It's not only that. We're sending him to Arsenal, team that's looking pretty good, who's missing a striker ( and Danny will be a very good option for them ) and against whom we'll be fighting for the top 4.
This move is simply idiotic.
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It's not only that. We're sending him to Arsenal, team that's looking pretty good, who's missing a striker ( and Danny will be a very good option for them ) and against whom we'll be fighting for the top 4.
This move is simply idiotic.
Agreed. The notion that "oh, he's not 18-20, he's not a "talent" anymore" is silly to me. A few players in a generation are the kind that are top tier from their early 20s till they hang up their boots, most are good players who have a few seasons on top. Zidane was 24 before he went to Juventus and showed himself off at the world stage, and he and others got to ply their trade week in week out in their favourite position.
It seems so obvious to me that Danny Welbeck has so much in his locker and will reach an impressive plateau sooner rather than later. Time will tell, I guess.
Falcao & Rooney on the pitch
RVP & Wilson on the bench
RVP & Wilson on the bench
Its not embarrassing at all this is a awful move from us.
Falcao & Rooney on the pitch
RVP & Wilson on the bench
I'd rather have a fit RVP on the pitch over Rooney.
Not that young but young nevertheless. LVG hasn't even had enough time to properly evaluate him. I don't think preseason and a few sub appearances are enough to fully gauge a player. Do you think if Danny stayed and replicated his 6 in 6 scoring form from last season, that LVG would sell him in January? He'd see the potential he has when given the chance in his best position. The only reason we're letting him go is because players like RVP and Rooney are undroppable. Those players are aging. LVG knows he's only here for a few years.
Welbeck is 4 years younger than Falcao. Falcao is 28 right now. If he stays injury free I'm pretty sure we can get 4 good years off him. At least.
Falcao, RvP and Rooney or Rooney, RvP, Hernandez and Welbeck? I'm going to pick the first one for sure.
We have got him on loan, with another 43m to pay to get him outright. Welbeck has great potential but has been played out of position. He is a talented product from our academy, something as a club we USED to give a damn about but not so more it seems. People then come out with theres more talents but they will end up the same unless they are given game time. Lawrence, another good prospect has also left. But hey, forget all that, lets spend another 50m on someone.
Don't worry, Wilson similar potential to Welbeck-he is just a better finisher though.
I don't get how people can rate him so highly. So what if we go into next season with just ageing the Rooney, RVP and inexperienced Wilson. We'd have had to spend money to replace them anyway, Welbeck isn't good enough
We can buy a younger striker in a year or two. That would be needed even with Welbeck here.
If Welbeck wasn't English, or a local lad even, there would not be such an outbreak.
Our only other option, as far as I can make out, was Spurs, who are also likely to be battling us for 4th. At the end of the day, Danny is a decent player, but he's not up there with Rooney, RVP, or Falcao. We have improved our team immensely here. What would you rather, we kept an unhappy player on the bench, just so as not to improve Arsenal? Incidentally, I only think he'll improve them marginally. We've got 16 million for a player who really wasn't going to figure much this year, unless we have a lot of injuries.
It's about more than that, though. United have always prided themselves in giving our own talents a chance and creating a solid, sustainable foundation for the future. Many United fans have thought of United as a club with a bit higher moral standard than most other clubs, a club where loyalty is rewarded and works both ways.
Now we're shipping out the brightest talent to have emerged from the Academy in years (pre-Januzaj), to a rival even, and instead we're throwing money around like we're the new Galacticos. And some of us are just wondering, what has happened to my club?
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How is it awful? he wasn't good enough to start for us so he left and as a result we've signed a world class striker and will most likely promote a top prospect in Wilson. It's a great deal aside from the emotional side of things.
I think the best medicine for the loss of Welbeck...would be a cameo from Wilson in the next home match.
Yeah because he'll get alot of games this season
. When he eventually does, we'll probably play him out of position too then complain his goal scoring record isn't very good.Indeed. So much for LVG's long term planning.
There should be an option in the homepage poll for "I'm irrationally upset". I think that covers a lot of us.
Why did that have to be the choice? Hernandez was always going to leave but Welbeck didn't have to. If one had to go we should've got rid of Van Persie who's 31, been shite for a year and doesn't seem to give a monkeys.
And a hat-trick from him too.
Why would we waste money buying another striker in a year's time when we had a talented striker from our academy on our books. Keeping throwing money, great solution. We can aspire to be like City maybe.
Do you honestly think Louis isn't aware of Danny's majestic 6 in 6 last season? Do you think he hasn't even remotely watched our games from last year? Or spoken to Giggs? Of course he knows about it. He juts knows that Falcao is far better, and perhaps he also thinks that Wilson is worth time too.
Agreed. But I don't see who'd buy him on his wages, assuming he'd want a wage match.
Amen.
I wouldn't have fed our direct rivals no matter what.
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Well Welbeck and Hernandez had clearly been told a few days back they were free to go, I don't think Falcao was in the plan but he's worth the gamble tbh.
Yeah, I mean just look at the outpouring of grief in the Cleverley thread. Oh wait...
I doubt many would be disappointed that we've upgraded on Welbeck with Falcao and another forward who can provide us with instant quality up front. The main issue here is that whether this extra instant quality up front was really necessary when we already have van Persie and Rooney providing that. Plus, in 2-3 years time, we'll have 3 strikers in their 30's with only Wilson ready to step up.
I don't know if sacrificing the future for the present again will be worth it, overall, particularly when the upgrade is done in an area where we're well-stocked.
Because LvG is in excellent terms with RvP. Add to that making Rooney captain and Falcao at the moment better than both of them and where does that leave Welbeck? Having in mind that we do not have Europe this year and only FA cup and Premiership.
There's no point in keeping him in the current situation. He's not that young anymore he needs to be a regular.
Or Cleverley. Check out his thread.
He is only 19 years old. Has plenty of time.Yeah because he'll get alot of games this season
IN my opinion Wellbeck is not good enough for a team that would like to become top dogs, so I feel no problem with him leaving. He takes too long to get a shot off and is as slow as fcuk. If you have an ambition for United to have Wellbeck up front then you really need a session at a head examining unit. Van Gaal will make United good again and he has realised that Wellbeck is too slow to be a front player as he needs enough time to be able to read the manufacturers name on the ball. Wellbeck is a produce of Uniteds youth. And he is a good plaer but we need faster thinking players. Our aim is to be the best, and not the almost best.
That's a shame, innit.
Welbeck is still only 24, he's never been given a decent shot up front. No point saying he has plenty of time blah blah blah when we spend big money on players, they will expect game time.
If he was happy to spend his entire career here as 3rd/4th choice striker, the occasional option out wide and the guy we use to for his work-rate and defensive contribution in certain big matches, then it would have been ideal and fantastic if he stayed.
He didn't want that. He's been saying for a couple years he wants to play as a centre forward. He's also dismissed criticism of his finishing, adamant that he deserves to be starting upfront through the middle. So, it's best if he moves. He'd never be a centre forward for us.
I also have to assume we have no strong intention to play a 433 - otherwise we surely would have kept Welbeck as he'd potentially earn a starting place as a wide forward. So, we've got to assume that we're looking at playing a midfield diamond...
He didn't want that. He's been saying for a couple years he wants to play as a centre forward. He's also dismissed criticism of his finishing, adamant that he deserves to be starting upfront through the middle. So, it's best if he moves. He'd never be a centre forward for us.
I also have to assume we have no strong intention to play a 433 - otherwise we surely would have kept Welbeck as he'd potentially earn a starting place as a wide forward. So, we've got to assume that we're looking at playing a midfield diamond...
Not sure if serious.
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