David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Liam147 said:
Are you being stupid on purpose? Explain to me, what our current #1 is doing so badly wrong to suggest that we have a 'major problem'. If both keepers get injured, then yes. Even if just Lindegaard got injured I wouldn't say it was major. But DDG's going through a very poor spell, and needs to greatly improve his aerial ability.
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Who is our current number 1? Lindegaard? He looks better than DDG right now, but his performance at Newcastle was terrible.

DDG going through a poor spell? He has been dodgy since day one.

It is very similar to Bosnich and VDG in 99/00

You little twat
 
Denis' cuff said:
Not as bad as some are making out but should've done better. More puzzling is that he was picked in the first place in a highly charged match with little match sharpness. Linde has been excellent and whatever the merits of both keepers, I think most of us feel more comfortable with the Dane in goal. Weird.
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Fergie's way of showing he still has faith in him.

DDG is still our long term future I have no doubt.
 
JezChan said:
Fergie's managment of the whole keeper situation has been very questionable. Makes you wonder what's going on and being said in the dressing room and in training.
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That's bollocks! When we lost the best GK in the world, no one is going to compare immediately. Young keepers need game and confidence and there's only so much SAF can do in the process. We need VDS to come out of retirement.
 
All along, i have felt signing a young gk has been a mistake. For a new young gk to come in to follow in the footsteps of VDS is an almost impossible task.
 
The spanish approach as I described above is very distinctive - De Gea uses his feet alot more than gk developed in the Prem. Next time see how often Casillas and Valdez use their feet. Or if you can recall Pinto letting Ronaldo shot through his legs as he was positioned like De gea.

De Gea has let quite a few shots in near his near post or through his legs.
 
DDG still making some basic errors and then mistakes due to game pressure affecting him like the dropped cross.
 
sorry he has to be dropped, his confidence is shot at the moment, we can't afford to let him cost us more points in the league blackburn at home for instance, the 1st liverpool goal was unforgivable.
 
Snow said:
What bullshit. Yakubu isn't a great finisher. He hit it between DDG's legs, which is usually a great place to shoot when 1v1 on a keeper. He didn't mean too but he didn't. If a goalkeeper closes down his goal well that's often the only place to put it and it's not a big gap so players won't have a go unless they're very confident.

Goal he conceded at City was a mistake, pure and simple. His first game ever for United was against the biggest rivals and he didn't do good. That's it.

Nothing about other strikers taking notice. FFS. Some of you lot just type out anything that comes to mind after a loss, without any logic or reason.
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I'd like to see a reel of the goals he's conceded because at the begining of the season it seemed strikers had seen what had happend in the Charity Shield and been told to shoot from distance. Now it seems they have noticed a weekness he has saving shots directly at him - he has a tendency to adopt an open-legged squatting position that makes it difficult to move his feet, so he drops down to save with his body. He rarely comes out to narrow the angle either, leaving him static. It's something he needs to really improve on and you are very naive if you think opposition coaches aren't picking up on these faults and trying to exploit them.
 
Randall Flagg said:
Who is our current number 1? Lindegaard? He looks better than DDG right now, but his performance at Newcastle was terrible.

DDG going through a poor spell? He has been dodgy since day one.

It is very similar to Bosnich and VDG in 99/00

You little twat
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Good one. I disagree with you and explain rationally why there is no problem and you call me a twat. Alright then.

Lindegaard was terrible was he? I disagree, but let's say he was. And let's say DDG has been dodgy since day one.

Lindegaard is our current number one, and he had a bad game? So does everyone. Why does that put us in some sort of crisis?
 
Liam147 said:
Are you being stupid on purpose? Explain to me, what our current #1 is doing so badly wrong to suggest that we have a 'major problem'. If both keepers get injured, then yes. Even if just Lindegaard got injured I wouldn't say it was major. But DDG's going through a very poor spell, and needs to greatly improve his aerial ability.
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Either learn to discuss things without insults or you'll go on a holiday.
 
