David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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SharkyMcShark said:
I felt he might have done better with the first but without it being a massive clanger.

I suppose it wasn't up to the really high shot stopping standard that he's set so far, as opposed to being a mistake.
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From one of the angles, it looked like Agbonlahor was right in his line of view and he saw it late. But I'm not 100% sure about that.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
I felt he might have done better with the first but without it being a massive clanger.

I suppose it wasn't up to the really high shot stopping standard that he's set so far, as opposed to being a mistake.
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Have you ever been a keeper? Don't think so.
The shot was fired with power, his view was partialy blocked, and in all honesty a shot like that does have a more than decent chance of going in, because when you're a keeper you automaticaly put your hands up and wide in order to cover more space, you don't expect a shot to be fired right over the top of your head and with the kind of power it was struck it was a really difficult one to try and keep out.
He could've saved it, yes. Is it his fault we conceded? Not in the slightest.
 
OGkush said:
Have you ever been a keeper? Don't think so.
The shot was fired with power, his view was partialy blocked, and in all honesty a shot like that does have a more than decent chance of going in, because when you're a keeper you automaticaly put your hands up and wide in order to cover more space, you don't expect a shot to be fired right over the top of your head and with the kind of power it was struck it was a really difficult one to try and keep out.
He could've saved it, yes. Is it his fault we conceded? Not in the slightest.
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I've not kept at a professional level obviously, but for several successful amateur teams.

Your concluding sentence is basically exactly what I said.
 
Neutral said:
From one of the angles, it looked like Agbonlahor was right in his line of view and he saw it late. But I'm not 100% sure about that.
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Thats what I took from it.
 
Just came to mind, has De Gea ever actually made a total blunder? By that, I don't mean when he goes for crosses and then is beaten by them. I mean where's made an absolute 'mare of a mess which has lead to a goal.

Nothing really springs to mind.
 
Liverpool away and blackburn(home?) last year if I'm not wrong, I don't remember many more where we conceeded goal after his mistake.
 
Against Blackburn last season, one of the goals conceded, the 3rd I think, was a bit of a mess because he tried to come out and completely missed the ball if I recall correctly.
 
Outside of crosses the only shocking blunder I remember from him was against West Brom. The sharks were circling after the community shield and I've never seen a goalkeeper more nervous.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Against Blackburn last season, one of the goals conceded, the 3rd I think, was a bit of a mess because he tried to come out and completely missed the ball if I recall correctly.
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Not a complete blunder as the defense completely failed on that one.
 
I think he has improved, everyone agrees he could not have done more on the first goal. I'm sure all the defenders would like to keep a clean sheet but unfortunately it is not happening.

The situation is far from ideal but i think De Gea is doing his best and will continue to justify Sir Alex's faith in signing him.
 
In his first official game, the Community Shield against City, there was a blunder on a shot from Dzeko if I remember correctly.
 
King_Eric said:
In his first official game, the Community Shield against City, there was a blunder on a shot from Dzeko if I remember correctly.
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Yep, went right under his body, from well outside the box. Dzeko looked shocked he'd scored.

That's almost it from a shot stopping perspective though. And we won anyway ;)

The big worry will be if he gets into his third year here and still doesn't command his box. I don't know if he's shy, or his English isn't good enough or what, but he needs to be organising defenders, yelling at them to fill gaps and so forth.

Bring back VDS as a coach, he'll teach him!
 
He's yelling far more at them.
 
He commanded the box and punched well against Villa. If he keeps that up, he will be fine.
 
NM said:
He commanded the box and punched well against Villa. If he keeps that up, he will be fine.
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yep, he did well in this department against them. Had quite a few good punches in a couple of minutes at one point. He has the skills I feel, its just a case of ignoring the media and using his own judgement on when the actually come. I've got the feeling at times when the media is really on his back about his flapping that he tries to hard and comes for balls that he shouldn't which only makes the media stuff worse.
 
If he DDG would have let in that 4th Ibra goal tonight the press would be out for blood.
 
fecking wisdom teeth, mine are killing me.

Hopefully he returns as #1 and we don't use this as an excuse to start rotating again.
 
Shit, i feel less confident without him
 
ha_rooney said:
fecking wisdom teeth, mine are killing me.

Hopefully he returns as #1 and we don't use this as an excuse to start rotating again.
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I hope the same - saying that it's a good time to give Lindegaard a game or two. I'd play him against Galatasaray as well then play de Gea against QPR onwards.
 
feck why can't we release the news earlier Ive got DDG in the dream team !
 
He's made feck all errors recently. Hopefully it's precautionary and not that daft rotation policy.
 
ha_rooney said:
:confused: his last game against Villa, he was superb.
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Yeah, except when he was beaten by a shot fired directly over his head. The game before that he conceded a goal on his own side on a free kick. There are a lot of excuses that get made for him on a forum like this which turn games where he makes obvious mistakes into world class performances, but what you have to remember is that it's Ferguson who picks the team and he doesn't read the forum.

