I fancy Welbeck to have a good season. Seems like he is just missing 1 thing to make him a top player. The potential remains for him to discover that '1 thing' and become a really good striker for us.
Danny Welbeck to Hull for £10m?
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I think Welbeck will make the step up this season to be amongst the top scorers in the league this season if given enough playing time.
Lukaku is younger and has proven he can score consistently in the PL playing for inferior teams to United.
Unfortunately Welbeck has not established or proven himself as yet - though he does have a superior all-round game than Lukaku. Regardless he wouldn't go for anywhere near 20+ million.
Don't want Welbz to go, especially seeing as now with our new formation his chances will pretty much be as a striker where he wants to be and also with Hernandez looking like he might be heading out he will be first in line behind Rooney and RVP for any rotation and/or injuries amongst the strikers.
For who exactly? OR do you mean squad?
In for Giroud? I don't think Giroud is awful but I don't think he suits the rest of your team and tends to go missing when it matters. Welbeck's pace, power, skill on the ball and link up play would benefit you a lot more then what Giroud does and given the consistent first team football and the chances he'd get, I think his finishing would vastly improve too. It'd be like the Sturridge situation, finding the team for him where he'll get games and him suiting the team.
Giroud just always looks out of place when he plays and he's very inconsistent.
Though saying walk in is a bit much I'll admit. I think he'd definitely get into your starting 11 ahead of Giroud though.
Agree with this. He'd be brilliant for Arsenal I think, or even Liverpool.
To be fair no one would want to pay big money for a striker who didn't score more than a few over past few seasons.
I rate him though and think we shouldn't let him go.
I rate him though and think we shouldn't let him go.
You're shitting me. Absolutely no chance, have you watched Giroud play for Arsenal? His link up play is one of his strongest attributes
It's good but I wouldn't say it's much better then Welbecks, Welbecks movement afterwards definitely more then makes up the difference anyway. Arsenal have plenty of players for the link up play anyways, they need pace and power and Welbeck once he gets the confidence that comes with being a first team player I think would be great for them.
Giroud every now and then goes through good runs of form where he gets goals, but he just always looks out of place playing for them when they would be much better off with a hard working, fast and powerful striker, which Welbeck has the potential to be.
They have plenty of pace and power in Sanchez, Walcott, and Ramsey from the midfield. Welbeck would do a job there, but he's not walking into Arsenal's starting 11
How many games did they both play? I guess if you're going to use 'starts' as a point then a more accurate comparison would be minutes/goals ratio... I have no idea who comes out on top there.
For what it's worth - I don't think he's a better player than Lukaku presently, though he does have a more well rounded game.
We need him.
Mata, as a great a player as he is, has no pace!
RVP, as great a striker as he is, has no pace!
Wayne, as scouse as he, has no pace! (You'd think he would from robbing hubcaps but there ye go)
We need pace up front badly and Danny is the only one who can provide it. Rightly or wrongly
Unless we bung Tony V up there....Or better yet, Ashley Young......Safe to say Welbeck should not be sold
Mata, as a great a player as he is, has no pace!
RVP, as great a striker as he is, has no pace!
Wayne, as scouse as he, has no pace! (You'd think he would from robbing hubcaps but there ye go)
We need pace up front badly and Danny is the only one who can provide it. Rightly or wrongly
Unless we bung Tony V up there....Or better yet, Ashley Young......Safe to say Welbeck should not be sold
Where the hell has this come from
I think he'll play his way into the first team this season if we stick with the 352.
This thread keeps getting better. Welbeck? Starting for Arsenal? Ahead of Giroud? 
And we laugh at RAWK for saying Henderson is bettter than Ramsey. Welbeck is a Manc Ameobi.
And we laugh at RAWK for saying Henderson is bettter than Ramsey. Welbeck is a Manc Ameobi.Nowhere. The thread has just managed to pick up momentum because the Caf's resident spackers have decided it'd be a good place to bash Welbeck.
Welbeck is overrated at United. He's technically gifted however his finishing is meah.
However he will never leave OT. He's a homegrown talent, possibly on a low end salary, his pace can do some real damage and he's loved by the fans. You don't sell a player like that unless he wants to leave.
