Nor the height? He's over 190cm. He's taller than Reina, Friedel, Vorm, Given, Howard, Cesar, Lloris
Same height as Krul, Guzan, Lindegaard, Jaaskelainen
A bit smaller than Hart, Szczesny, Cech, Al-Habsi, Schwarzer.
Nothing wrong with his height.
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Nor the height? He's over 190cm. He's taller than Reina, Friedel, Vorm, Given, Howard, Cesar, Lloris
Same height as Krul, Guzan, Lindegaard, Jaaskelainen
A bit smaller than Hart, Szczesny, Cech, Al-Habsi, Schwarzer.
Nothing wrong with his height.
If he bulks up he'll likely lose some of his agility, and without that extra agility he'll be worse off as he doesn't have the length so to compensate for that he'll have to improve his positioning and anticipation.
He's not taller than Howard, I know that much for a start. He's also much slighter than all those you've listed (with the exception of Lloris). Krul is 2 inches taller than De Gea as is Guzan and Jaaskelainen, not sure where you've gotten those figures from.
Since when was 6ft 4in insufficient to be a top goalkeeper? It is the same as Manuel Neuer and taller than both Schmeichel and Kahn to name but two..
That is not an argument which sands up to much scrutiny IMO.
That is not an argument which sands up to much scrutiny IMO.
He's 6ft 4 eh? I stand corrected.
I remain adamant that he should not come out for crosses however.
I remain adamant that he should not come out for crosses however.
Dominating the area is not vastly overrated at all. Even Fergie told De Gea that when in the twelve yard box, he's the boss. Obviously goalkeepers do not come off their line to claim their ball frivolously but you can well see that the likes of Cech and VDS make it loud and clear that they are claiming the cross. De Gea seems to just pounce out like a cat and attempt some heroic hurl with his fist without communication with the centre halves. People talk about him not inspiring confidence in the back four and it's true. Whenever a cross comes in, it is complete and utter pandemonium in the box.
Therefore, I think you have missed my point really. Nobody is doubting his ability as a shot stopper and it is precisely this attribute that led me to assert that he should stay on line for most occasions rather than lunge out at any aerial ball. He should play to his strengths not highlight his weakness.
Defenders are pragmatic. Like everyone else they want a keeper who keeps the ball out of the net. That's what De Gea does. (And when you play behind a defence allowing as many shots as ours, that's the ultimate in "having their back".) He organises them when he needs to but there's a limit to how much taking charge is going to go on with Rio and Vidic in front of him.
"People in this thread" are not necessarily the best judges. I would suggest that shot stopping is the primary necessary attribute of a keeper. Beyond that, I don't much care if he makes "mistakes" as long as they don't lead to goals. Of course no mistakes is better for my heart, but I can live with that.
All top level keepers are good shot stoppers.some better than others. But I think it is a vital attribute that they are imposing in their area and very important for defenders to fully trust their keeper.
It is an issue. It's there for all to see.
But we need to stick with him.
It is an issue. It's there for all to see.
But we need to stick with him.
He's the same size as Howard.
Same height as Howard then. This is why you should use the metric system. It matters if he verges on being 6ft4 and then gets listed as such when he's 6ft3. Metric system is accurate. Really annoying countries that don't get that.
De Gea is (just) 6'2" despite what his wikipedia profile says, Howard is a couple of cm short of 6'4", he's taller.
Don't know where the stuff about De Gea being 6'4" came from but it's abundantly clear he's shorter than Ferdinand who isn't 6'4" either.
I typed in 'Tim Howard height' and 'David De Gea height' in google and both came up as 1.91m. I trust google more than any other source I've seen.
It's besides the point. Dude isn't short. That's the point. Guy I quoted said he didn't have the height which was the wrongful comment I was ultimately correcting.
It's besides the point. Dude isn't short. That's the point. Guy I quoted said he didn't have the height which was the wrongful comment I was ultimately correcting.
Well Google says Michael Carrick is 188cm and this is a picture of De Gea and Carrick side by side.
Accounting for possible slouching and perspective theres nothing between them. I'd also say Phil Jones must be bigger than the 180cm Google gives him credit for.
However you want to look at it though, he's not 6'3". He's just below average for a top keeper, it's not necessarily detrimental, but it's not an asset like it was for Van Der Sar (or Schmeichel, who was every mm of 6'4").
Accounting for possible slouching and perspective theres nothing between them. I'd also say Phil Jones must be bigger than the 180cm Google gives him credit for.
However you want to look at it though, he's not 6'3". He's just below average for a top keeper, it's not necessarily detrimental, but it's not an asset like it was for Van Der Sar (or Schmeichel, who was every mm of 6'4").
