Hart this season.
I don't think there's been many better keepers than De Gea in the league this season.
His form will only come with being played not rested continuously.
Vidic being poor is no surprise. He's been injured for basically a year and a half. Let's give him a fighting chance shall we?
Joe Hart is not overrated. You're simply being biased. He's utterly brilliant to be frank.
Hart is over rated.
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