Danny Welbeck | Manchester United: 2001-2014

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A loan deal to everton would be perfect. Play a 4-3-3, use 1 of the strikers, let Welbeck be first choice for Everton up front along side Lukaku in for Naismith and he'd fit in really well I think. 1 year as a striker playing consistently would do him a world of good, and Van Persie won't be a starter for too long anyways. A 1 year loan, potentially 2 year loan and then it would be time for him to be a starter as the main man up front.
 
Keep him around please. Such a versatile player. We're definitely worse off without him. Guess it must be Danny angling for a move if he does leave.. that would be a real shame.
 
We'd be crazy to let him go. His pace is invaluable to us right now.

Hernandez just doesn't fit us anymore and adds nothing to us. Rooney and Van Persie are great but he offers something different.
 
Playing for Martinez will be good for him in terms of similarity with how LvG plays, but we are strengthening one of our rivals for 4th.
 
Pexbo said:
We'd be crazy to let him go. His pace is invaluable to us right now.

Hernandez just doesn't fit us anymore and adds nothing to us. Rooney and Van Persie are great but he offers something different.
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This is very situational, I would think that if we switch to a 1 striker system, Di Maria and Januzaj will always get picked ahead of him on the wings and he faces the same problem in the striker position where van Gaal will most likely pick RVP or Rooney. He wouldn't get more than a backup role in a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 with Di Maria coming in.
 
Better than selling him, for sure. He'd shine under Martinez, I reckon. But yeah, agree that it wouldn't be good for our top 4 chances.
 
Would be bizarre to get rid of him if we keep hernandez. Wouldnt be surprised if we get rid of both.

Good player but he just doesnt have the composure nor the finishing to be a great, he'll always play second fiddle to a main striker at utd, obviously its not what he wants, cant blame him.
 
You lot might laugh but the way Naismith has been playing since the 2nd half of last season Welbeck will struggle to dislodge him. I like Welbeck though and I would be more than happy with a loan or transfer.
 
24 is too late for a loan. And he 2 year left on his contract. Team should just sell.
 
I think he'd be brilliant for us in a wide role in a 4-3-3 with him, Lukaku and Mirallas as the attacking trio.
 
I'd start him ahead of both Rooney and RVP at the moment. That's how highly I rate him. He brings so much pace and movement to the gane and makes everyone else look better. Really don't want to see him leave.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Loan to Everton would be great. Quality manager. Decent football and an option to come back to United afterwards.

Still think we'll be weakened by his departure but if he's digging his heels in about gametime then so be it.
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Agree with that. Shouldn't be sold and if he is loaned we need to make it count, game time and guidance. I'd prefer a front two including Welbeck to Rooney+Van Persie tbh.
 
bosnian_red said:
A loan deal to everton would be perfect. Play a 4-3-3, use 1 of the strikers, let Welbeck be first choice for Everton up front along side Lukaku in for Naismith and he'd fit in really well I think. 1 year as a striker playing consistently would do him a world of good, and Van Persie won't be a starter for too long anyways. A 1 year loan, potentially 2 year loan and then it would be time for him to be a starter as the main man up front.
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Considering he has 2 years left on his contract, a 12 month loan would only put United in a very difficult position negotiating wise on his return.
 
RuudTom83 said:
Considering he has 2 years left on his contract, a 12 month loan would only put United in a very difficult position negotiating wise on his return.
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RvP and Rooney aren't getting any younger, and at the moment none of them should be that much ahead of him anyway considering the performances they've shown recently. He could be alot more important for us a year on and if we can guarantee him a larger role in the squad why wouldn't he want to stay?
 
JohnnyLaw said:
RvP and Rooney aren't getting any younger, and at the moment none of them should be that much ahead of him anyway considering the performances they've shown recently. He could be alot more important for us a year on and if we can guarantee him a larger role in the squad why wouldn't he want to stay?
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If Welbeck improved that much in a season to be considered good enough to lead the line for United. Then i would assume all the top four would be contacting his agent telling him how much they would be prepared to pay him.

Which puts United in a difficult position and would result in paying a striker (who has asked to leave twice in the last two season) huge wages to keep him.

I am not saying United should get rid of him! I am saying sending a player out on loan with 2 years left on his contract is not ideal.
 
RuudTom83 said:
If Welbeck improved that much in a season to be considered good enough to lead the line for United. Then i would assume all the top four would be contacting his agent telling him how much they would be prepared to pay him.

Which puts United in a difficult position and would result in paying a striker (who has asked to leave twice in the last two season) huge wages to keep him.

I am not saying United should get rid of him! I am saying sending a player out on loan with 2 years left on his contract is not ideal.
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Agreed. There'll be alot of freed up wages once either of Rooney/RvP moves on though so that shouldn't be an issue.
 
RuudTom83 said:
If Welbeck improved that much in a season to be considered good enough to lead the line for United. Then i would assume all the top four would be contacting his agent telling him how much they would be prepared to pay him.

Which puts United in a difficult position and would result in paying a striker (who has asked to leave twice in the last two season) huge wages to keep him.

