Danny Welbeck | Manchester United: 2001-2014

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Really don't want Welbeck to be sold. Chicharito should be the one out, an astoundingly limited player. Welbeck can play everywhere in the final third. Let him compete with Januzaj for the wing spot.

Maybe Hernandez is happy being on the bench, whereas Welbeck wants to play football and improve as a player, and hopefully prove all his doubters wrong.
 
A loan deal is very risky given his contract situation unless we outright sell one of RVP or Rooney next year.
 
Someone in the match day thread posted a quote of Van Gaal talking about that if he goes to a 4-3-3, he will have to make a decision out of Rooney or Van Persie, so he obviously only wants to play both players as number 9's, which means even if/when RVP retires or is relegated to the bench, Welbeck would still have Rooney to probably compete with. By that time, they're probably hoping Wilson will be ready to take step up.
 
The problem with a loan deal is Welbeck would only have 12 months remaining on his contract after the loan...so United would get next to nothing from a possible sale at that stage. If Welbeck does great and returns to the club with the view of getting a new contract, United are again in a hard place negotiating wise.

If Spurs want him then a fee around £20 million would be a very good deal for all parties.

If Spurs want him I'd try to get some sort of player exchange deal with Eriksen coming this way.
 
He's not a number 10 :wenger:

He plays attacking midfield for Spurs, but just as capable as a central midfielder, infact probably better in center midfield imo, especially in a 4-3-3.

Of course he's a number 10. He plays behind the striker most of the time. Even spent some of his time as a false nine at Ajax. This is not to say he can't play in a deeper role, i.e. number 8, but we've just bought Herrera for that role so it'd be still a pointless signing, in my opinion.
 
I always rated Pochettino highly. When Moyes got sacked, he was one of the managers I wanted at United. Not surprised a manager like him would want him in his team.

However, spurs already have Adebayor and Soldado. He might not be a sured starter despite being as good or better than those players. I still believe a move to Arsenal will be best for his career.
 
Why would be switch to a 4-3-3 when we have Rooney and Van Persie? Moreover with Wilson coming through our acedemy, where would he fit in the future? Buying one quality wide player does not merit a change in system when we have many central player.

It's van Gaal's preferred system, it's a well known fact at this point, but in his own Words we didn't have the wingers to play it. With Di Maria we do, even if we lack the depth to play it regularly.

RvP is going on 32 and prone to injury, Rooney is 29 while Wilson IF he develops into the player we want him to is only 18, that's too big of a gap. RvP has at most 2 years left with us i'd imagine at which Point Rooney might also be going down. At this Point Wilson would still only be 20 years old and hardly to be relied on as the main threat in our attack, we'd need someone to cushion that shift, Welbeck might be the one to bridge that gap. If he's willing to stay that is.
 
Maybe Hernandez is happy being on the bench, whereas Welbeck wants to play football and improve as a player, and hopefully prove all his doubters wrong.

Hernandez has also been quite open about needing more game-time though, his agent too if I recall correctly. So I doubt he'd feel content with his position in the squad lately.
 
Spurs should be considered as a direct competitor for a 4th position too. This is not a time to be arrogant just because we happen to sign Di Maria. Should definitely not sell him on the cheap to Spurs.
 
Honestly I think we should try Danny in CM. He has work ethic, can carry the ball and will actually take players on. Against weaker opposition he would be a damn sight more useful than certain others who shall remain nameless.
 
Good cameo I thought. Brought some pace. Nothing great or anything but at least he tried.
 
We looked far, far better with him on the pitch. I don't think that playing a formation just to fit in Rooney, RVP and Mata is the best way forward.
 
His pace helped alright, but most of the time he got involved with the play he made mistakes - misplacing passes, dummy to no-one, and an awful ball when Young was in space, allowing keeper to get out. I might be torn apart as being overly critical here, as I do agree that his pace helped us, but that was basically all he brought to the game.
 
Ridiculous how much he changed things.

I know RVP isn't fit but still, Welbeck should be starting.
 
