David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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kietotheworld said:
If you think I have its probably because you over rate his abilities.
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Nar mate. I call it how it is and today he made a poor parry where he could've done better. As I said above, he also made a poor punch to concede a corner where he could've just caught the ball.

No keeper that isn't Neo from the Matrix can do anything other than instinctively parry a ball that is smashed at him from 6 yards and that it where you obviously have an issue. Ask yourself why so many who defended him and thought you were being a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime the other day are agreeing with you today? it's not blind faith, it's people calling it as it is, and the other day, you were so very wrong.
 
i would give DDG some slack, considering the weather and pitch conditions but i think it all started with Chica's heavy pass to Carrick.
 
I was very disappointed when De Gea parried the ball direct to an opposing player again, there's nobody who wants him to succeed more than I do.
 
I thought Darke and Macca were going to spray their jizz in each other's faces after the first Newcastle goal.

Truth is, the ball was heavy and slick and that was not easy ball for the keeper to calmly collect. I doubt Casillas or Buffon would have done any better on the play.
 
Ruud10 said:
Truth is, the ball was heavy and slick and that was not easy ball for the keeper to calmly collect. I doubt Casillas or Buffon would have done any better on the play.
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Yeah the conditions were tough but a top keeper with that much time between the strike and it reaching him should adjust and push it wider. Kietotheworld is being a clown by linking this with the one last week.. why not throw in the Man City one just to make a real pattern..
 
DDG still fails at the basics... he could be a top keeper but is still far from it... my two cents...
 
It was a difficult scenario for DDG on that first goal.

He probably should of had his angles better and let the ball run wide, but he couldn't really take that chance. He was on full stretch to reach it and it was running along a wet floor, he was probably scared he would let it go if he tried catching it.

unfortunately for him he's pushed it into the area of an oncoming player, on any other day he would have pushed it wide then collected It, but today it was good following in by perch, that's really all you can say.
 
Drainy said:
Yeah the conditions were tough but a top keeper with that much time between the strike and it reaching him should adjust and push it wider. Kietotheworld is being a clown by linking this with the one last week.. why not throw in the Man City one just to make a real pattern..
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It is a pattern, the City one in combination with the Swansea one was how I noticed it, I was shown to be right today.
kouroux said:
yeah fecking right ....
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Do you think I want him to fail? There's nothing I want more than a reliable goalkeeper, and if he's a great shot stopper as well that's fantastic.
 
For what it's worth, De Gea is now the top rated goalkeeper in the Premier League on Whoscored
What statistics go into that rating, I'm not sure.
 
Stop making excuses for De Gea, it's as cringeworthy as the people riding the "foreign keeper" narrative still despite him being excellent this season.

Today was a howler. No two-ways about it, no excuses, it was horrible goalkeeping from an easy shot.

Doesn't take away from the fact he's comfortably our best GK and his work in the area is improving by the day.
 
kietotheworld said:
It is a pattern, the City one in combination with the Swansea one was how I noticed it, I was shown to be right today
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Every incident should be judged on the individual circumstances. The City and Swansea ones were purely unlucky- reflex saves that deflected in an unfortunate direction, trying to say "that's three parries that went to the strikers, that's three mistakes" is simplistic and incorrect logic
 
Some people just have a socio-pathological need to take a dump on De Gea every chance imaginable.

It comes with the turf for a keeper whose transfer was around 20m (a record, I believe), plays for United (perennial champion), plays for a club which has had some dodgy keepers in its post-Schmikes past (Taibi, Bosnich, Barthez, Carroll, Foster, among others) and is a foreigner in a country which prides itself on its history of great keepers (too many to list here).

Shameful, especially that a chunk of that abuse come from United fans, but it is what it is.
 
It was certainly a mistake. On the close up replay, you can see his face scrunch up as he palms it he knows he got it wrong.

First shot of the game without knowing the conditions, i wouldn't expect him to try to hold it. He should atleast push it to the side, if not behind but he catches it full on the palm. Later in the game, with his angles set, he probably lets it run wide. Again im quite confident with what i remember him doing, that parrying is not a problem for him.
 
kietotheworld said:
It is a pattern, the City one in combination with the Swansea one was how I noticed it, I was shown to be right today.


Do you think I want him to fail? There's nothing I want more than a reliable goalkeeper, and if he's a great shot stopper as well that's fantastic.
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You do not necessary want him to fail but you surely want to have your criticism of him validated by his mistakes.It's sad
 
He should have done better with the first goal, but rain probably had a part on it. On the Michu goal though, it wasn't his fault at all.

Anyway, it wasn't a that big mistake, I mean he should have saved it better but these things happen. Still, a great keeper and I wouldn't swap him with any keeper in the world.
 
Revan said:
He should have done better with the first goal, but rain probably had a part on it. On the Michu goal though, it wasn't his fault at all.

Anyway, it wasn't a that big mistake, I mean he should have saved it better but these things happen. Still, a great keeper and I wouldn't swap him with any keeper in the world.
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I was all "yeah, yeah totally agree" until the bolded part.. At the moment? Seems a bit over the top to me..
 
marjen said:
Stop making excuses for De Gea, it's as cringeworthy as the people riding the "foreign keeper" narrative still despite him being excellent this season.