Wiki and soccernet have him at 193cm, google at 191cm, PES database at 192cm, goal.com at 190cm and he's 192cm on the Spanish FA site.
A photo from a considerable distance where you don't even see feet or knees is not a good basis to compare heights. Ignoring slouching, bent knees, arched feet, being a step back, etc. all sorts of distortions are built into photography anyway. Just look at any family/wedding pic, or how larger women avoid being at the end of the photo like the plague.
I don't see any valid reason why his stats everwhere on the internet (either 190 or 192) would be completely wrong. In any case, he is not lacking height.
Every time some goalie flapped at a cross and conceded my grandfather used to say/rant: "the keeper can extend his arms over his head. There's no reason why any keeper should ever be beaten in the air without being at fault, or a pussy".
I don't see any valid reason why his stats everwhere on the internet (either 190 or 192) would be completely wrong. In any case, he is not lacking height.
Every time some goalie flapped at a cross and conceded my grandfather used to say/rant: "the keeper can extend his arms over his head. There's no reason why any keeper should ever be beaten in the air without being at fault, or a pussy".
It's like I've been taken back to September 2011 all over again... Quick, someone post a picture of him at the cash machine.
This picture shows he's quite clearly taller than Evans and Rio:
Your grandfather was a real innovator with the slang.
If we can calculate that height of that suitcase, multiply it then we might be able to find De Gea's real height.
He's almost as big as the fecking plane!!!!!
De Gea: There's no reason to doubt Casillas
The Madrid glovesman was criticised after his performance in Sunday's Clasico versus Barcelona, but the former Atletico Madrid man has insisted that the 31-year-old remains the best shot stopper around in the game.
"Casillas is the best goalkeeper in the world, but he is also human. If you start to doubt Iker, then you doubt every single goalkeeper," De Gea told Radio Nacional de Espana.
"It's very difficult for a goalkeeper to win the Ballon d'Or. But as Iker Casillas is the best in the world in his position it would be nice if he won it.
"There are times when things don't go well and it seems as if you are a worse goalkeeper. But we are human."
De Gea then went on to voice his opinion that goalkeepers generally do not get the respect the deserve.
"Goalkeepers are always judged by everyone very quickly. We are not valued very highly, people should value us more, because if you don't have a goalkeeper, you can't play a game."
Casillas is currently preparing for Spain's World Cup qualifier versus Belarus on Friday.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/10/11/3441324/de-gea-theres-no-reason-to-doubt-casillas
TBH it's hard to judge who is the best right now.
All top keepers have more or less been shit for the last year or so.
Except Hart, of course, he's massive.
The Madrid glovesman was criticised after his performance in Sunday's Clasico versus Barcelona, but the former Atletico Madrid man has insisted that the 31-year-old remains the best shot stopper around in the game.
"Casillas is the best goalkeeper in the world, but he is also human. If you start to doubt Iker, then you doubt every single goalkeeper," De Gea told Radio Nacional de Espana.
"It's very difficult for a goalkeeper to win the Ballon d'Or. But as Iker Casillas is the best in the world in his position it would be nice if he won it.
"There are times when things don't go well and it seems as if you are a worse goalkeeper. But we are human."
De Gea then went on to voice his opinion that goalkeepers generally do not get the respect the deserve.
"Goalkeepers are always judged by everyone very quickly. We are not valued very highly, people should value us more, because if you don't have a goalkeeper, you can't play a game."
Casillas is currently preparing for Spain's World Cup qualifier versus Belarus on Friday.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2012/10/11/3441324/de-gea-theres-no-reason-to-doubt-casillas
TBH it's hard to judge who is the best right now.
All top keepers have more or less been shit for the last year or so.
Except Hart, of course, he's massive.
de Gea has the right idea when it comes to women though.
Hart, well....
2/10 would only bang if drunk.
Hart, well....
2/10 would only bang if drunk.
and if she had a mask on.
Looks a bit like him as well.
Clearly Rooney isn't the only one with a fetish for Grannies.
We need photoshop!
I don't see a difference.
Is she really 24? 
I believe that about as much as I believe Kanu is 36.
I believe that about as much as I believe Kanu is 36.Kanu is 12.
I reckon that if you take all the makeup off, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. and likewise, if you put makeup on the altered version (harts face, girls body) then it would look too similar.
As the old saying goes, "She's as rough as a badgers arse"
Is DDG in the Spain squad for the qualifiers?
He's English though. Poor de Gea is a Johnny Foreigner.
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