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He was unbelievable in that match. I thought winning legs where Barney had the darts to start off with and then opened with a max of 160 but still lost. Think it happened 3 times or so.

It has to be soul destroying to face.


Yea I feel for Barney, but he has himself to blame for his decline. At his peak he had an affair with some barmaid who then got her boyfriend to blackmail Barney and ever since this incident he's never been quite the same. I doubt we'll see him challenging Taylor again, but I hope i'm wrong.
 
Yeah that was a massive upset- I only saw the last couple of legs but maybe Chizzy can finally get somewhere in a TV major.
 
Taylor can be such a cnut.

Chisnall played well but my God his game was boring, Pipe plays so slow. Hope Chizzy wins tomorrow.
 
What happened with Wade and Whitlock yesterday?

Also, come on Wadey!

Wade was disappointing. Not sure what happened with Whitlock. Didn't they say in commentary that he was standing really close behind him trying to wind him up etc...

Phil Taylor embarrassing himself once again.

I'm not Taylor's biggest fan but tbf, he had just won a semi and the interviewer was trying to rile him dredging up a defeat to Chizzy three years ago.
 
I'm not Taylor's biggest fan but tbf, he had just won a semi and the interviewer was trying to rile him dredging up a defeat to Chizzy three years ago.

No chance. There's people at home watching that thinking "This is going to be a walkover now, Chisnall vs Taylor? Not thanks." Studd lets the audience at home know that he's beaten him before, and tries to provoke Taylor into doing his own bit for the final "Yeah he played really well that day and if he can do that again there's no reason he can't beat me. It certainly won't be easy; anyone who thinks that is mistaken." That's a fairly easy and bog-standard answer to give, and he just went on the offensive and started insulting Studd. Out of order. You could see he was in a mood from the start.

Also, note how for nearly every interview he does he starts with his back to the camera signing autographs. Call me a cynic but that's no accident. He knows the cameras are watching, and he'll make sure he's doing his but while they're on.

And if Wade did tell him that he gave up, that's not his info to divulge in my opinion. We all know what Wade's been through mentally, what if something just went on stage where he thought "feck it, what's the point?" Sports stars have an ability to keep fighting when they're up against it, and the top ones thrive in that scenario. I don't believe Wade does, or at least he's much more prone than most to letting it get to him. Taylor could easily have said "You'll have to ask him yourself."

In short, Taylor was being an arsehole as per, and I imagine he'll apologise once again.
 
No chance. There's people at home watching that thinking "This is going to be a walkover now, Chisnall vs Taylor? Not thanks." Studd lets the audience at home know that he's beaten him before, and tries to provoke Taylor into doing his own bit for the final "Yeah he played really well that day and if he can do that again there's no reason he can't beat me. It certainly won't be easy; anyone who thinks that is mistaken." That's a fairly easy and bog-standard answer to give, and he just went on the offensive and started insulting Studd. Out of order. You could see he was in a mood from the start.

Also, note how for nearly every interview he does he starts with his back to the camera signing autographs. Call me a cynic but that's no accident. He knows the cameras are watching, and he'll make sure he's doing his but while they're on.

And if Wade did tell him that he gave up, that's not his info to divulge in my opinion. We all know what Wade's been through mentally, what if something just went on stage where he thought "feck it, what's the point?" Sports stars have an ability to keep fighting when they're up against it, and the top ones thrive in that scenario. I don't believe Wade does, or at least he's much more prone than most to letting it get to him. Taylor could easily have said "You'll have to ask him yourself."

In short, Taylor was being an arsehole as per, and I imagine he'll apologise once again.

I think you might be reading a bit too much into it. He was pissed at Wade if you believe the commentators. Maybe he should have said nothing but maybe it is hard to keep your emotions in check in these situations.
Taylor is honest and says what he feels. If you shove a microphone in someone's face five seconds after a stressful match what do ppl expect?
 
Crikey this final is going to be one of the quickest ever.
 
I thought Chisnall used one of his "once in a lifetime performance" against MvG. Now it's 5-0 & 15-0. Even if Phil shoots nothing but doubles now he'll still win hands down!


Yeah I guess coming up with performances like that back to back against MVG and Taylor was always going to be a big ask, especially in his first TV final. Glad he won a couple of legs at the end, but it wasn't much of a match in terms of being a contest. Is there another tournament before the worlds?
 
Yeah I guess coming up with performances like that back to back against MVG and Taylor was always going to be a big ask, especially in his first TV final. Glad he won a couple of legs at the end, but it wasn't much of a match in terms of being a contest. Is there another tournament before the worlds?
Yeah, can't remember which but it starts around Nov 9.
 
Yeah, can't remember which but it starts around Nov 9.


Good shout. Just had a look at planetdarts.tv

9-17 William Hill Grand Slam of Darts Wolverhampton
 
Liam really hates Taylor deosnt he? I can almost imagine him foaming at the mouth at his one sided victory.

Got a lot of time for Chissy. Used to play for Rochdale with some mates of mine a few years back.
 
Liam really hates Taylor deosnt he? I can almost imagine him foaming at the mouth at his one sided victory.

Got a lot of time for Chissy. Used to play for Rochdale with some mates of mine a few years back.

