Danny Welbeck | Manchester United: 2001-2014

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I wouldn't be surprised to see him going on loan with 2 years left on his deal. Give him a year at Everton then give him a chance at being our main man next season. If it doesn't work out then give him a free transfer. Can't see him getting a new deal unless he really impresses
 
Something needs to be done about this Rooney/RvP situation. Either they start playing well together or one of them gets benched. I am sick of sacrificing potential improvement just because we feel we are required to play our two "best" players. It is like the Gerrard/Lampard situation for England.
 
Could this be a similar situation to Di Maria?

A player leaving a club whose performances when played have been positive to the team but it appears other players are in the team ahead of him as they are better individuals in general, with the fans (and possibly the club) seemingly reluctant to let it happen. Add that to the latest substitute appearances by the two players... I guess the reality is that we also need to consider the interests of the player and the money.
 
So the Sunderland game wasn't a lesson after all. Welbeck could still fight for his place, RVP and Rooney aren't that consistent anymore anyway. I understand why Welbeck wants to leave, but I just don't understand why LVG and the club just let him go like that especially when this guy played better than any of our attackers against Sunderland.
And the only player who offers pace which what we need at the moment is going to leave to clubs that could danger us for Champion League spot.
 
Why would he sign for everton when they've destroyed their transfer record for a striker?
 
So the Sunderland game wasn't a lesson after all. Welbeck could still fight for his place, RVP and Rooney aren't that consistent anymore anyway. I understand why Welbeck wants to leave, but I just don't understand why LVG and the club just let him go like that especially when this guy played better than any of our attackers against Sunderland.
And the only player who offers pace which what we need at the moment is going to leave to clubs that could danger us for Champion League spot.
because he isnt god enough in the final third
 
Cant we just do the same with Nani, let him sign a new contract and send him out on loan.
We could get two players come back in top form entering the peak of their career with space in the squad next season when we have cleared out player Van Gaal does not want. And if he does not want either we should get a good price for both.
 
Nani has no future here. That's pretty apparent whether he excels at Sporting or not.

We simply have to sever ties ASAP.
 
I would be gutted if he left. He's something different to what we have, and it's that something that we are severely lacking throughout the team. Everyone knows Danny has his limitations but he always gives 100% and his pace actually stretches team and gives them something to worry about.

I don't understand the point of having academies and spending masses amount of money on youth development if when you produce a top talent like Welbeck we are willing to let him go at a young age when we need him.
 
I don't understand the caf's stance on Giroud. He's a good striker. Not excellent, but excellent strikers aren't in abundance.

And I've not seen anything to suggest Welbeck would be much better than Giroud.
 
Hope he doesn't leave. But he'll never be a starter if United keeps signing big name attacking talent into the squad, which I have absolutely no problems with.
 
Arsenal should aim higher than welbeck, actually. Unless they're fine with trying that fix the striker issue over time and not instantly, of course.
 
Arsenal should aim higher than welbeck, actually. Unless they're fine with trying that fix the striker issue over time and not instantly, of course.

With Welbeck they'll have more squad depth. He's definitely cheaper than buying a 'instant fix' like Falcao/Cavani. And I think playing regularly would make him a better player for them than he ever was for us, like how Sturridge is performing now for Liverpool.
 
With Welbeck they'll have more squad depth. He's definitely cheaper than buying a 'instant fix' like Falcao/Cavani. And I think playing regularly would make him a better player for them than he ever was for us, like how Sturridge is performing now for Liverpool.
It's not guaranteed that he'll reach Sturridge level though which is my point,. If they want to sort the striker position out then they have to go for someone better than welbeck. Of they want to buy potential that won't cost a bomb and might meet their expectations or might not, but certainly will take some time, then welbeck is a good option.

Either way, I hope we don't sell to a rival.
 
I personally don't mind a Di Maria or a Mata signing every summer. Do you?

I would. What's the point of our youth development ladder? What's the point of prudent scouting and unearthing gems like we did with Vidic and Evra?

There is a balance, but I'd hate for us to become the next Madrid. I would be mortified.
 
I would. What's the point of our youth development ladder? What's the point of prudent scouting and unearthing gems like we did with Vidic and Evra?

There is a balance, but I'd hate for us to become the next Madrid. I would be mortified.

It would be awful but it won't ever happen.
 
I would. What's the point of our youth development ladder? What's the point of prudent scouting and unearthing gems like we did with Vidic and Evra?

There is a balance, but I'd hate for us to become the next Madrid. I would be mortified.

The reality is, while its nice to bring those players through, to compete you need to bring in top drawer players in from time to time.

There's a difference between that and buying for buyings sake like Madrid do. I actually think that can be counter productive. Arguably they could be more balanced and better last year than they are this.
 
I would. What's the point of our youth development ladder? What's the point of prudent scouting and unearthing gems like we did with Vidic and Evra?

There is a balance, but I'd hate for us to become the next Madrid. I would be mortified.

The Glazers would kill Woodward if we follow the Madrid model. A team consists of 11 players anyway, a world class signing every one or two years wouldn't mean youth players cannot make the step up.

In fact, it'll be easier for them to make the step up with experienced heads and a strong team to make up for their inevitable mistakes.
 
