Darmian to Juventus?

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Massive Spanner said:
He was nothing short of absolutely awful for us. At times I was genuinely baffled as to how he managed to become a professional footballer because he looked completely devoid of any sort of ability. Maybe he was good at Torino and for Italy and maybe he just really, really was unable to transition into the PL cause I can't see how, based on his performances for us at least, anyone could want him.
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What? Awful? Are you drunk?

There have only been a handful of genuine 'awful' players for United and Darmian is far from one of those. He hasn't been great by a long shot, but there is an enourmous difference between mediocre and 'awful'.

Definitely reconsider your choice of words.
 
Davs said:
What? Awful? Are you drunk?

There have only been a handful of genuine 'awful' players for United and Darmian is far from one of those. He hasn't been great by a long shot, but there is an enourmous difference between mediocre and 'awful'.

Definitely reconsider your choice of words.
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In terms of what we need in that position and what he offers to the team as a whole, yeah he’s been quite shite. Awful certainly isn’t exaggerating.
 
Davs said:
What? Awful? Are you drunk?

There have only been a handful of genuine 'awful' players for United and Darmian is far from one of those. He hasn't been great by a long shot, but there is an enourmous difference between mediocre and 'awful'.

Definitely reconsider your choice of words.
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He's one of the worst players I've ever seen wear the shirt.
 
LennonNL said:
In terms of what we need in that position and what he offers to the team as a whole, yeah he’s been quite shite. Awful certainly isn’t exaggerating.
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Saying you don't understand how Italy's right back become a footballer isn't going to give you much credibility in fairness. Hysterical comment to make.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Saying you don't understand how Italy's right back become a footballer isn't going to give you much credibility in fairness. Hysterical comment to make.
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When did I say that?

Edit: if you’re on about the match day thread a few days ago it was after he miscontrolled an easy pass. Suppose sarcasm isn’t easily readable on tinternet, but surely you didn’t think I was being serious :lol:
 
LennonNL said:
In terms of what we need in that position and what he offers to the team as a whole, yeah he’s been quite shite. Awful certainly isn’t exaggerating.
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Can you provide any solid argument or is he just 'awful' because you said so? He's not good going forward but reliable defensively.

Offside said:
He's one of the worst players I've ever seen wear the shirt.
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This is crazy. You think Darmian is bad as the likes of Luke Chadwick/Kleberson/David Bellion?

Like seriously those are the guys you need to group him with if you think he is one of the worst ever - which I think is a massive over exaggeration.

Give me a solid reason and I may change my mind. As I said to the quote above, he isn't a good attacking fullback, but reliable defensively. Tell me why he's one of the 'worst ever United players to wear the shirt'.
 
Davs said:
Can you provide any solid argument or is he just 'awful' because you said so? He's not good going forward but reliable defensively.
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His ball control is abysmal, he simply can’t cross to save his life, he’s slow, awkward in possession and always plays it safe. He must be the worst type of player to play with as a right winger because he never makes overlapping runs, and he’s prone to making a few mistakes. The only thing he’s got going for him as you said is he’s a decent defender, Everton level at best.

Why do you think he’s fit to wear the shirt? What on Earth has he proven to you?
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Saying you don't understand how Italy's right back become a footballer isn't going to give you much credibility in fairness. Hysterical comment to make.
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Thank you. Outrageous. Ridiculous over fabrication of how bad one of our CURRENT squad players is.

Yes he may be on his way out but Jesus, he is nowhere near as bad as people are saying.

Anyone would think he received 3 red cards, scored 7 own goals and conceded 5 penalties during his very brief stint with us.
 
LennonNL said:
His ball control is abysmal, he simply can’t cross to save his life, he’s slow, awkward in possession and always plays it safe. He must be the worst type of player to play with as a right winger because he never makes overlapping runs, and he’s prone to making a few mistakes. The only thing he’s got going for him as you said is he’s a decent defender, Everton level at best.

Why do you think he’s fit to wear the shirt? What on Earth has he proven to you?
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So you've just said he is Everton level at best, but one of the worst players to wear our shirt?