However he will never leave OT. He's a homegrown talent, possibly on a low end salary, his pace can do some real damage and he's loved by the fans. You don't sell a player like that unless he wants to leave.
My thought is that Lukaku is worth around 18-20 million and Wellbeck 15 million. Chelsea cannot seem to do anything wrong in this transfer window.
One of the frustrating things is that good as United are at making deals (money) they are shit poor at selling players with a few exceptions (Ronaldo, Beckham excepted).
I always feel that are players are sold for far less than other clubs would have got if they were selling them.
This thread keeps getting better. Welbeck? Starting for Arsenal? Ahead of Giroud?
Not a fan of people laughing at their own posts but that last sentence really is laughable. You just got the smilie in the wrong place.
Interesting. Would love to know how they compare if you remove all the minutes Welbeck played on the wing.
Apparently one of these two strikers is a "Manc Ameobi" who is massively over-rated, can't score for shit and should be sold if we can anywhere near 15m quid for him.
The other, less prolific striker, just changed clubs for almost twice that. Go figure.
You get lots of spacker opinions on here about United players. Always have done. It's just a shame that the players who should be cut the most slack often seem to be the least appreciated. You're more likely to see people looking for excuses for expensive foreign imports than you are local lads, who've been at the club all their footballing life. How did that happen?
At the expense of who, Rooney or RVP?
I don't see how he won't get plenty of game-time though, especially if Hernandez is sold.
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Welbeck is worth no where near that amount.
Would Welbeck be willing to join a team that's midtable though? Top teams probably wouldn't pay more than £10-15m or so for him and midtable teams that would probably pay slightly more probably won't be attractive to the player.
This thread keeps getting better. Welbeck? Starting for Arsenal? Ahead of Giroud?
I don't think he's that good, but that latter statement is shite tbf.
Lukaku has scored twice as many Premier league goals as Welbeck.
I presume that's why he is valued as twice as much.
In fact, Lukaku has scored more premier league goals than Welbeck in the past two seasons than Welbeck has scored league goals total.
I'm late to the party, have hull actually made a bid? Has this come from a reputable source?
I would quite comfortably rather see Hernandez leave in order to keep Welbeck. He clearly is undervalued outside of Manchester United, but inside he is worth a lot more than £10m. When you see Ross McCormack signing to Fulham for £11m, its an insult to think Welbeck could go for less.
I don't think we should sell him, and if we did definitely for more than £10m, that's a bit of an insult. He's pacey (something we lack up front), good at creating room, hard working, home-grown... Don't see what we'd gain selling him for that little, would be disappointed if this happened.
Rooney and RVP will need to be rested at one time.
I'm not sure. So many things could happen this season in regard to our team selections. However, if Welbeck was starring in this system after a run of games, and I think that is very possible, I'd like to think Van Gaal has a bigger set of nackers than his predecessor and does what's right for the team instead of shoehorning Rooney and Van Persie into the same side.
Goodbye, Daniel, I'm going to miss you the most.
That whole goals per minute thing go right over your head?
Silly really. The obvious retort was to mention their relative ages.
I am not debating your point, I pointed out a possible reason why one is x price and one is y.
Only time will tell if Welbeck goes on to be a good striker.
More paper talk and people jumping all over it.
Surely we can discuss it if Hull actually make a bid? And if I decent offer comes in, say £15m then I think it's a good deal for all parties.
Surely we can discuss it if Hull actually make a bid? And if I decent offer comes in, say £15m then I think it's a good deal for all parties.
To be fair Lukaku can put the ball in the net, Welbeck struggles with that part of his game, which is odd for a striker.
Plus Lukaku is younger and has the attributes to go on to be a world beater.
I'm glad it's still possible to find the odd sensible post in the transfer forum.
Why would you rather have an extra £15m on the club balance sheet than Danny Welbeck in the squad?
Invest in other areas where we need to strengthen more?
Does everybody forget his loan spell to Sunderland? He was awesome that year.
We have no shortage of money. There is absolutely no upside to selling Welbeck, especially not for £15m.
How much is he worth in your opinion? And if we have no shortage of money why are we not spending any?