It's not guaranteed that he'll reach Sturridge level though which is my point,. If they want to sort the striker position out then they have to go for someone better than welbeck. Of they want to buy potential that won't cost a bomb and might meet their expectations or might not, but certainly will take some time, then welbeck is a good option.

Either way, I hope we don't sell to a rival.

I've seen the suggested comparison between Welbeck and Sturridge before. Fact is Sturridge has a really outstanding goal scoring record and is already a top 4 player.

I can't see Welbeck going to an Arsenal level side - he's no better than what they have. Why go there when you might get as many games here?

I hope he stays if we're persisting with two upfront. If take him over Hernandez to be honest because he offers something different.
 
Arsenal should aim higher than welbeck, actually. Unless they're fine with trying that fix the striker issue over time and not instantly, of course.
There's not many strikers available at the moment.
Neither Cavani nor Falcao are available.
Strikers available: Remy(failed a medical), Welbeck, Eto(Leaning towards everton), Borini(:lol:), Soldado... who am i missing?
 
Nothing against Madrid, they're a unique club in world football, and their success is as earned as ours. I'm not a fan of their approach to transfers and the way they discard perfectly good players in search of the next big thing.

The Glazers would kill Woodward if we follow the Madrid model. A team consists of 11 players anyway, a world class signing every one or two years wouldn't mean youth players cannot make the step up.

In fact, it'll be easier for them to make the step up with experienced heads and a strong team to make up for their inevitable mistakes.

In my defense I read your statement as 2 world class players every year :D

It's all personal preference anyways, I think gaping holes should be addressed urgently, however talent should be given a chance to prove themselves. I think after we spunk some more money on a central midfield we'll build around that core more prudently.
 
I've seen the suggested comparison between Welbeck and Sturridge before. Fact is Sturridge has a really outstanding goal scoring record and is already a top 4 player.

I can't see Welbeck going to an Arsenal level side - he's no better than what they have. Why go there when you might get as many games here?

I hope he stays if we're persisting with two upfront. If take him over Hernandez to be honest because he offers something different.

Sturridge was not a top 4 player before he went to Liverpool. He had the potential, Rodgers gave him time, and voila! He's much improved. Look at Ramsey at Arsenal who was shit 2 years ago. It's not rocket science. Reap the rewards/risk of developing talent, or pay through the nose for the final product.
 
Madrid are the other extreme. Bayern are a good middle ground. They spend big when they have to, give young players a chance and get good bargains too. Barca are good too. They seem to waste lots of money but they buy big as well as focus on youth big time.
 
I've seen the suggested comparison between Welbeck and Sturridge before. Fact is Sturridge has a really outstanding goal scoring record and is already a top 4 player.

I can't see Welbeck going to an Arsenal level side - he's no better than what they have. Why go there when you might get as many games here?

I hope he stays if we're persisting with two upfront. If take him over Hernandez to be honest because he offers something different.

Welbeck will have much more consistent game time in his natural position at Arsenal than at United. Welbeck will be ahead of all their strikers and as seen against Everton, Sanchez seems uncapable of being as influential as a striker than he is as a wide attacker or second striker.

Nevertheless, I do not believe Manchester United will be that stupid to sell Welbeck to Arsenal or even a top 6 club with the way we have been playing. He would greatly improve the Arsenal team and become a sure fix in their attacking department. He is the type of striker Wenger has wet dreams about to develop in the vision of Bergkamp, Henry, Adebayor, etc. If Welbeck wants a big contract, this is perhaps the best time to get it at United because his impact at one of those club could mean another season without champion league football at United.
 
Madrid are the other extreme. Bayern are a good middle ground. They spend big when they have to, give young players a chance and get good bargains too. Barca are good too. They seem to waste lots of money but they buy big as well as focus on youth big time.
Madrid always the best so the re-sell value is always high. What i have a problem however is that they have a penchant for buying players they don't really need. It's like Perez buys these players on whims. The only way i see James Rodgriguez working is if they play him upfront and put Isco behind him because at the moment he's just not working
 
Welbeck will have much more consistent game time in his natural position at Arsenal than at United. Welbeck will be ahead of all their strikers and as seen against Everton, Sanchez seems uncapable of being as influential as a striker than he is as a wide attacker or second striker.

Nevertheless, I do not believe Manchester United will be that stupid to sell Welbeck to Arsenal or even a top 6 club with the way we have been playing. He would greatly improve the Arsenal team and become a sure fix in their attacking department. He is the type of striker Wenger has wet dreams about to develop in the vision of Bergkamp, Henry, Adebayor, etc. If Welbeck wants a big contract, this is perhaps the best time to get it at United because his impact at one of those club could mean another season without champion league football at United.

I disagree that he'd necessarily be a regular at Arsenal. Giroud has done well and can lead the line as a target man, and Sanchez might get game time in the middle as will Walcott potentially.

Talk about developing him into a Thierry Henry or Bergkamp is a pipe dream as well. He works hard, has pace and decent movement. Those two were super stars.

As it is it makes no sense for us to sell him.
 
We shouldnt be letting him go. Other than Di Maria we don't have any direct pace in attacking areas.
 
I really hope we dont lose him. He might not be everyones cup of tea but hes such a quality player
 
He wants to be a starter here, and wants to leave because he can't get that, but what does he expect when he puts in performances like this? Doesn't really look arsed.
 
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