Loan him. Southampton would be good.
Danny Welbeck | Manchester United: 2001-2014
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It seems he doesn't want to.
If he goes I hope we loan him. RvP is not getting any younger and Welbeck will take over from him soon. If he goes I think we will really regret it.
Please let it only be a loan if he goes 
I know there is no rule for transfer fees, but still, in the same window where Ross McCormack and Shane Long are sold for £11m and £12m respectively, how the f*ck is Welbeck only worth £15m? Lallana is sold for £25m but Welbeck is worth £10m less? Makes zero sense. He's 23, he's an established England international, scores goals for club and country when played up front (despite what his detractors will claim) and above all he has great scope and potential to improve. I'd rather he stays, I love Danny, but if he is going it shouldn't be for less than £25m+.
I watched the embargoed section of the presser on MUTV and the journos really probed LvG on whether he wanted to keep him or whether he had told him he could leave and he wasn't willing to budge from his stance that he wont discuss it with the press, but then he was asked whether he was annoyed that Welbeck's 'camp' were leaking the info to the press, LvG just said 'that's football'. I think the situation is similar to the way Pexbo has described it above, he has probably informed Welbeck he will be behind RvP and Rooney in the pecking order and Welbeck has decided he wants to have first team football. It's a shame, he is 23, he could learn a lot under LvG to make him a much better player and if he hangs tight and continues to improve he'll be a starter soon enough. RvP is the wrong side of 30 now and Rooney is 29 soon, his time will come.
I watched the embargoed section of the presser on MUTV and the journos really probed LvG on whether he wanted to keep him or whether he had told him he could leave and he wasn't willing to budge from his stance that he wont discuss it with the press, but then he was asked whether he was annoyed that Welbeck's 'camp' were leaking the info to the press, LvG just said 'that's football'. I think the situation is similar to the way Pexbo has described it above, he has probably informed Welbeck he will be behind RvP and Rooney in the pecking order and Welbeck has decided he wants to have first team football. It's a shame, he is 23, he could learn a lot under LvG to make him a much better player and if he hangs tight and continues to improve he'll be a starter soon enough. RvP is the wrong side of 30 now and Rooney is 29 soon, his time will come.
A loan would be a good solution. If we get back into the CL next season we will need a bigger squad again and with RVP´s injuriy history and him not becoming any younger he could expect to start a lot of games next season.
We are not going to sell him to Arsenal or Spurs this season, then just stay one more season or at least half of the season. With his ability and RVP injury prone he can get a lot of games time. He just needs more confidence. If LVG benched him like what Moyes did even after very good and consistent form then he has the right thing to leave.
If he improved on his weak points he could take out Robin this season, with a seemingly impartial Van Gaal at the helm there will never be a better situation to be the underdog. If he leaves now he will forever regret his impatience when Wilson claims what would have been his.
I know it's contrary to what I said above but maybe LvG, in the long term, wants to shift to a lone striker formation. When RvP enters into decline Rooney will occupy that position with Wilson as his understudy, the process of phasing out Rooney and RvP will take the best part of four years, which time Welbeck can not afford to waste waiting around. I would say sell with a buyback clause if we are talking about Spurs, Soton and Everton. If Arsenal come knocking we should demand the Ox or Ramsey in a straighr swap.
Who is we?
Welbeck wants to leave. Do you think if we didn't rate him that we would stop him going to a top six club?
Blame Welbeck, not LVG, not the club. You'd prefer players who want to fight for their place not cry. LVG wouldn't drop him if he was scoring 9/9 like he did last season. So why can't he repeat that again when he gets the chance? What is he scared of? LVG isn't Moyes and plays players on reputation.
Why are people suggesting loan? If he comes back next year he will have one more year on his contract and may refuse to sign.
Like I said, stop having a go at the club. Welbeck doesn't want to stay and fight for his place. Thinks he should just walk into our starting line up. And I'm tired of players with that attitude.
I agree. It's not the club will regret it's Welbeck himself will regret it. He is a Manchester lad, he loves this club. There is no bigger club for him than Manchester United. He has ability and he can play for this club. The club won't regret to let him go since there is Wilson and other players from youth. But we might end up regret for the price. 15 million can be a bargain price.
But why would he accept a loan to a small club? If he wants to leave, fair enough. I just hope we would get rid of other players before we'd consider selling Welbeck
There is no guarantee if LVG won't drop him if scores 9/9. There is no guarantee if RVP will be an injury prone again. There is no guarantee if Rooney will play inconsistent like last season. That's why there was a private discussion, and it seems LVG can't guarantee it.