I am not saying United should get rid of him! I am saying sending a player out on loan with 2 years left on his contract is not ideal.
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Too be honest one of rooney and RVP should be moved on well ahead of welbeck, having 2 world class number 9's does not make sense when you have 2 number 10's, for what united need I would move on kagwa and RVP, which free's up wages too get those 2 CM's and defender. And hopefully next season, the likes of young nani anderson fletcher cleverley are also moved on also, to free up more wages, so we can rebuild this broken squad

But defiantly to free up wages fletcher cleverley anderson nani kagwa and RVP I would move on to rebalance the squad, and move towards a 433, because it makes no sense keeping all 4 of kagwa mata rooney and RVP, especially with di maria coming in
 
SilentWitness said:
I think he'd be brilliant for us in a wide role in a 4-3-3 with him, Lukaku and Mirallas as the attacking trio.
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No offence but I don't see why Danny would want to go to Everton to play in a wide role. Surely if he is leaving here he will want to go to a team where we will play as first choice week in week out as a centre forward which is what he can't be guaranteed here and is the reason he apparently doesn't want to stay.
 
RuudTom83 said:
If Welbeck improved that much in a season to be considered good enough to lead the line for United. Then i would assume all the top four would be contacting his agent telling him how much they would be prepared to pay him.

Which puts United in a difficult position and would result in paying a striker (who has asked to leave twice in the last two season) huge wages to keep him.

I am not saying United should get rid of him! I am saying sending a player out on loan with 2 years left on his contract is not ideal.
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That still doesn't make any sense.

Why would impressing other teams while out on loan make it harder for United to negotiate a new contract with him than if he stayed put and impressed other teams while playing for United?

Arguably limiting his ability to shine by not giving him many games would be a great tactic for United if they really wanted to have the upper hand in negotiating an extension. A great tactic but also kind of insane, right?
 
LR7 said:
No offence but I don't see why Danny would want to go to Everton to play in a wide role. Surely if he is leaving here he will want to go to a team where we will play as first choice week in week out as a centre forward which is what he can't be guaranteed here and is the reason he apparently doesn't want to stay.
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It's the best he would get if he came here as he's not going to be starting up front when we have Lukaku. He'd only play there as a rotational option which is why i'd wager if he did come here as a first team player it would be out wide. We might actually try and use him as an option in the role Naismith is playing at the moment too, as he doesn't play as your traditional attacking midfielder. No offence taken, i agree with what you're saying.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Naismith and Lukaku played like a front two against Arsenal, I thought. Welbeck would be a big upgrade on Naismith but bring a lot of the same qualities IMO.
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It's a weird role that Naismith has but he was great at it at Rangers and Martinez has brought the best out of him down here too, Welbeck would find it tough to replace him which may raise a laugh but it's true.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That still doesn't make any sense.

Why would impressing other teams while out on loan make it harder for United to negotiate a new contract with him than if he stayed put and impressed other teams while playing for United?

Arguably limiting his ability to shine by not giving him many games would be a great tactic for United if they really wanted to have the upper hand in negotiating an extension. A great tactic but also kind of insane, right?
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Well obviously United don't want to extend his contract or keep him...hence he is being allowed to leave.

A loan move would not be something you would do if you were looking to extend a players contract either.
 
Sky now saying talks have been held between Everton and Manchester United for Welbeck.
 
It's an odd situation, but given that RVP will be 32 this time next year, a loan followed by him staying isn't impossible.

The problem is his lack of first team opportunities right now, just as he's getting to the age where he has to be playing. The lad's ideal situation would be to remain at United and play, so if he went on loan to Everton and did well, then why wouldn't we offer him a renewal, along with assurances of regular football?
 
Would be a ridiculous decision to sell him.
 
Well this is a bit crap isnt it.

Van P looks laboured,Rooney like a headless chicken who doesnt know where he plays anymore,Hernandez awol and Welbeck on the way out.

While Ando,Clev and Valencia,Fletch are all kept with sweetened contracts<well dont know about Ando but he doesnt care as long as he has a few cream buns>.

A bit mental really.
 
KM said:
Would be a ridiculous decision to sell him.
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But we need to sell some players that are actually worth something, plus unless Welbeck is willing/capable to be played out of position, or be content on the bench (which by all accounts he isn't), then what do you do with him? because he isn't imo going to ever be a United quality first choice striker.
 
It comes down to the fee, around 20 million for a 3rd choice striker that is not happy...is a good deal.
Anything less than 15 million and it is not such a great deal and United might as well keep him and left his contract run down.
 
I understand why Welbeck will want to leave, but I do not understand why United would want to let him go. The only reason I believe is that Van gaal plans to drop one of rooney and van persie and play Di Maria in the robben role. But, I do not believe Van Gaal will do that because he is good friend with van persie and he made Rooney captain.

I do know that if Van Gaal persist on using Robbin Van Persie and Rooney upfront even with Di Maria, I fear we will lose out on champion league football again this season. I believe Rooney does not like playing with van persie and vice versa. Such an assumption is made after noticing again that Rooney only passed once to van persie the entire minutes that these players were on the pitch. If you are comparing them with the potent striking duo of luis suarez and sturridge, the latter made numerous one twos with each other, which seems non-existent between the pairing of rvp and Rooney. Out of all our attackers, Welbeck is the best partner for either Rooney or Van Persie, but in the 1-3-5-2, januzaj or di maria has yet to best tested. So perhaps those two could be as good or better. We will have to wait and see, but for that to happen, Van Gaal will have to drop either Rooney or Van Persie. Which, I am not sure he would.
 
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