David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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I'm genuinely surprised there are posters who would rather see Lindegaard start.

Ill agree that there isn't a whole lot between the two right now, though I do think De Gea is better, but wouldn't playing the player 6 years younger who is already at a similar level make a whole lot more sense for the future?

When given a run of games last season De Gea was fantastic, you can clearly see his potential. Lindegaard is good yet unremarkable, he'll be a very solid keeper for someone but I can't see him being much more.
 
kietotheworld said:
Lindegaard has made 8 appearances this season with 6 in the League, De Gea has made 11, also with 6 in the League.


It's not a question of understanding football, it's a question of living inside or outside a bubble in which every De Gea mistake or lapse is retroactively altered to being completely unavoidable, and every game he plays is described as exceptional. Your 12 year old probably agreed with you because either A) You brow beat him into it by constantly telling him how great De Gea is or B) because he couldn't be arsed arguing with you.

If Ferguson is putting an older inferior goalkeeper in the team for nearly half of our matches in order to satiate a love for rotation rather than because he thinks he's better then I'd question his sanity. He has never rotated goalkeepers when one of them was clearly better than the other in his career, the only rational explanation is that he thinks Lindegaard is better but doesn't want to hurt De Gea's development too much by making him a bench warmer.
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That geniuinely made me laugh :lol:

Sorry for snapping at you earlier (not that I'm calmer) but I honestly think you're really wrong about DDG.I'm not one his biggest fans like you imply I'm and I even like Lindegaard.
I'm happy that we have two keepers of decent levels with one of them being more promising than the other.I think you're completely harsh on DDG when you're deeming him weaker than Lindegaard because it that was the case then Lindegaard would have been guaranteed all the big and important matches and DDG the weaker ones (against lower half table teams or in the CC/FA Cup).
DDG has accomplished more than Lindegaard as a keeper while being a lot younger and it is obvious for fans or not that he's the future and is currently not weaker than Lindegaard.
 
Brwned said:
Pogue made a good point on that last year that it probably has something to do with the fact that goalkeepers have to be better footballers nowadays following the change in the backpass rule - in 1992, so De Gea's one of the first generations to grow up with it - so they're focussing more of their time on their footwork and spending less time being nasty bastards, sticking their knees and elbows out and bullying the outfield players. Seems plausible.
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This is very true.

Vato1979 said:
Anyone else thinks that kietotheworld is Lindegaard himself posting on the caf?
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:lol:
 
No way Lindegaard should be our no 1. De Gea is our first choice goalkeeper, as he will be in the future as well.
 
Peter Schmeichel hails mental strength of Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea


Schmeichel: "I admire David. I cannot remember anyone coming into Manchester United and being criticised the way he was."

"He was ridiculed every day. He was the subject of every debate in the media. Yet he still went out there with a smile on his face and managed to dig himself out of it."

"Very slowly he is working his way away from what people thought of him 18 months ago.

"You haven't seen him defend himself in the media or shifting the blame elsewhere. He just gets on with it.

"He is young. At 22 he has things to learn but, mentally, there is definitely material there."
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Orton said:
Nobody in our team bar a few players get continuity, which is a shame. De Gea was playing well before he missed the Norwich game. The only players that have been regulars so far this season are Rafael, Evra, Rio, Carrick and RVP. Our keeper changes all the time, half of our defence was out injured/in and out the side, the midfield is forever changing and likewise with the strikers (Rooney's injury played a part)

I just think Fergie likes rotation a bit too much.
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DDG was injured before the Norwich game(wisdom tooth removal) but yeah let's blame Ferguson for that.
 
Have been meaning to post this since the game on Saturday. But remember a few weeks ago when De Gea was getting criticised for using his feet to make saves.

I personally don't care how the ball is kept out as long as it is, surely Lindegaard would have been better of blocking Dyer's pull back with his feet rather than trying to get down quickly from point blank range?

I'm not a keeper so would be interested to hear what others think.
 