RVP seems to be the favourite choice. And what makes Welbeck thinks about this again is the decision of LVG made Rooney as our captain. It shows how much trust LVG put on Rooney. The similar scenario of how much Moyes loves Rooney last season.
Welbeck attitude is probably one of the best you can find with the current players. Always giving more than 100% every time he plays. It's so frustrated after doing so well and consistent last season, and being dropped. The number of abused he got even after top performance. He wanted to stay and fight for his place but he also doesn't want the same thing like last season happen again.
All he wants just play games.
Unless we get rid of Rooney, Mata or van Persie, I don't see how getting rid of players in different positions has any bearing on whether we should consider selling Welbeck. Selling Young, Fellaini, Anderson or Cleverley doesn't help Welbeck's cause at all.
And when it's time for van Persie and Rooney to be properly replaced, I'd like to think we'd bring in someone closer to their level.
Fleece Levy for everything the bald headed twat's got.
15 million pounds for Welbeck from Spurs? I would not budge for less than 25-30 million after the way Levy fleeces every club who try and buy players off them. A home grown England international who has lots of potential and I wouldn't want him gone in the first place.
It does start to make sense somewhat with Di Maria coming in.
If Van Gaal is going to be keep this 3412 system then Di Maria can be given a free role in the middle similar to Robben at the world cup. He'd likely take the place of a striker/mata. There's a good chance Januzaj could be used the same, and if we were ever to not have Rooney or Van Persie available there's always a chance he'll start 433 instead of replacing one.
It'd suck, I think we'd regret it later but if Di Maria and Januzaj are being considered for those roles aswel then he won't get too many opportunities unfortunately.
He's only worth what someone would pay for him and I think he might be able to get 20m if very lucky. Honestly though, I wouldn't find even 30m to be much compensation.
If Van Gaal is going to be keep this 3412 system then Di Maria can be given a free role in the middle similar to Robben at the world cup. He'd likely take the place of a striker/mata. There's a good chance Januzaj could be used the same, and if we were ever to not have Rooney or Van Persie available there's always a chance he'll start 433 instead of replacing one.
It'd suck, I think we'd regret it later but if Di Maria and Januzaj are being considered for those roles aswel then he won't get too many opportunities unfortunately.
He's only worth what someone would pay for him and I think he might be able to get 20m if very lucky. Honestly though, I wouldn't find even 30m to be much compensation.
I know we wanted him to succeed but at the end of the day he's a striker and one that scores at best 1 in 4 games isn't good enough for Manchester United. Sure he brings pace to the team and has those bursting runs forward that create a lot of space but his job is to score goals. Although he scores really good goals he then goes on to miss a couple of sitters whenever he's playing and that's not good enough for the level we require. He will never be able to start ahead of Rooney or RVP should we switch to a 1 striker formation.
Wilson is more suitable to the number 9 role as someone to play in cup games or get 20 minutes at the end of games we're comfortably winning and this I think left van Gaal with the decision that the best thing for Manchester United and Welbeck himself is to move on. Welbeck is at a stage in his career where he needs to start games week in week out and if we can't offer him that it's the best decision for the player's career to move on.
Wilson is more suitable to the number 9 role as someone to play in cup games or get 20 minutes at the end of games we're comfortably winning and this I think left van Gaal with the decision that the best thing for Manchester United and Welbeck himself is to move on. Welbeck is at a stage in his career where he needs to start games week in week out and if we can't offer him that it's the best decision for the player's career to move on.
I'd rather let Hernandez go for example. Obviously no one would sell Rooney or RVP but Kagawa might be another one
I'd be gutted if Danny leaves but if he does, I hope he goes to Spurs, for all parties concerned. He'd be perfectly suited to Pochettino's high-press system and would run the line brilliantly for them.
Of course if we even consider selling to Levy, we better wring the bollocks dry for every penny he's got after his behaviour in practically every negotiation we've ever had with him.
Of course if we even consider selling to Levy, we better wring the bollocks dry for every penny he's got after his behaviour in practically every negotiation we've ever had with him.
Great post. The season before RVP signed up Welbeck got 13 goals! He also got 6 in 6 when both Rooney and RVP were out injured last season. I hope if he leaves its a loan. I don't even think he should be loaned out at all but it will be better than basically giving up on him for the sake of Rooney and a 31 year old RVP
How would Welbeck deciding to move on (for reasons we can't do anything about) be the club's fault?