He had the one thing we missed for the majority of the game: pace. His arrival stretched their defence, and he didn't even have to do much. His speed made us less predictable.
 
What a player. :drool:

His pace helped alright, but most of the time he got involved with the play he made mistakes - misplacing passes, dummy to no-one, and an awful ball when Young was in space, allowing keeper to get out. I might be torn apart as being overly critical here, as I do agree that his pace helped us, but that was basically all he brought to the game.

:lol:

Oh dear God.
 
His pace helped alright, but most of the time he got involved with the play he made mistakes - misplacing passes, dummy to no-one, and an awful ball when Young was in space, allowing keeper to get out. I might be torn apart as being overly critical here, as I do agree that his pace helped us, but that was basically all he brought to the game.
how was that an awful ball? he judged Young's pace perfectly, the keeper made a really good decision
 
how was that an awful ball? he judged Young's pace perfectly, the keeper made a really good decision
It was an awful ball because it was played to a place where the keeper should not have been able to get there. He had most of their half of the pitch to play that ball into.
 
It was an awful ball because it was played to a place where the keeper should not have been able to get there. He had most of their half of the pitch to play that ball into.
i think you are wrong there. there was no where he could have passed, and chose quite well. if you was a little faster, he would have made it, but the main thing is the keeper made a really good decision. see i am not saying it is a great and perfect ball. it was good not awful and one of the better balls played during the match
 
Those talking nonsense about how we won't miss him need to watch today. He should be starting every game with 2/3 of Mata, Rooney & RVP. Those three cannot play together.
 
Can't believe we plan to sell him. Thought he should have been brought on earlier. Once again showing how badly we need pace in our team.
 
He goes and I will lose my shit. It makes absolutely no sense to get rid of him
 
He wasn't particularly great today, but he offered pace at the very least.
 
You disagree? What exactly did he do on the ball that was special, or that helped us?

He caused more havoc in those 20 minutes than our all players did in last 180. But that pass was so wrong, he should opt for pass back to our defenders there, like our any other player would do.
 
i think you are wrong there. there was no where he could have passed, and chose quite well. if you was a little faster, he would have made it, but the main thing is the keeper made a really good decision. see i am not saying it is a great and perfect ball. it was good not awful and one of the better balls played during the match
Interesting take on it. Way I saw it, Young was completely free in that area of the pitch, and made up 15 yards or so (can't be exact on that obviously) after Welbeck played the ball. So, there's a lot of grass there, for a start. Then, he's managed to play the pass to an area where, one of our fastest players, at full tilt, is not favourite to win it (as evidenced by the fact that their keeper actually won it) - that in my view is indicative of a bad pass. Young had acres of space, Welbeck essentially managed to put it where Young was the less likely of the 2 to win it. If a pass like that is played in midfield, it's a bad pass. Why any different when it's a forward pass to a teammate in acres of space?
 
He caused more havoc in those 20 minutes than our all players did in last 180. But that pass was so wrong, he should opt for pass back to our defenders there, like our any other player would do.
Nice sarcasm. Nope, he at least attempted the right thing. But he messed it up. Should have got it to the player in acres of space, not put it into an area of 50/50 probability.
 
Looked infinitely better when he came on. His pace and power caused problems. Gary Neville put it best just now when he said that Juan Mata needs runners. Welbeck's movement brought Mata back into the game, and we had more threat. It still wasn't enough, as our midfield is garbage, but we just cannot sell him.
 
Can't sell him. He can be infuriating, but I'd rather have him than Hernandez.
 
Nice sarcasm. Nope, he at least attempted the right thing. But he messed it up. Should have got it to the player in acres of space, not put it into an area of 50/50 probability.

You're underestimating how hard that pass was. He's hit it with the outside of his right boot so the swerve is naturally means that he needs to play it in front of Young otherwise it might go behind him and secondly there was a defender directly in his path which he had to play it around.
 
was extremely close to scoring from rooneys over the top. Wont see any other player in the squad making that run
 
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