I'm pretty sure there are a fair few ex-United players playing at lesser clubs than Everton.
 
Davs said:
So you've just said he is Everton level at best, but one of the worst players to wear our shirt?

I'm pretty sure there are a fair few ex-United players playing at lesser clubs than Everton.
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I didn’t say he’s one of the worst players to wear the shirt, you’re getting me mixed up with the other fella. I said in terms of what he actually offers to the team he’s been shite. Need to do better.
 
LennonNL said:
I didn’t say he’s one of the worst players to wear the shirt, you’re getting me mixed up with the other fella. I said in terms of what he actually offers to the team he’s been shite. Need to do better.
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Yep. Fair enough that he's not good enough for our first team and we do need to do better when our full backs are in question. That 100% I can agree on. He's not going to make a difference for us in a game and I think in the modern game full backs are more than just 'defenders'. Hopefully DD is more contributing towards our attackong phases of play than Darmian was.

I don't agree with the 'awful' comments mind and the downright hatred towards the guy.

I've got nothing to defend him for, but nothing to hate him against. He was never going to be our first choice right back, but can do a job for you in games where defenders need rotating. Certainly not an awful player by any means.

Still, if we do sell him it is the right decision. Assuming DD was brought in at the start of the window knowing we would be losing/selling Darmian at some point this summer.
 
Davs said:
What? Awful? Are you drunk?

There have only been a handful of genuine 'awful' players for United and Darmian is far from one of those. He hasn't been great by a long shot, but there is an enourmous difference between mediocre and 'awful'.

Definitely reconsider your choice of words.
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I've reconsidered and I have decided he was awful.
 
r3idy said:
Hope he turns it around. He played decent in his first full season until he had a stinker against Arsenal away. LVG pretty much dropped him, hung him out to dry and he never recaptured any decent form.
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He started the next game and like 8 of the next 10 games after that Arsenal game and continued to play regularly the rest of the season.

His poor form wasn't through lack of matches.
 
Davs said:
Thank you. Outrageous. Ridiculous over fabrication of how bad one of our CURRENT squad players is.

Yes he may be on his way out but Jesus, he is nowhere near as bad as people are saying.

Anyone would think he received 3 red cards, scored 7 own goals and conceded 5 penalties during his very brief stint with us.
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How anyone can say that Darmian's had a brief stint with us? :lol: He's been here over three years which felt like ten. He shouldn't have stayed more than one.
 
Davs said:
What? Awful? Are you drunk?

There have only been a handful of genuine 'awful' players for United and Darmian is far from one of those. He hasn't been great by a long shot, but there is an enourmous difference between mediocre and 'awful'.

Definitely reconsider your choice of words.
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Never mind drunk are you high?

Come on mate it's been 3 years now, he has been awful i've no idea how anyone can still deny that. He can't or won't attack, he is atrocious with the ball at his feet, his distribution involves either panicking and hoofing it in any direction he can or passing it 3 feet to whoever is closest to him.

His defending isn't anything to write home about either, i doubt theres a winger in the league who hasn't skinned him for fun. And his stamina is atrocious for a career fullback, and thats without him even getting up and down the pitch to support the attack.

He has been awful for United, truly awful which is why United want rid of him and even the Italian sides don't want to pay much which says it all.
 
stevoc said:
Never mind drunk are you high?

Come on mate it's been 3 years now, he has been awful i've no idea how anyone can still deny that. He can't or won't attack, he is atrocious with the ball at his feet, his distribution involves either panicking and hoofing it in any direction he can or passing it 3 feet to whoever is closest to him.

His defending isn't anything to write home about either, i doubt theres a winger in the league who hasn't skinned him for fun. And his stamina is atrocious for a career fullback, and thats without him even getting up and down the pitch to support the attack.