From the outside looking in this De Gea bubble is actually quite funny, his fanboys all say that he is one of the top 10 goalkeepers in world football and having brilliant games every week despite his mistakes (which are explained away as unavoidable), while also extolling the virtues of not rotating goalkeepers, meaning Lindegaard should be benched permanently and not De Gea. When De Gea is dropped, fanboys are very surprised at this and think is a terrible decision. How do people even begin to square the supposed facts that De Gea is constantly having amazing games and making no mistakes with him getting rotated all the time? What's the explanation?
 
kietotheworld said:
Yeah, except when he was beaten by a shot fired directly over his head. The game before that he conceded a goal on his own side on a free kick. There are a lot of excuses that get made for him on a forum like this which turn games where he makes obvious mistakes into world class performances, but what you have to remember is that it's Ferguson who picks the team and he doesn't read the forum.

From the outside looking in this De Gea bubble is actually quite funny, his fanboys all say that he is one of the top 10 goalkeepers in world football and having brilliant games every week despite his mistakes (which are explained away as unavoidable), while also extolling the virtues of not rotating goalkeepers, meaning Lindegaard should be benched permanently and not De Gea. When De Gea is dropped, fanboys are very surprised at this and think is a terrible decision. How do people even begin to square the supposed facts that De Gea is constantly having amazing games and making no mistakes with him getting rotated all the time? What's the explanation?
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Phrased it better than I ever could. All the De Gea love when, currently, Lindegaard is the far superior 'keeper amuses me.
 
I don't think many keepers, would've saved the villa effort. It was struck powerfully and he saw it late. The mata effort was a great freekick IMO, he gambled that mata would hit it to his left like last season but unfortunately mata was clever enough and sent it the other side.

Neither were mistakes in my opinion and he has been playing more confidently recently, as shown by the way he took command of his box late in the villa game.

Everytime he starts to look comfortable and dominant as a keeper, Fergie starts rotating and we're back to square one with him. Lindegaard is not the 'far superior' keeper, there's very little between them and whilst lindegaard may edge it right now, he is close to his peak whereas DDG will continue to improve and become one of the best in the world. It's a no brainer for me, start DDG everytime.
 
ha_rooney said:
I don't think many keepers, would've saved the villa effort. It was struck powerfully and he saw it late. The mata effort was a great freekick IMO, he gambled that mata would hit it to his left like last season but unfortunately mata was clever enough and sent it the other side.

Neither were mistakes in my opinion and he has been playing more confidently recently, as shown by the way he took command of his box late in the villa game.
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If he stuck his hand up in the air he would have saved it, it's a save he should be making. If you don't expect him to save a shot like that then you have a lower opinion of him than I do.

The Mata free kick is an obvious error, if De Gea covers his side correctly then Mata has to hit a perfect free kick for it to go in, he either has to beat the wall or beat a goalkeeper on the correct side of his goal. If he decides to be a smart-arse and try to second guess Mata then Mata only has to hit a decent free kick and it's a definite goal because the goalkeeper's fecked off to the other side of the goal leaving his own side completely open.

Everytime he starts to look comfortable and dominant as a keeper, Fergie starts rotating and we're back to square one with him. Lindegaard is not the 'far superior' keeper, there's very little between them and whilst lindegaard may edge it right now, he is close to his peak whereas DDG will continue to improve and become one of the best in the world. It's a no brainer for me, start DDG everytime.
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Are you saying Ferguson does not have a brain?
 
So according to kietotheworld, De Gea is a superhuman keeper who can stop point blank shots coming at blistering pace. Look at the Wiemann's shot again mate. Very little time to react
 
kietotheworld said:
Are you saying Ferguson does not have a brain?
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I'm saying his rotation policy is wrong, it doesn't help either keeper and it's short sighted. DDG had the better potential and each time he looks confident in goal, SAF changes it by rotating. It's obvious to most rotation doesn't work so, IMO, he should stop that and stick with the GK who is the better choice - for me that is DDG.
 
Plato said:
So according to kietotheworld, De Gea is a superhuman keeper who can stop point blank shots coming at blistering pace. Look at the Wiemann's shot again mate. Very little time to react
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:lol: This is what I'm talking about. De Gea is the only goalkeeper in the world who would have a side-foot shot from the edge of the area described as "point blank" at "blistering pace".
ha_rooney said:
I'm saying his rotation policy is wrong, it doesn't help either keeper and it's short sighted. DDG had the better potential and each time he looks confident in goal, SAF changes it by rotating. It's obvious to most rotation doesn't work so, IMO, he should stop that and stick with the GK who is the better choice - for me that is DDG.
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It's far from being short sighted, in fact I'd say it swings too far the other way. The rotation system is a massive help to De Gea - Lindegaard is better at the moment, but Ferguson picks De Gea because playing in rotation is better for his development than sitting on his arse watching Lindegaard every week instead of just half of them. It'd only be a hindrance to him if he was better than Lindegaard at the moment but Ferguson was playing Lindegaard regardless, which would be absurd.

Twigginater said:
feck me Da Gea has been in exceptional form all season, it's obvious
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Why does Ferguson keep dropping a goalkeeper who is obviously in exceptional form?
 
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