Can't do with him, he's a bellend. And no, I didn't enjoy the final. That wasn't competitive at all, it was boring. There's no fun in watching someone just destroy someone else, it's not competition, it's closer to exhibition. In fact I switched off at 5-0.
 
Can't do with him, he's a bellend. And no, I didn't enjoy the final. That wasn't competitive at all, it was boring. There's no fun in watching someone just destroy someone else, it's not competition, it's closer to exhibition. In fact I switched off at 5-0.

So no part of you thinks he's brilliant and deserves the results because of the work he's put in and the obvious skill he's got? Yeah its not ideal the same guy dominatimg, but what are they supposed to do, get him to stop playing becasue its so uncompetetive? Then what? Then you get a world champion who won't get any proper recognition because he hasnt really beaten the best.
 
So no part of you thinks he's brilliant and deserves the results because of the work he's put in and the obvious skill he's got? Yeah its not ideal the same guy dominatimg, but what are they supposed to do, get him to stop playing becasue its so uncompetetive? Then what? Then you get a world champion who won't get any proper recognition because he hasnt really beaten the best.

Not at all, and I've never suggested that. He's an unbelievable darts player and does deserve recognition. When you look at most players playing at their best, that's usually Taylor's standard. Taylor at his best still blows anyone out of the water. But if no one did come close to him (MVG, van Barneveld, Wade etc.) then I wouldn't be watching as there's no competition. We watch sport for the competition and darts wouldn't provide it. It's why so many people want the favourite to lose, to remind us that it's still unwritten and unpredictable. I started watching last night for that reason but when you see that Chizzy hasn't turned up the competition element is wiped out.

But I don't like him. I don't like his attitude and I don't like the way he comes across.
 
Let's see how Chisnall takes this whitewash. He was out of this world against MvG and played a decent tournament overall, but being destroyed totally in the finally might hurt his confidence in that he's so bloody far from being the world's best. If he had produced the same form against MvG he might have well won, however that's what separates Phil, MvG & maybe Lewis from the others, the level of consistency, being able to do it game after game, rather than just being a one match wonder. Having said that, I want to see Chisnall in the Premier League.

Anyway what's the chance of a BDO player winning the grand slam? How's scott waites faring this season?
 
Not at all, and I've never suggested that. He's an unbelievable darts player and does deserve recognition. When you look at most players playing at their best, that's usually Taylor's standard. Taylor at his best still blows anyone out of the water. But if no one did come close to him (MVG, van Barneveld, Wade etc.) then I wouldn't be watching as there's no competition. We watch sport for the competition and darts wouldn't provide it. It's why so many people want the favourite to lose, to remind us that it's still unwritten and unpredictable. I started watching last night for that reason but when you see that Chizzy hasn't turned up the competition element is wiped out.

But I don't like him. I don't like his attitude and I don't like the way he comes across.

Fair enough. I generally have no problem with how he comes across. Though I am aware through other darts players that he's not the nicest person off the oche either. I'm just not that bothered about it TBH. Im just blown away by his level of play and consistency.
 
Fair enough. I generally have no problem with how he comes across. Though I am aware through other darts players that he's not the nicest person off the oche either. I'm just not that bothered about it TBH. Im just blown away by his level of play and consistency.


Let's be honest here, being nice gets you nowhere especially when you want to be at the top, whether it's in sports or in the office or whatever, it's just a fact of life sadly. Phil needs a certain level of attitude and arrogance to maintain his decades of dominance, he's not an angel in darts but at least he's apologizes when he makes a mistake.

There's been plenty of "bad attitude" players in darts - Wade, Manley, Nicholson, Painter etc. I wouldn't even put Phil anywhere near these guys in terms of bad attitude and gamesmanship.
 
Let's be honest here, being nice gets you nowhere especially when you want to be at the top, whether it's in sports or in the office or whatever, it's just a fact of life sadly. Phil needs a certain level of attitude and arrogance to maintain his decades of dominance, he's not an angel in darts but at least he's apologizes when he makes a mistake.

There's been plenty of "bad attitude" players in darts - Wade, Manley, Nicholson, Painter etc. I wouldn't even put Phil anywhere near these guys in terms of bad attitude and gamesmanship.

Don't forget Lewis has had his moments too. They all do. Some are just fixated on finding anything against the Power because they are fed up of him winning.
 
This may sound stupid but Ive long felt that Taylor does shit like this to help up his own game.

Its happened on numerous occassions at this stage and usually in the run up to him competing in a final.

I thought this particular incident was actually tame and I for once I nearly agreed with Taylor.
 
Taylor looked faily poor and still won 3-1 last night. MVG didn't look far off being on form. Seems to have toned down his celebrations too, which is nice. Barney looked OK too.
 
Taylor looked faily poor and still won 3-1 last night. MVG didn't look far off being on form. Seems to have toned down his celebrations too, which is nice. Barney looked OK too.

What tournament was this and what channel is it on Stu?
 
Ah, found it. The Masters on ITV 4 at 6:45pm tonight.
 
Wade getting some serious booing here.
 
Think it is Lewis v Thorton, then Taylor v Newton and Barney v MVG last up. Whitlock looks set to knock out Wade.
 
Whoa final leg shootout.
 
fecking hell, that was an awesome match. feck knows how Wade pulled that off.
 
Did you see Wade getting couple of the more vocal fans thrown out earlier? He is a volatile character, but impressive checkout at the end then under pressure.