Darren Fletcher - Technical Director

If RR don't want him there then he won't be there.
And yet people keep saying that the players have something in their contracts that tie his hands.
I think it's just as likely that 'be nice to Fletcher' is on a list of requirements for accepting the job.
 
As a push-back to the arm-chair nonsense in this thread I reckon Fletcher will do well in his coaching/management career

Officially starting Fletcher FC with this post
 
The only time he's not there screaming at players on sideline, we lost. Shots 9 to 19, shots on target 2-6 to Wolves at Home.

Anyone missed him already?
 
The only time he's not there screaming at players on sideline, we lost. Shots 9 to 19, shots on target 2-6 to Wolves at Home.

Anyone missed him already?
Assuming this is some kind of joke?
 
I think he's part of the training staff now.

I always wondered where the clubs intention was to have him as the "clubs man" on the training pitch. Someone who feeds back how the morale is, the player-manager relationships are etc to the board.
 
He is still technical director, certainly been no announcements otherwise from the club.

He has always been in and around the training ground, he is a go between from the first team to board room effectively.
 
I think he's part of the training staff now.

I always wondered where the clubs intention was to have him as the "clubs man" on the training pitch. Someone who feeds back how the morale is, the player-manager relationships are etc to the board.
He was literally always supposed to be. His role is to help transition youth players to the first team, which involves training.
 
He is still technical director, certainly been no announcements otherwise from the club.

He has always been in and around the training ground, he is a go between from the first team to board room effectively.
Yeah even from when Ole was at the club. Just been more pronounced post-Ole.
 
When he was given the job as 'technical director' I thought it would be more in the background, not literally prowling the technical area on match days

Don't get misled by title. It was more like assistant to Football Director (initially) as the link with players, explaining to senior personnel who is new to the club on why we recruited Jones in the 1st place, how Jones fell to earth, and why we should put faith on Jones instead of spending millions on Maguire. he should be most hated by the Agents as opposite to his counterpart, who get the call from Agent 24x7 offering invitation for beer.

When Carrick and rest of the gang left, Fletcher transformed into assistant coach, since he was the only one left behind. Regardless of how you rate him as a staff, he stayed to help.

Now he should be back to assisting Murtough, this time to advice on Maguire and AWB etc.
 
I reiterate my point from a month ago. Rangnick sees Fletcher as a padawan of sorts in his ever-increasing school of coaches and directors. Don't be surprised if Rangnick is grooming Fletcher to be Rangnick after Rangnick's two-and-a-half year tenure is done.

Fletcher is an intelligent guy. Listen to his interviews for just a few minutes; listen to his analysis on football. It's not your bog standard Ole/Carrick trope-fest. Can see why Ralf would take a shining to him.

We literally said this every time

Keane would make a good coach
Gary's a genius on TV, he'll make a fine coach
Ole is a genius with positioning, he'll make a fine coach
Carrick is a midfield maestro, he'll make a fine coach

Turns out most of them are not a fine coach

Most lower league manager can spout some technical mumbo jumbo and still look smart. And no, Rangnick don't care about grooming, he's off to Austria and doesn't take Fletcher with him, Fletcher also doesn't show anything other than a shout here and there and pretends to be coaching. He's the technical Director isn' it? Why doesn't he voiced out against our shit purchases if he's that smart.
 
We literally said this every time

Keane would make a good coach
Gary's a genius on TV, he'll make a fine coach
Ole is a genius with positioning, he'll make a fine coach
Carrick is a midfield maestro, he'll make a fine coach

Turns out most of them are not a fine coach

Most lower league manager can spout some technical mumbo jumbo and still look smart. And no, Rangnick don't care about grooming, he's off to Austria and doesn't take Fletcher with him, Fletcher also doesn't show anything other than a shout here and there and pretends to be coaching. He's the technical Director isn' it? Why doesn't he voiced out against our shit purchases if he's that smart.
What kind of nonsense is this?
What reason would Fletcher have to go to Austria? He likely eanrs more at Man Utd than he would with the Austrian national team where he'd be junior to Rangnick rather than not reporting to him while he was at Man Utd except during the training sessions.
A shout here and there? What coach is on the touchline constantly except the manager? Or are you talking about the training sessions that only you supposedly have access to?
What do you mean voice out? You mean he should publicly go against his employers? For why?
 