Today was a howler. No two-ways about it, no excuses, it was horrible goalkeeping from an easy shot.

Doesn't take away from the fact he's comfortably our best GK and his work in the area is improving by the day.
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No, a howler is when someone does a Taibi or a Roy Carroll. Not when he doesn't push the ball wide enough from a save so a player can't get on to a rebound.
 
He may have thought 'it's going wide', then thought 'no, it isn't', but he was at full stretch when he got a touch, which made it difficult to push the ball anywhere.
 
Revan said:
He should have done better with the first goal, but rain probably had a part on it. On the Michu goal though, it wasn't his fault at all.

Anyway, it wasn't a that big mistake, I mean he should have saved it better but these things happen. Still, a great keeper and I wouldn't swap him with any keeper in the world.
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Finally some sense
 
The first goal is quite bad and he should have done better, but it is nothing to get your knickers in a twist over. Second goal, no chance and it should not have been allowed and the third one comes at him with a wicked pace, shite defending.
 
He made a mistake on the first goal. Definitely needs to improve his handling on those and he'll know it. Still been the best keeper in the league this season.
 
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The first goal was a shocker, he should have caught the ball and immediately pass it to Chicha who would have scored a goal.

The second was an awful. It's truly embarrassing conceding an own goal. No keeper in the league would have conceded it.

The third goal was direct on him. How can a professional keeper concede it. Awful from him.

He should have done better when Newcastle hit the bar and the post. Anyone could save those.

He's worse than Taibi, stick with Lindegaard.

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All goalies make mistakes. Only De Gea's seem to get highlighted. He'll need a few more years in England until it stops probably. Cech has played here for years and makes howlers regularly. Likewise Reina, Howard, Schwarzer etc.
 
verminater said:
Oh did I know what was coming?!
Just because you said it was raining on a sunny day, then it rains another day, doesn't make you an ace meteorologist.

You were still a cnut, getting it wrong on Sunday!
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I didn't get anything wrong, I noticed a pattern of him parrying the ball into dangerous areas a lot and said it was an area in which he needed to improve. Today the pattern continues - do you still think it isn't an area he needs to improve in?
 
kietotheworld said:
I didn't get anything wrong, I noticed a pattern of him parrying the ball into dangerous areas a lot and said it was an area in which he needed to improve. Today the pattern continues - do you still think it isn't an area he needs to improve in?
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It's not an area that needs to improve. Last season he showed that he was very good at pushing the ball wide, 2 reflex saves (one of them being the second of a double save) that he got unlucky with and one goalkeeping error does not a flaw make, no matter how much you wish there was one to justify your irrational position after the last game.
 
No, you annoying git! You said he could've done better against Swansea, and you were wrong.
I'm not going to argue that with you, because you obviously have more persistence than I have.
You were wrong.
If you said it today, instead of Sunday, you'd have a point.
 
Made a mistake for the first goal but other than that I thought he did ok. As with someone so young, he is bound to make errors but its important he gets to play through them and learns. I hope Fergie doesn't drop him for the next one.
 
was not a mistake for first goal just look at the defending three united layers a.) don't close down shot b.)are not aware of perch 3.)don't react when the shot is taken knowing this may be a shot DDG cant hold onto.

Too easy to blame the young keeper who has made mistakes in the past. simple fact if defence were half awake that would have been good save and cleared
 
was not a mistake for first goal just look at the defending three united players a.) don't close down shot b.)are not aware of perch 3.)don't react when the shot is taken knowing this may be a shot DDG cant hold onto.

Too easy to blame the young keeper who has made mistakes in the past. simple fact if defence were half awake that would have been good save and cleared
 
First goal wasn't his finest moment ever, but other then that he had a good game. Dealt with their corners especially well I thought.
 
Justin said:
53", did he call Joe Hart a "retardo" :p
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:lol:

In retardo = Late

In retardo sul tiro di Johnson, aveva lasciato troppo spazio Johnson che e' un gran tiratore....

(Hart is) late on Johnson's shot.. he left too much space to Johnson, who has a great shot....
 
Unlucky with the goal imo, 9 times out of 10 he could of pushed the ball out there and the player running onto it would of either A- would of taken a touch or B- skyed the finish

Possibly should of pushed it wide of the goal but if it had been VDS who did it we wouldn't even be discussing it
 
Shit keeping - should have put it past the post. (Unlike last week when it was hit from 6 yards and he did well to keep it out).
 
Kid Cunto said:
Shocker would be harsh. Wasn't great, looked a bit nervous. The conditions didn't suit. Also, the commentary on ESPN completely, and unfairly, slated him.
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It's crazy, I saw the game on Sky Calcio with Italian commentary, and they highlighted more the Carrick mistake than DDG's in the buildup to first NUFC goal. You'd think Italians know a thing or two about goal keeping / defending.

They did point out that he appeared uncertain later in the game, and some of his punching was not that great..., but he didn't receive the inquisition that gets every week from the British media.

If English pundits would point out every mistake that Valencia, Evans, Evra, Scholes, Hernandez did through either losing the ball or chosing the wrong option alotgether, DDG could have been a candidate for MOTM
 
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