Liam147 said:
Good one. I disagree with you and explain rationally why there is no problem and you call me a twat. Alright then.

Lindegaard was terrible was he? I disagree, but let's say he was. And let's say DDG has been dodgy since day one.

Lindegaard is our current number one, and he had a bad game? So does everyone. Why does that put us in some sort of crisis?
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Newcastle was the first game that he played where the going got tough and I think that we saw his limitations. De Gea is going through a bad patch but I think he has the potential to be our long term number one, I do not see that potential in Lindeguard.
 
Liam147 said:
Serious? I ask if he's being stupid on purpose, i.e. wumming, he calls me a little twat and I get the warning?
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Saying that we have a problem in this position is hardly wumming. I think its quite obvious and not stupid at all
 
decorativeed said:
I'd like to see a reel of the goals he's conceded because at the begining of the season it seemed strikers had seen what had happend in the Charity Shield and been told to shoot from distance. Now it seems they have noticed a weekness he has saving shots directly at him - he has a tendency to adopt an open-legged squatting position that makes it difficult to move his feet, so he drops down to save with his body. He rarely comes out to narrow the angle either, leaving him static. It's something he needs to really improve on and you are very naive if you think opposition coaches aren't picking up on these faults and trying to exploit them.
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It's nothing to do with tendencies. It's what goalkeepers are told to do. Have a wide stance. Anyone who knows a goalkeeping coach would tell you this.

Years ago when a shot game straight at you keepers would go down with their bodies behind the ball. That sometimes resulted in mistakes a la Barthez and Taibi.
Now they are taught to stay on your feet with your hands down and parry/catch the ball that way. Why is this stance taught? Because if the goalkeeper has made up his mind on where the ball is going and the either a player or the surface of the pitch changes the balls course, they have a better chance of reacting because they are on their feet.

In 1v1's it's all about making yourself big. It won't affect composed forwards most of the times and a good forward in a 1v1 should score. But for the rest of the players it does affect them and the goalkeeper might prevent a goal by making himself big without actually saving it.

Kenny Dalglish did not sit down and have a meeting with his players and told them how to shoot when on 1v1 with DDG. I can tell you that much.
 
Ferguson and his rotation in goal.

De Gea, de Gea, de Gea, de Gea, de Gea, Lindegaard, de Gea, Amos, de Gea, de Gea, Lindegaard, de Gea, Lindegaard, de Gea, Amos, de Gea, de Gea, Lindegaard, de Gea, de Gea, de Gea, Amos, Lindegaard, de Gea, de Gea, de Gea, Lindegaard, Lindegaard, de Gea, Lindegaard, Lindegaard, Lindegaard, Lindegaard, de Gea.
 
That is unfair because at the start DDG was number one and an alternative came in for cup games. Much the same as previous seasons.

Lately yes he has chopped and changed too much. But purely because I dont think he knows. He also needs to keep giving DDG game time now, because we have just splashed out about £20m on him
 
Snow said:
It's nothing to do with tendencies. It's what goalkeepers are told to do. Have a wide stance. Anyone who knows a goalkeeping coach would tell you this.

Years ago when a shot game straight at you keepers would go down with their bodies behind the ball. That sometimes resulted in mistakes a la Barthez and Taibi.
Now they are taught to stay on your feet with your hands down and parry/catch the ball that way. Why is this stance taught? Because if the goalkeeper has made up his mind on where the ball is going and the either a player or the surface of the pitch changes the balls course, they have a better chance of reacting because they are on their feet.

In 1v1's it's all about making yourself big. It won't affect composed forwards most of the times and a good forward in a 1v1 should score. But for the rest of the players it does affect them and the goalkeeper might prevent a goal by making himself big without actually saving it.

Kenny Dalglish did not sit down and have a meeting with his players and told them how to shoot when on 1v1 with DDG. I can tell you that much.
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You really can't.
 