We literally said this every time

Keane would make a good coach
Gary's a genius on TV, he'll make a fine coach
Ole is a genius with positioning, he'll make a fine coach
Carrick is a midfield maestro, he'll make a fine coach

Turns out most of them are not a fine coach

Most lower league manager can spout some technical mumbo jumbo and still look smart. And no, Rangnick don't care about grooming, he's off to Austria and doesn't take Fletcher with him, Fletcher also doesn't show anything other than a shout here and there and pretends to be coaching. He's the technical Director isn' it? Why doesn't he voiced out against our shit purchases if he's that smart.
Really says a lot about how generous we are when assessing manager talents. Have also been guilty in the past. Literally the most insignificant things. "ooh look at the passion in keane's phonetic pronounciations, true leader of men", "look how gary set his chips away from the fish to maximize dining freshness, never thought of that, reflects strong critical thinking, organisational thinking and an appreciation for the long term, will make a fine united manager one day" Then they come and cosplay Fergie except with crappy imitations.
 
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FFS whats with the constant negative spin on here?
 
FFS whats with the constant negative spin on here?

Strange place. I imagine he isn’t Technical Director currently, as we are doing okay, but come this evening and a derby defeat he will be again and it will be all his fault.

The Caf economic system is worse than Truss
 
We literally said this every time

Keane would make a good coach
Gary's a genius on TV, he'll make a fine coach
Ole is a genius with positioning, he'll make a fine coach
Carrick is a midfield maestro, he'll make a fine coach

Turns out most of them are not a fine coach
Some players are potentially good or great managers. Many of them fails and some of them succeed, but it’s almost impossible to predict who is going to succeed. It’s both about talent (clever understanding of football), timing or luck, and maybe the most important factor personality/charisma or leader skills.

Pep and Zidane was thrown into the highest level of managing, but both of them had very very good structures around them. Almost no fail mission, but what impressed was the fact they overachieved.

Arteta was also thrown into the game of managing. Arsenal has been patient and trusted him, which is pretty easy as long as the team makes progression. He has also been allowed to work in peace and quiet, because it’s Arsenal and not example United.

If the mentioned managers had joined United (between 2014 and today) at an early stage of their career, I think it’s more like they would’ve failed. To take over a fallen star is almost and impossible job. The next manager who brings us a PL or CL trophy is likely the best manager in the world and represents the “next big thing“ within managing after Pep and Klopp.

Maybe it will be ETH or maybe another up and coming manager like Arteta.
 
Made his United debut 20 years ago, so the club made an extended interview with him.

About his debut:

“It was amazing. It was against FC Basel in the Champions League and I was starting on the right wing.”

“I was 19 when I made my debut and a little bit of it was [thinking] 'this was meant to happen sooner.’ I had a lot of injury problems as a youth player, so I pretty much missed about 18 months, close to two years, with injuries.

“But listen, it's still young to make your Manchester United debut [at 19] and it was a special moment. It was what you’d tried to do your whole life. When you're young, everything’s geared towards making your debut and playing in the first team. It was an amazing feeling.”

“If I’m honest with you, I was quite relaxed about it (being invited to train at United) because I was just playing football, I didn’t overthink it.

“I’d already had Rangers and Celtic, big clubs in Scotland, asking me to go on trial and a couple of English clubs as well. I knew the Manchester United connection with Sir Alex Ferguson, it’s a massive club. But for me, I just took it in my stride as I was going to play football. It was another opportunity to play a match somewhere.

“I arrived on the Friday morning, trained Friday night, and played on the Saturday morning at Littleton Road. Then I went back to The Cliff [training ground] where I was quickly whizzed off to see Sir Alex Ferguson, so I must have played quite well in the game!