I doubt van Gaal would actively sell him for any reason other than Welbeck asking to go. It's not like he's doing any harm as a versatile backup.
It wouldn't be the club 'giving up on him'.
I doubt van Gaal would actively sell him for any reason other than Welbeck asking to go. It's not like he's doing any harm as a versatile backup.
It wouldn't be the club 'giving up on him'.
If the club thought he was rubbish, why the rule that he can't go to a top six club?
We sold Silvestre to Arsenal. We sold Veron to Chelsea. Players we didn't rate very highly at the time.
Some people giving Danny a free pass because he doesn't want to fight for his place. He deserves it for some reason. If it was Rooney, we all know what the reaction would be. Fact is he mans up and fights for his place or he'd be regretting his decision.
He's realistically never going to be a 25+ goal a season striker so he's never realistically going to be a starter for us so yeah let him leave if he wants to
Id really miss Welbeck if he left. A move doesnt seem to make sense for us, but if he wants to leave...
I think the best move for Welbeck would be Spurs - he should force his way ahead of Adebayor in their starting XI.
For us I'd hope we were to bring in another wide forward in addition to Di Maria, as we're short on both quality and numbers out wide if we do want to switch to 433. A player like Pedro. I'm not impressed with Zaha yet, and Young and Valencia arent good enough to challenge Di Maria or Januzaj for a starting position.
I think the best move for Welbeck would be Spurs - he should force his way ahead of Adebayor in their starting XI.
For us I'd hope we were to bring in another wide forward in addition to Di Maria, as we're short on both quality and numbers out wide if we do want to switch to 433. A player like Pedro. I'm not impressed with Zaha yet, and Young and Valencia arent good enough to challenge Di Maria or Januzaj for a starting position.
I Think he should almost be doing that. We look a better team when he plays IMO. So when I say "we" I mean the club. I know Welbeck wants to leave but if the club lets him go, they will regret it.
I agree with this.
If we're selling him to spurs I hope we demand in excess of 20m, given how they have a tendancy of raping teams for transfers
This.
feck it, sell him to Arsenal. Spurs can get to feck for fecking us over on Modric and Bale. At least Arse handed over RvP on a silver platter.
That's not a reason for him to leave. He's a highly valuable squad player. Think Ji Sung Park. They are highly valuable to a title winning team.
Wouldn't compare him to Park, as if anyone had ever offered us anywhere near 15m+ he'd of been sold in an instant.
If we sell to anyone, we should be demanding big money. He's a young English international. If he played for Southampton, he'd be costing the buying club £30million minimum. We are just garbage at selling, so clubs will probably be bidding single figure sums.
this sucks, really don't want him to leave....hope it's rubbish....I like both players but if anyone should be going this summer it's Cheech, not Welbeck
Why would be switch to a 4-3-3 when we have Rooney and Van Persie? Moreover with Wilson coming through our acedemy, where would he fit in the future? Buying one quality wide player does not merit a change in system when we have many central player.
Not intelligent? Mensa is his middle name!
Manchester United are willing to release three senior players away on-loan.
The Mirror says United will let Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley and Wilfried Zaha go ON LOAN in a shock move by Louis van Gaal.
The Dutchman has assessed the young English trio and decided he wants them to go out for regular Premier League football before deciding whether he wants to use them long-term.
News of the decision flashed round the Premier League grapevine yesterday as interested clubs formed a queue for striker Welbeck, midfielder Cleverley and winger Zaha.
A step in the right direction!
On loan or keep please!
The Mirror says United will let Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley and Wilfried Zaha go ON LOAN in a shock move by Louis van Gaal.
The Dutchman has assessed the young English trio and decided he wants them to go out for regular Premier League football before deciding whether he wants to use them long-term.
News of the decision flashed round the Premier League grapevine yesterday as interested clubs formed a queue for striker Welbeck, midfielder Cleverley and winger Zaha.
A step in the right direction!
On loan or keep please!
The problem with a loan deal is Welbeck would only have 12 months remaining on his contract after the loan...so United would get next to nothing from a possible sale at that stage. If Welbeck does great and returns to the club with the view of getting a new contract, United are again in a hard place negotiating wise.
If Spurs want him then a fee around £20 million would be a very good deal for all parties.
If Spurs want him then a fee around £20 million would be a very good deal for all parties.
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We will miss you if you left Danny. Doesnt make sense to me considering how balsa RVP is .
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