DDG needs to be number 1 undisputed IMO otherwise it stunts his development.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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It just bugs me, there is debate and then there are stupid arrogant posts like Fergie leaving him out is a joke which just grips my shit. When people like yourself and Varum debate in a sensible and intelligent matter thats fine
I dont see how, apart fropm Hart and Cassias (sp?) How many goalkeepers are undisputed first choice at DDGs age, especially at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Im sure all of the rest arent having their development stunted?
De Gea has a similar quality to both of them. Anyway both Buffon and VDS were undisputed keepers at a young age to their respective clubs (Juve and Ajax). Neuer was first goaalkeeper of Schake at a young age, Valdez first keeper of Barca at young age too.
I wouldn't have a problem if let's say we have VDS and De Gea is No.2 keeper. But FFS he is light years ahead superior than Lindegaard, and there is no reason, absollutelly no reason why he is not starting our important matches.
Considering having that as my location Sparks, although i do think you mean mannerIt just bugs me, there is debate and then there are stupid arrogant posts like Fergie leaving him out is a joke which just grips my shit. When people like yourself and Varum debate in a sensible and intelligent matter thats fine
Considering having that as my location Sparks, although i do think you mean manner
i do indeed sir
Worked quite well for us? fecking hell. 
fecking hell...
Have we been conceding goals from goalkeeper errors or something? I don't recall one so far.
It seems to me that Lindegaard plays if there is a threat of crosses, otherwise it's De Gea.
It seems to me that Lindegaard plays if there is a threat of crosses, otherwise it's De Gea.
De Gea would have played at Anfield were that the case.
It's all well and good, but if de Gea gets pissed off and decides he's had enough of rotation we'll lose one of the brightest young keepers in the game. What's more is, this rotation policy can only hamper him and not develop him. For every clanger de Gea drops on his learning curve he'll save our skins 10 times.
He mostly comes out for crosses. Mostly.
Does SAF ever wonder why no other club in the world uses this revolutionary idea? I mean its hardly rocket science. This is beyond stupid.
Yes. Ferguson is stupid.
Not what i meant. This keeper rotation things is stupid though.
I prefer keeping De Gea in goal as he makes more match winning saves than Lindegaard. Yes he will miss the odd cross or be physically overpowered at times but I think playing him now will reap long term benefits. He is really becoming very good
Fergie has said he missed out on Cech because he thought Cech was too young when we scouted him/chelsea signed him..
He didnt want to miss out on De Gea. Doesnt mean De Gea has to start every game.
The price tag gave him the #1 spot and a chance. He made a few errors.
The position is up for grabs.. Both keepers will get around 30 games a season and De Gea has age on his side... Someone will establish themselves as the #1 soonish...
Till then, rotate.
Most sides have a clear #1.. either because they dont have 2 good keepers or because 1 is established already... or because 1 is much better than the other.
None of that applies to us.. Both new to the club.. both good and both have done well.
I'd rather start with Lindegaard at the moment.
He didnt want to miss out on De Gea. Doesnt mean De Gea has to start every game.
The price tag gave him the #1 spot and a chance. He made a few errors.
The position is up for grabs.. Both keepers will get around 30 games a season and De Gea has age on his side... Someone will establish themselves as the #1 soonish...
Till then, rotate.
Most sides have a clear #1.. either because they dont have 2 good keepers or because 1 is established already... or because 1 is much better than the other.
None of that applies to us.. Both new to the club.. both good and both have done well.
I'd rather start with Lindegaard at the moment.
De gea has a higher ceiling
Since Lindegaard got injured last season, De Gea has been in amazing form. Saved our asses with brilliant saves, saves Lindegaard isnt capable of pulling off. Then comes this season where he starts where he left off. Then 1 mistake and he's dropped. What does that do to his confidence? Is that the best way to handle a keeper? If 1 mistake is enough to merit dropping him after stellar performances, will SAF drop RVP or Rooney too when they make a mistake?
Clubs dont buy a 2nd keeper of the same level because its an unnecessary luxury. SAF keeps harping on about how its very important to have a stable back 4, doesnt he see that the same applies to the goalie as well? How can it not? Communication and understanding between the defence and the GK is very important. Constant rotation isnt going to help in that regard.
