Hart is a fine 'keeper but, like Arsenal's no. 1, he has more attitude than talent.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Well Hart's played more than De Gea on account of the fact that he can actually secure a spot in his own team.
Can't really blame DDG for getting dropped after 1 mistake against Fulham despite saving us countless times and it also helps that we actually have a very decent backup keeper unlike City. Hart can continue to make the mistakes he's been making and not dropped.
De Gea only just turned 22, at 22 Hart was nowhere near good enough for a club like United. He'd probably be in rotation with that clown Pantilimon at that age if they were the only two at the club..
Why does it always have to be Hart vs. De Gea? I am actually happy that a goalkeeper is getting over the top praise. They get criticised far too often and although I'm not sure blowing smoke up Hart's arse is the right thing for the media to do it's actually refreshing. Keepers don't mature until they hit their 30's, you have to accept certain deficiencies and costly errors. I don't think many young keepers could deal with the chopping and changing in front of him as well as his own rotation as well as De Gea. There's been plenty of times when he's pulled off some ridiculous saves already in his tenure here, there have been errors too but you have to take the rough with the smooth. He's a baby, trust him and let him develop.
And it really really can not be easy playing in front of a defense as shocking as ours has been.
Not to mention The Invisible Midfield.
Yeah, you can, because it was his mistake that got him dropped. Who else would you blame?
Agreed, I've already said De Gea might one day be as good as Hart, I take issue with people saying he's as good as him now though.
Good save to prevent Wiemann getting a hat-trick but more impressive was his punching when Villa pitched the ball into our box.
I've seen absolutely nothing this season to agree with that.
That shocked me a little. He actually dealt with pressure from crosses adeptly, by modern standards anyway.
Who says he's as good as Hart now though? Barely anyone. What he is doing though is proving that he will become a world class goalkeeper for us, and he's just turned 22.
He might not be as good as Hart right now but he's done better than Hart all season and was absolutely fantastic for the second half of last season too.
Both have had their moments this season. David is still so young for a keeper though and its amazing what he has accomplished so far.
To be fair, hart has been quite good for the last couple years, especially for england.
Don't think there is a huge difference between the 2, both young, both great shot stoppers but prone to the odd soft one going in & both have problems often flapping at crosses. Think the 2 of them are going to be the top 2 keepers in the world in a couple of years but I am happy we have DDG.
I liked that De Gea had the confidence to go out and punch a couple of crosses when he knew Smalling/Rio struggled with Benteke in the air. Mature goalkeeping, and he did it well too.
was great after his haircut just before the break.
Just to be clear, potential sarcasm etc, are you saying you DON'T think De Gea can be as good as Joe Hart?
If you do, I'm surprised. Hart's not even that much better than De Gea now and he is 4/5 years older than him.
I think he's saying it's ridiculously harsh on DDG to suggest he has the potential to be as good as Hart, rather than him pretty much being there now.
De Gea will be #1 in the world in 2 years.
Just my opinion like.
Just my opinion like.
I think, think, he's implying that de Gea has much more potential than that, the original quote seems to imply Hart is much better when he isn't.
Yeah, I think that's what he means. At first I was unsure too
It's good to see that progression, we shouldn't be too surprised though given how young he is, that development for him in our league was always going to take time but he always had the talent to do so.
Oh, okay. In that case I totally agree.
He will defo be top three. Too good at this age not to be.
One small big thing, if that makes sense, for him to sort out - dominating his box - and we are laughing.
Hart is a lot better than De Gea at the moment to be honest. I think they have similar potential, while Hart is overrated compared to De Gea being underrated, however that doesn't stop Hart being the comfortably better of the two right at this time.
This poor kid has been here a year and a half and we still haven't given him a consistent backfield. I'm watching through my eyes in stoppage time as Villa is hoofing the ball into a crowded box. I really, really like de Gea, but with our defensive play over the last two seasons, any goalkeeper is going to look a bit out of sorts.
Gone are the comfortable 3-0 victories where you'd forget van der Sar was even in the stadium.
Gone are the comfortable 3-0 victories where you'd forget van der Sar was even in the stadium.
Actually in technical terms he isn't that far behind Hart, but Hart has the ability to look confident even when he's fecked up while De Gea looks upset when anything goes wrong- even when it isn't his fault.
Hart isn't that great on crosses (but better than De Gea), he spills the ball into dangerous areas from shots and his kicking isn't good at all. He's seen as a great goalkeeper because perception>reality. It also helps that there aren't that many consistently great keepers around in the last few years- oh and he's young and English.
Hart isn't that great on crosses (but better than De Gea), he spills the ball into dangerous areas from shots and his kicking isn't good at all. He's seen as a great goalkeeper because perception>reality. It also helps that there aren't that many consistently great keepers around in the last few years- oh and he's young and English.
Credit to De Gea, he has not had it easy since coming here. He's had consistently retarded defensive and midfield performances to put up with and constant pressure to deal with as a result. On top of that he's had a ridiculous media witch hunt and the fear of being dropped every time he makes a mistake (sometimes even when he doesn't).
Despite this, he's really saved us in a lot of games. That was a cracker of a save from Weimann today and his punching was top notch.
Despite this, he's really saved us in a lot of games. That was a cracker of a save from Weimann today and his punching was top notch.
I dont get that from his comments at all. As for the comparison, technically De Gea is just as good. But Hart is much more settled in this league and deals better with crosses. He's the better keeper for now.
I'm pretty sure the club think he has as much if not more potential than Mr. Hart which is why we spent so much money on him.
I'm pretty sure the club think he has as much if not more potential than Mr. Hart which is why we spent so much money on him.
Loved the way he dealt with crosses today, he's looking good right now.
Thought he benefitted from having Smalling in front of him. Smalling is more secure in the air than Evans and Ferdinand. De Gea made some good decisions to come out and punch towards the end.
For the first goal, he was probably unsighted and didn't see it until late. If he'd seen it straight off the boot of Weimann I think he would have got a hand on it.
Yes, I was impressed by that too.
Heart in mouth moments during that added on time when he stepped away from the goal line. Both for protecting our lead and protecting his confidence. He did well. Small, but important, steps.
Anytime I see De Gea doing well after a poor performance, I think back to when he first came to us and had his troubled start. Probably was better off not knowing English then. Can imagine seeing him looking at all those headlines targeted towards him and thinking "Que"?
Another player with great attitude and mentality.
Another player with great attitude and mentality.
Yup, last 20 minutes, all of a sudden he decided to control his area and it was
But he did a great job(I know it's basics, but it was nice to see him make solid contact with every punch and not worry about the collision with the other players).Good game - and not at fault for the 1st goal.
He could have been more protected by the ref in one( or two) instance(s) but nice of him not to complain and just go back for more
Thought he was solid yesterday. When we were put under pressure, he came and delt with the crosses well with some good punching under pressure fro opponents. I am beginning to think though, that when he comes for a cross, unless the opponent takes a tyre iron off his head, he will not be given a foul.
The goal, he was unsighted and had no chance and his obligatory good relex save from a header. All in all he is getting there.
The goal, he was unsighted and had no chance and his obligatory good relex save from a header. All in all he is getting there.
He dealt with the crosses very well last night, came out and punched all 3 (or 4?) crosses with simplicity and no misunderstandings with his defenders. Couldn't do anything about either goal.
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