He has been awful for United, truly awful which is why United want rid of him and even the Italian sides don't want to pay much which says it all.
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I'm surprised so many teams are after him. Feels more like it's United spreading rumours for a bidding war - now Benfica is supposedly looking to join the fun.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
I'm surprised so many teams are after him. Feels more like it's United spreading rumours for a bidding war - now Benfica is supposedly looking to join the fun.
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Well the 3 Italian sides are not interested in the player he has been for United thats for sure. They are hoping for a cheap punt they can get the player he used to be for Torino and Italy.

The only way we are offloading him is a loan i think, no club with any sense is going to pay decent money for a player who's been consistently awful for 3 years.
 
Is it just me, or has Darmian supposedly been in transfer talks since approximately two months before we signed him?
 
He's been hopeless.

Absolutely non existent as an attacking outlet and slow, nervous and weak in the tackle defensively. In all his time here i think he had a good opening month and a good Europa League final. The rest has been awful.
 
It's crazy we couldn't get rid of him. I'm glad we didn't let any of the Italians fart around with stupid loan deals though. I hope he doesn't get near the starting XI again this season. Liability defensively and about as impotent as a 115 year old man going forward.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
It's crazy we couldn't get rid of him. I'm glad we didn't let any of the Italians fart around with stupid loan deals though. I hope he doesn't get near the starting XI again this season. Liability defensively and about as impotent as a 115 year old man going forward.
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Why? I'd prefer him to leave on a free rather than stinking up our squad and taking minutes off Young, Shaw, Valencia or Dalot. I'd also much have preferred to keep TFM or Tuanzebe around.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
So they didn't get their own way. I can't stand that insistence on loans first bollocks.
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To be honest with Darmian i don't blame any team for wanting a loan first before committing to buy. While the Italian sides will be hoping he can recapture his Torino Serie A form, they will also be wary of a player who's been so awful for 3 years.

I assume United have an optional year on his contract, but unless he has one of the most dramatic turnarounds in form in the history of football. Then i hope the club just let his contract expire and allow him to leave on a free next summer.
 
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Imagine United triggering the option in an effort to sell for a profit, only to keep asking too much and ending up with him for an extra season :D
 
Sometimes you don't sell someone at a lower value merely to set a precedent that you won't be low balled.

During LVG era we got a reputation for wanting rid at any cost and even though they were on highish wages the likes of Rafael, Evans, Zaha, Kagawa, Fletcher, Evra, Nani, RVP etc were undersold.

For the sake of €15m it's better to send a message that we aren't a bargain bin for these clubs to pick up rejects on the cheap. As was the case with Schneiderlin, Depay, McNair and Janujaz we've sent out a message that our rejects are still good players that aren't available at any price.

If Juventus want him they can pay the kind of fee that a first choice International full back who's proven in their league should command. In a market where Danny Rose is being touted for over £40m... £18m is very reasonable.
 
Come to think of it even his name sounds like a synonym for appalling. He has to go.
 
Darmien is like Schneiderlin was. Not terrible but after the game you're like "oh was he playing today"? Too mediocre for united.
 
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Dont think the board will agree with some of you.Business wise doesnot make sense to see him go for free.but i thought the europa league final would kickstart his career.he is probably a midtable team player.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
No-brainer really. Like our board. We got him for the same amount three years ago when he was 25 and promising, not when he's 28 and a turd.
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I think someone was in for him at around €15m. I'm all for not letting our players leave for peanuts (like they used to do), but you have to pick your battles!
 
USREDEVIL said:
Darmien is like Schneiderlin was. Not terrible but after the game you're like "oh was he playing today"? Too mediocre for united.
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Plenty of games where he actually was terrible, way more bad games than good anyway.
 
The logic that we trigger their extension clauses to recoup a fee is very shaky and I'm not sure why people keep saying it. These players are on wages that make them undesirable to other clubs. We've been in the business long enough to know the struggles we have moving overpaid benchwarmers with little upside. The rojo extension for example was a brainfart of epic proportions on the part of Ed and Jose
 
I still can’t get over how shit Darmian is. Them Italian twitter folk absolutely had us. I thought he was the Italian Cafu.
 
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