That Technicolor post from Maciek reminds me, I never really minded any of De Gea's gaffes pre-rotation.

He looked exactly like what he was: a journeyman keeper at the biggest club in the world. Learning the ropes.

Guess I'm just saying what everyone else is saying regarding GK rotation.
 
Snow said:
It's nothing to do with tendencies. It's what goalkeepers are told to do. Have a wide stance. Anyone who knows a goalkeeping coach would tell you this.

Years ago when a shot game straight at you keepers would go down with their bodies behind the ball. That sometimes resulted in mistakes a la Barthez and Taibi.
Now they are taught to stay on your feet with your hands down and parry/catch the ball that way. Why is this stance taught? Because if the goalkeeper has made up his mind on where the ball is going and the either a player or the surface of the pitch changes the balls course, they have a better chance of reacting because they are on their feet.

In 1v1's it's all about making yourself big. It won't affect composed forwards most of the times and a good forward in a 1v1 should score. But for the rest of the players it does affect them and the goalkeeper might prevent a goal by making himself big without actually saving it.

Kenny Dalglish did not sit down and have a meeting with his players and told them how to shoot when on 1v1 with DDG. I can tell you that much.
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That is part of it BUT what negates all of this is basic positioning. You get your angles correct on your near post making the striker shoot across you. Also if you are positioned well then you can anticipate the dive as you will only be diving across the nets.

If I am one on one with an attacker my first aim is to cut down the angles and limit the strikers options before any attempt at making myself big. Its only when the striker is about to shoot do you consider making yourself big or spreading yourself. However if you dont get your positioning right everything else is negated.
 
Heard a rumour that Fergie lashed out at De Gea in the tunnel. Apparently Sky reported on it. Can anyone confirm it?
 
KingCantona87 said:
Reason why I asked as I observed somebody's (older United fan on Facebook) comment on a status saying something about Schmeichel needing a bit of time when he first came over in 1991?
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The difference with Smikes was his build, and gobby nature. Even if he made a mistake it was always someone else's fault. He was also fortunate having a settled defence in front. How many games how we had the same back four this season?

DG needs to become a man quickly.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Thank feck you're not the manager.
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Because with your approach United would be getting cacked on every week. Any manager worth his salt must know when to admit a mistake and take a hard decision, even it it cost the club 18 mill or 32 mill in the case of a certain Bulgarian, to name two egs.

You just hate it because I, and a few have been right all along ... I take a bit of pleasure in that, if only because it partly justifies my eye for the game but not because I want DDG to fail ... from day one he didn't look ready, and I'm still not convinced he does actually have all the qualities to be a top class keeper.

Anyway, SAF & his backroom staff should no better, you'd think.
 
I really should learn to stay out of a thread about DDG after we have lost a match. Really is depressing how people put him down.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Because with your approach United would be getting cacked on every week. Any manager worth his salt must know when to admit a mistake and take a hard decision, even it it cost the club 18 mill or 32 mill in the case of a certain Bulgarian, to name two egs.

You just hate it because I, and a few have been right all along ... I take a bit of pleasure in that, if only because it partly justifies my eye for the game but not because I want DDG to fail ... from day one he didn't look ready, and I'm still not convinced he does actually have all the qualities to be a top class keeper.

Anyway, SAF & his backroom staff should no better, you'd think.
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:lol::lol::lol:
 
Sultan said:
The difference with Smikes was his build, and gobby nature. Even if he made a mistake it was always someone else's fault. He was also fortunate having a settled defence in front. How many games how we had the same back four this season?

DG needs to become a man quickly.
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It's easy to be a man when you're 28.
 
RyanGoggs said:
I really should learn to stay out of a thread about DDG after we have lost a match. Really is depressing how people put him down.
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Its speaking the truth rather than putting him down.

Supporters are genuinley concerned about the current goalkeeping situation at the club
 
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