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I can't stand seeing him there, doesn't make much sense.
Now that McKenna has left, let's target Fletcher.
I can't stand seeing him there, doesn't make much sense.
Ah yeah fantastic point. Being a good player doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a good manager. I guess we need to sack him from the manager role he currently has. Well argued.What Fletcher has won as a player holds absolutely no bearing on his abilities as a coach or manager. Most of the time these two things are not connected. Zidane is an exception, not the rule. Sir Alex was not a great player but a great Manager. Maradonna was a great player and average manager.
Who knows who is better but I would leave the responsibility to Ralf and his coaching staff that he brought in
Now that McKenna has left, let's target Fletcher.
I trust him more than Ragnick. At least he understands what it takes to be successful. Ralf and his boys don’t know anything outside the MLS or the let-Bayern-beat-us-liga. Hopefully he’s still here well after the current staff are gone.
Well Ralf has either asked for it or us ok with itWho knows who is better but I would leave the responsibility to Ralf and his coaching staff that he brought in
You don’t think Ralf, a notorious control freak and micro manager, has asked Fletcher to assist with his coaching? You think Fletcher is just doing whatever he wants?
If so, I have a bridge to sell you…
That says more about youI can't stand seeing him there, doesn't make much sense.
Err.. noI wonder if there was too much redundancy in Murtough/Fletcher/Rangnick's future role and now they're just shoe horning him back into being a generic coach because he's an ex player and a nice guy etc etc
Good to see your posts are equally shit when outside the F1 threads. If only we could start playing with such consistency.I wonder if there was too much redundancy in Murtough/Fletcher/Rangnick's future role and now they're just shoe horning him back into being a generic coach because he's an ex player and a nice guy etc etc
Well Ralf has either asked for it or us ok with it
So Ralf and his trusted coaching team is asking fletcher to get his views and tactics across on the pitch?
Fletcher presence in the technical area is instructed by the senior management team IMO
That says more about you
Anyone see Fletcher giving instructions towards the end of the game and Mike Phelan leaning against the brick wall like he was some sort of security personnel
I think it’s crazy how people are now turning on Fletcher yet are ok with MLS coaches coming in
here’s the thing, it doesn’t matter. Find something else to worry about in your lives
This is absolute nonsense. Ralf is the manager. There is zero chance he would just let someone undermine him and take over the coaching of the team… that’s insane.
No they don't, it's absolutely mental.More concerned about Darren Fletcher than Chris Armas or Ewan Sharp… bizarre.
Do other clubs’ fans do this? Fixate on who the manager’s assistants are and what they do? I’m sure it’s just United’s weird fan base.
More concerned about Darren Fletcher than Chris Armas or Ewan Sharp… bizarre.
I'm not targeting anyone, but how many clubs have a Technical Director acting as an assistant manager? What has Fletcher achieved as a coach? He's only coached the under 16's.
Didn't we just sign that Ewan Sharp guy to be the assistant manager?
It just seems like muddled thinking all round. Not good.
I do see the point of wondering about the guy who got the job based on his history with the club and has since moved jobs with no one really understanding what he is actually doing, rather than the coaches brought in by the new, well respected manager.
We must be the only fanbase in history who needs to know the intimate details of everyone's job from the U11s coach to the tea lady. I don't think there's a single person's opinion on this board regarding our coaching staff that isn't worth immediately discarding, because we don't know.
No they don't, it's absolutely mental.
I was saying no because you insinuate that Fletcher is in his job because he’s a nice guy. I’m saying that’s nonsense. He’s a very smart guy who murtough hired. Him helping out at the sidelines is probably nothing more than developing Fletcher in various aspectsNo to what?
There's definitely going to be redundancy once Ralf goes into his consultancy role. Forget Fletcher, even just between him and Murtough. Normally there's no chance the sporting director would want to hire an interim manager who would then go on to take an almost identical role to them with a different job title. It's only happened because Murtough really rates Rangnick and wants to work with him.
The coaching is just one aspect of his wide ranging roleNo problems with Fletch but if he is an assistant coach, just call him an 'assistant coach'
Why all the fancy titles?
No problems with Fletch but if he is an assistant coach, just call him an 'assistant coach'
Why all the fancy titles?
The coaching is just one aspect of his wide ranging role
Did you see Murtough quote? This is just one part of his job.
I don't have issue with him coaching at all. Not now there's someone there with experience for them to learn from. I'd take Carrick back and ditch the MLS guy as well if given the choice.
But I think Rangnick becoming a second DOF will probably mean Fletcher will have to tread the path of the coach rather than the technical director long term.
I never said or implied he needed to be sacked. No need to make stuff up and lie. You said that Fletcher “won lots of shit as a player” and I just told you why it holds no bearing on his current role.Ah yeah fantastic point. Being a good player doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll be a good manager. I guess we need to sack him from the manager role he currently has. Well argued.
I don’t know how it will work between murtough and RR. That is the question. But I would assume that Fletcher would still do his various roles as they are nowI don't have issue with him coaching at all. Not now there's someone there with experience for them to learn from. I'd take Carrick back and ditch the MLS guy as well if given the choice.
But I think Rangnick becoming a second DOF will probably mean Fletcher will have to tread the path of the coach rather than the technical director long term.
I knowWhere to even start with this
No. You responded to a post where I explained how he would be very useful to Ralf as a conduit to winning over the players - what with him actually being a winner undoubtedly respected in the dressing room - which is part of his actual role. You then told me being a good player has no bearing on being a good manager or coach. His current role isn’t being a manager or coach - so what the feck that or Maradona has to do with anything is a bit of a mystery.I never said or implied he needed to be sacked. No need to make stuff up and lie. You said that Fletcher “won lots of shit as a player” and I just told you why it holds no bearing on his current role.
Our very own manager, Michael Emenalo formerly of Chelsea and many more on the continent.I'm not targeting anyone, but how many clubs have a Technical Director acting as an assistant manager? What has Fletcher achieved as a coach? He's only coached the under 16's.
Didn't we just sign that Ewan Sharp guy to be the assistant manager?
It just seems like muddled thinking all round. Not good.
To you.... SorryEveryone is confused about his role. Never knew technical directors are involved in coaching. Does he be on the training ground? If not what the feck is he doing shouting instructions on the sideline?
If he is a coach why was he given the technical title that suggested he would be more involved in planning and transfers and the like?
Nothing about it makes sense.