KM said:
DDG was injured before the Norwich game(wisdom tooth removal) but yeah let's blame Ferguson for that.
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Wait, did I blame him for that? De Gea could have played against QPR no? They have both played about an equal amount of league games, which shows they are both being rotated, like several other positions in our side.
 
To be fair he may have had some minor complications from the extraction that prohibited him playing against QPR.
 
It might be slightly perverse to question what David de Gea is doing sitting on Manchester United's bench after Anders Lindegaard kept a clean sheet in the 1-0 win over West Ham but let's do it anyway. What is David de Gea doing sitting on Manchester United's bench? De Gea certainly has his faults – especially his ability to deal with crosses – but he pulls off saves that other goalkeepers can only dream of making and has kept United in matches on his own at times this season. Although Lindegaard made a good stop to deny Carlton Cole, he was not overworked by West Ham, whose best efforts mostly went high or wide. The Dane is a good goalkeeper but De Gea is a special one.

- Jacob Steinberg
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Interesting little snippet from the Guardian sports blog here, nice to read some praise for once. I like Anders but I think David should be first choice.
 
I can see why lindegaard may have been picked for the west ham game, he dealt in the air really well. But De Gea should be reinstated after that game.
 
The Dane is a good goalkeeper but De Gea is a special one.
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Agree with the above quote. Lindegaard is a solid GK but DDG has the potential to be great and he has already shown his talents by making saves which have won us games.

De Gea might start against reading but my concern is that he will try too hard to impress and will give a dodgy performance. A bit like when he played at Newcastle where he didn't look as assured as he does when he has a run of games.

It's no coincidence his best performances have come when he has been given an extended run in the side. We should stop rotating and stick with DDG as #1 for all games.
 
This is a bit like Rafael's situation on the right back. He showed great potential but was rotated in and out for quite a while before he started to settle. I really hope that's what we are seeing here too as I believe DDG is the better, overall, keeper.

Patience and all that.
 
Adam-Utd said:
I can see why lindegaard may have been picked for the west ham game, he dealt in the air really well. But De Gea should be reinstated after that game.
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He did? Two balls he punched that you'd expect him to catch. He did no better than DDG would have. I actually thought during the game that the one thing that Anders was supposedly better at he was certainly not showing in that West Ham game. He was under little pressure all game.
 
I think his boxing was fine.

Based on this season's appearances I'd say that Lindegaard has been better. SAF can keep in goal for what I care.
 
I can't believe anyone thinks Lindegaard is a better keeper than DDG. And the notion that SAF plays him to keep him sweet is ludicrous. I'd rather he go than have DDG unhappy and lose confidence.

Lindegaard is at best a journeyman goalkeeper.
 
David De Gea admits the pressure of being a goalkeeper for Manchester United is more intense than at other clubs, but the Spaniard insists he is relishing the challenge.

The former Atletico Madrid stopper has been exposed to close scrutiny since moving to Old Trafford in 2011 as a long-term replacement for the retired Edwin van der Sar, despite producing a series of impressive performances throughout his 51-match career with the Reds.

The good form of Anders Lindegaard, who has impressed whenever called upon, has also sparked debate over who is Sir Alex Ferguson’s first choice this season. Thankfully, De Gea is enjoying the competition and hopes to produce his best form as a result.

“I’m at a huge club and there are big demands on you,” David told United Review. “As a goalkeeper I’m well aware that any mistake can be magnified by the press and the fans. That’s always the case for goalkeepers, no matter where you play.

“But it’s true that here at Manchester United there’s added pressure. It’s bigger than it was for me at Atletico Madrid and also for the Spain Under-21 team. It’s a challenge that’s enjoyable and it ensures you’re always striving to operate at 100 per cent.”

United have conceded the first goal in 13 matches this season, salvaging a victory from eight of those games. It's a worrying habit, yet it also highlights the never-say-die attribute that has helped define Sir Alex’s 26-year reign.

Although such comebacks are typical of United, De Gea has been surprised by the frequency of turnarounds - admitting he loves being a part of a team with so much self-belief.

“I have been surprised. Certainly, when I was in Spain I’d heard about this aspect and seen for myself on TV the way the team always seemed to conjure up a late goal to either draw or win matches. So it’s great to be a part of it myself.