Says who? FM? Fifa?
In fairness, he does look like he will be the long term #1. But he still has to earn it.
Lindegaard is a steady keeper, but he has never "wowed" me.
He makes the routine saves and catches just fine, but 1 of those shots that look destined for the net he does not seem to save; where as DDG has made some mind blowing saves in the passed year.
I personally feel that DDG is the better all round keeper, sure people picking on him from corners and targeting him from crosses does not help, but i think he is improving in that area - look at the cross against Cluj when the ball was up high and the player bundled into him, he kept it firm and took the hit.
Its a tough decision, but i think DDG plus' outweigh the negatives.
He makes the routine saves and catches just fine, but 1 of those shots that look destined for the net he does not seem to save; where as DDG has made some mind blowing saves in the passed year.
I personally feel that DDG is the better all round keeper, sure people picking on him from corners and targeting him from crosses does not help, but i think he is improving in that area - look at the cross against Cluj when the ball was up high and the player bundled into him, he kept it firm and took the hit.
Its a tough decision, but i think DDG plus' outweigh the negatives.
He says neither of them have got that "big game experience", well that's pretty much undermining anything De Gea achieved at Atletico Madrid. He played against the 2 best club sides in the world several times including some man of the match performances against Barcelona, played through Atletico's run to the Europa league final including trips to Valencia, Galatasaray and Liverpool. He played in a Spanish cup final. It's quite damning to read that article and see Fergie say these things, because if he really does think rotating keepers is for the best then It's probably going to give us more unnecessary problems. No keeper can gain confidence from being punted from the side every couple of weeks. None
No more rotation. Lindegaard is number one. Sorted.
De Gea is a much better goalkeeper.
More talented perhaps. But at the moment Lindegaard is more reliable.
That's my opinion too. DDG won the Europa League and that final was played against Fulham. He may be young but he definitely has big game experience. How is DDG supposed to get big game experience against teams in the League Cup and CL Group stages anyway? Seems a silly statement, it will be interesting to see if DDG is dropped when we get to the knock-out stages for the CL.
Is he? Frankly I think Lindegaard misses some saves that you'd expect him or DDG to make. He could have done better for the second and third goals by Tottenham.
This is going to end up like the Nani vs Valencia debates. Just play the kid Fergus.
De Gea is a much better goalkeeper.
says you!
Ferguson obviously cant decide who is the better one so how can you?
They both have excellent attributes , a combination of which would be tip top class. But I hope he decides soon because I don't think the chopping and changing benefits the team at all.
So now you are being ridiculously harsh on Lindegaard in the same way we hear the media talk about DDG, and which we complain about. Hypocrisy.
Ferguson knows De Gea will be the best around in a couple of years.
Not at all, I like Lindegaard (I've met him) but the parry into Dempsey especially should have been pushed elsewhere.
I had a dream last night that Lindegaard got injured and de Gea was undisputed first choice, and I was happy.
Changing personnel in the back 5 all the time is not helping us to a solid defense. I think SAF should make a decision about the goalkeepers and stick to it for a while to rebuild confidence in defense.
Jesus Christ that is some of the biggest amount of bullshit I've heard in a while
I really do wonder if Fergie believed half the stuff he comes out with these days.
I really do wonder if Fergie believed half the stuff he comes out with these days.
De Gea produced his best stuff when given a run in the side last season.
Coincidence? Ummmm, no!
Play him.
Coincidence? Ummmm, no!
Play him.
So basically, if Fergie is unsure as to who is better, then none of us are allowed to have an opinion on it? Hate posts like that to be honest.
De Gea is the better goalkeeper of the two and given a couple more years will be in a different world to him. Given a run, Lindegaard's shown some weaknesses. He's a decent goalkeeper, but only looks like good backup to me. De Gea is a better shot stopper and will soon be better in every department.
SAF isn't all knowing. If he were United would run away with the league every year.
It's also a poor argument considering our goalkeeper issues in the past.
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