“I think there’s a famous picture of me with Sir Alex, I’ve got the blue-and-white away kit from the mid-90s on. Getting taken up to meet Sir Alex became a common thing for me from then. When I played in trial matches at The Cliff and Littleton Road, [the club] made sure I was taken up to see him.

“It just shows the attention to detail he had and the mystique around Manchester United and their young players.”


About his most talented team-mate:

“Straight away Scholesy springs to mind

”I think everyone always mentions Scholesy, and rightly so. But for me Giggsy as well.

“To play for that long, day in, day out... to watch him evolve and change his game from a flying winger, to play beside him in central midfield and control games as a midfielder, to play as many games as he did in the first team for such a long period...

“Giggsy had his testimonial before I had even made my debut and then I went on to play 10 years with Giggsy! That just shows you how amazing he is. So when you talk about legends and special players. Giggsy is right up there.”


About the best player he played against:

“I played against some wonderful players, but I do remember Kaka over two legs of a Champions League semi-final [in 2007]. He was the difference between the two teams.

“He was on a level above and, before his injuries, a world-class player who I thought to myself: 'Yeah that was a proper player.' He was a real difficult match-up [to play] against. I always reference back to Kaka.

“Not long after he left for Real Madrid and got that knee injury, but [during] that period at AC Milan I thought he was the best player in the world.”


About one match he would replay and alter if he could:

“The red card against Arsenal in the semi-final

“I will debate, at 4-0 up [on aggregate], whether I should make the tackle or not, but I played every minute of every game at full intensity, trying to do the best I can for the team.

“I still maintain it is a great tackle, but hindsight is a wonderful thing and if there was ever a moment I should have let somebody score, it might have been that one.”
 
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I remember losing my mind at his winning header against Chelsea in 2005. It felt like such a massive goal and win at the time, even though Chelsea still strolled to the title that year.
 
I remember losing my mind at his winning header against Chelsea in 2005. It felt like such a massive goal and win at the time, even though Chelsea still strolled to the title that year.

My first ever trip to Old Trafford. Special day.
 
Looking forward to the day our directors get interviewed about their current line of work, success and trophies rather than a trip down memory lane explaining why they're hired without having any credentials.

Why don't you send the club a request for such an interview?
 
Looking forward to the day our directors get interviewed about their current line of work, success and trophies rather than a trip down memory lane explaining why they're hired without having any credentials.
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Looking forward to the day our directors get interviewed about their current line of work, success and trophies rather than a trip down memory lane explaining why they're hired without having any credentials.

Didn't take long did it :lol:
 
Looking forward to the day our directors get interviewed about their current line of work, success and trophies rather than a trip down memory lane explaining why they're hired without having any credentials.

This
 
Didn't take long did it :lol:

I was thinking, he must be doing a fairly decent job if the thread hasn’t been bumped for six months. Not sure why anyone is expecting technical directors to be giving interviews on their roles :lol:
 
For someone to ask people to stay on topic in a thread about a technical director?

The thread is about Darren Fletcher. The interview is with Darren Fletcher. On the occasion of it being 20 years since he first played for Manchester United. Hence an interview about his career as a player for Manchester United.

You’d have to be a very sensitive soul to take offence at that interview being posted in this thread.
 
I remember losing my mind at his winning header against Chelsea in 2005. It felt like such a massive goal and win at the time, even though Chelsea still strolled to the title that year.

Everyone I was watching with, was adamant that it was a cross. I used to like and defend Fletcher a lot during his early days. Good times
 
The thread is about Darren Fletcher. The interview is with Darren Fletcher. On the occasion of it being 20 years since he first played for Manchester United. Hence an interview about his career as a player for Manchester United.

You’d have to be a very sensitive soul to take offence at that interview being posted in this thread.
Only tired of daily reminders that our club is run like a make-a-wish foundation. Fortunately this might all change in the next few months.