“I think dramatic comebacks are part of the heart and soul of this club and it’s almost written in the history of Manchester United that these sorts of things happen so often. I love being a part of it and experiencing it for myself.”
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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-relishing-the-United-challenge.aspx?pageNo=2
 
De Gea's got a great attitude in fairness. Just further reinforces my belief it's just Sir Alex challenging him mentally.

I've not really been following this thread much so presumably it's already been covered but do people think that long-term Lindegaard could be good enough for us?
 
Brwned said:
De Gea's got a great attitude in fairness. Just further reinforces my belief it's just Sir Alex challenging him mentally.

I've not really been following this thread much so presumably it's already been covered but do people think that long-term Lindegaard could be good enough for us?
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yeah, his attitude does seem top notch.

I'm not sure thats why he keeps being rotated, although that is possible.
I remember an interview with Mats Moller Daelhi where he said that the coaches leave players out of the side, or don't speak with them for a while to test their mentality- not sure they do that to young first teamers when the results are important though.
 
Brwned said:
I've not really been following this thread much so presumably it's already been covered but do people think that long-term Lindegaard could be good enough for us?
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Personally I think that Lindegaard could be a Friedel type of keeper. A solid keeper but not as good to be first keeper for a team like us.

De Gea's potential on the other side is unlimited.
 
Revan said:
Personally I think that Lindegaard could be a Friedel type of keeper. A solid keeper but not as good to be first keeper for a team like us.

De Gea's potential on the other side is unlimited.
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If he is as good as Friedel we can all be very happy.
 
Drainy said:
If his potential is unlimited does that mean he can one day operate outside the laws of physics? :)
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Like in Mata's free kick last season? :cool:

Randall Flagg said:
If he is as good as Friedel we can all be very happy.
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I don't think that Friedel was good enough for United to be first keeper. A good backup yes, but not as good as VDS or Schmeihel. While I think that De Gea can be as good/
 
I'd include Lloris and Handanovic, but definitely not Sczezzcnzcnczny, nor Reina. Mental.
 
Just a poor list. Even if you threw all the overrated keepers in there you'd still find room for De Gea over the likes of Caballero, who is good but not even called into the Argentina squad let alone number 1
 
Wonder how many times the person who wrote the list has watched those keepers play, or surely he's not a frequent watcher of the Turkish liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc.. Stupid list. Caballero is a mid table keeper in Spain, or is he only in there because Malaga have had a decent CL campaign? Abbiati has never been a top keeper.
 
Seriously you lot are a bunch of pussies.

Some random douche put a bunch of random average keepers ahead of De Gea in a random list. Big fecking deal.
 
Didn't we have a big thread about the Top 10 keepers in the world on here a couple of months ago? As i recall a sizeable proportion of the forum didn't feel that he deserved being near such a list at that time.

Where would you lot have De Gea in your Top 20 then?
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Didn't we have a big thread about the Top 10 keepers in the world on here a couple of months ago? As i recall a sizeable proportion of the forum didn't feel that he deserved being near such a list at that time.

Where would you lot have De Gea in your Top 20 then?
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For me in first tier are Casillas, Neuer, Buffon, Hart and possibly Cech. Then comes the second tier of keepers where I think De Gea belongs.
 
Fergie was just talking about how Lindegaard has done nothing to deserve being dropped. I'm sure we'll see DDG back now.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Didn't we have a big thread about the Top 10 keepers in the world on here a couple of months ago? As i recall a sizeable proportion of the forum didn't feel that he deserved being near such a list at that time.

Where would you lot have De Gea in your Top 20 then?
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A lot put De Gea in their top 10 in that one: a lot being anyone who included him as he's not there yet. Debatable whether he should be in the top 20 or not.

What isn't debatable is that he should be ahead of Lindegaard for us though, tonight.
 
Can't believe he's had to sit out 3 games or so now because he had a minor surgery. Sir Alex really needs to just stick with De Gea, I can't understand why he hasn't done this already.
 
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