Danny Welbeck | Manchester United: 2001-2014
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He probably saw how Sturridge kicked on recently so lost a lot of patience because of it, and being 3rd or maybe 4th choice now depending on how Van Gaal sees Januzaj, he probably just wants a fresh start somewhere where he'd consistently start.
I can't think of many first choice 23 year old striker like you say though. Sturridge is at a similar age I think, Lukaku, and Immobile for Dortmund now while Lewandowski became first choice at around that age I think.
Heh, I gathered what you were saying.
Can't think of many though, no, I'm sure there were a few not too long ago. Aguero for example.
About Welbz, I really think that in his position and with LVG "philosophy" he really should go
I mean right now in his 3-5-2, he can only play in the front two. And with his captain (Roo) and his favorite (RVP) he'll be the third striker, and I bet LVG will play either Januzaj, Di Maria or Wilson as the other forward players.
And the fact is that I really think that LVG will change in 4-3-3 next year when he'll get rid of most of the non added value (Nani, Ando, Zaha...) and he'll not have too many player with the same profile
I think that he has particular profile for his 4-3-3 as two real wingers like Di Maria and Januzaj (or Cuadrado) and a real striker like Roo or RVP. If only one of them play, the other will be on the bench, and I think that Wilson will be the 3rd striker easily (like Moratta at Madrid. So player like Welbz, Chicha and even Mata for me will struggle next year in Van Gaal's formation
I mean right now in his 3-5-2, he can only play in the front two. And with his captain (Roo) and his favorite (RVP) he'll be the third striker, and I bet LVG will play either Januzaj, Di Maria or Wilson as the other forward players.
And the fact is that I really think that LVG will change in 4-3-3 next year when he'll get rid of most of the non added value (Nani, Ando, Zaha...) and he'll not have too many player with the same profile
I think that he has particular profile for his 4-3-3 as two real wingers like Di Maria and Januzaj (or Cuadrado) and a real striker like Roo or RVP. If only one of them play, the other will be on the bench, and I think that Wilson will be the 3rd striker easily (like Moratta at Madrid. So player like Welbz, Chicha and even Mata for me will struggle next year in Van Gaal's formation
Will be gutted to see him go. Did I read Cleverley was offered a new contract?
Yet you use the phrase 'speaking of which' out of thin air, well worked in.
He'll probably be asked about it in the conference anyway.
As it stands Welbeck is 3rd choice this season...commonsense places him behind RVP and Rooney.
Fast forward 1 year and say RVP leaves the club, would anyone be confident starting next season with Rooney and Welbeck as the main two strikers? commonsense would say NO! and another top striker would be needed.
United can cope without him and it seems Danny can cope without United too!
Fast forward 1 year and say RVP leaves the club, would anyone be confident starting next season with Rooney and Welbeck as the main two strikers? commonsense would say NO! and another top striker would be needed.
United can cope without him and it seems Danny can cope without United too!
-This news comes one day after Jones gets a new contract. Coincidence?
-Why are we looking to sell players without making signings first?
-Why are we looking to sell players without making signings first?
you cant look it this way, if RvP injures himslef and isnt available for 3 months, who would you like to step up? Welbeck of course.
Yeah... Do you remember Rooney's big miss against Bayern away, couldn't figure out what he wanted to do with a fairly straight shot on? Or Van Persie screwing up at the Bernabeau? What about Ronaldo missing a penalty against Barcelona at the Camp Nou?
You're so full of toss, mate. Stats and anecdotes tell you feck all.
Aye and that's not exactly a far-fetched scenario, unfortunately.
No tweets from the presser yet?
15 minutes to go for that, yet I think, Lance.
Shite. I thought it kicked off at 3pm.
I worry since both Rooney and RVP have both been injured in the past couple of seasons more than once a season too. Last year we went 5 or 6 games with Wellbeck as our only fit Striker if I remember correctly... he didn't do too badly either
Pretty sure it was a follow up to the reference to cretins in his prior post.
3:30 apparently. There's post with LVG looking like a lesbian aunt in the Twitter thread.
I swear, some people have shit memories. Remember how Rooney used to score nothing but stunners, but fluffed his lines with the simple chances? Nobody was saying the lad was never going to be good enough. Not the same as Welbz, but feck me people don't half exaggerate what they can extrapolate from the odd anecdotes and stats, man.
Loved that goal. And that game.
Feels like a long time since watching United was as fun as those 90 minutes.
Funny, because on the opposite hand, people massively exaggerate his abilities.
I swear, some people have shit memories. Remember how Rooney used to score nothing but stunners, but fluffed his lines with the simple chances? Nobody was saying the lad was never going to be good enough. Not the same as Welbz, but feck me people don't half exaggerate what they can extrapolate from the odd anecdotes and stats, man.
Rooney was a only a year or two younger then Welbeck is now when there was at least one thread (possibly more?) dedicated to how poor he was at converting simple chances. Rooney's apparent inability to finish was a recurring theme for his first few years with United.
Ah thanks, now it makes complete sense, bad analogies and cretins go hand in hand...
Welbeck must have stolen a girl from Lynk once, it's clearly personal between them.
Looks like a semi melted wax work.
I find that hillarious seeing as I've been on this site 4 years longer than you, where as you have barely been here a year. If you don't like my posts there's a block function. This isn't RAWK, some degree of free speech is allowed.
That or I just don't think he's a good footballer.
Rooney's Finishing
EDIT: Exactly the same age when that thread was started as Welbeck is now.
@Eriku
2nd EDIT: Sample quote from that thread (from a very sensible poster):
I'll be gutted to see him leave, if this twitter garbage is for real of course, however, I do have great faith in LVG (based on his previous achievements and what he did at the WC with an average Holland squad) and if he can't find a way to accommodate DW then maybe it's best he goes and continues his development else where.
If the rumours are true, I reckon there has been offers to move it along.
I'm still surprised that Kagawa hasn't been moved on - surely there isn't much place for him in the team and such an obvious player to move on and recoup some money.
If the rumours are true, I reckon there has been offers to move it along.
I'm still surprised that Kagawa hasn't been moved on - surely there isn't much place for him in the team and such an obvious player to move on and recoup some money.
Welbeck is an awesome player that will be a far more important player in England than he is now but if flogging him means getting Di Maria then I'll drive Welbeck to whoever he signs for myself
It's disappointing but I can understand it if we can't give him enough game time upfront. As mentioned above, I am guessing he must look at Sturridge and think his career is starting to stagnate a bit. If the club is driving it though, it is surprising - he has plenty to offer and is nowhere near the front of the deadwood queue.
Would this mean not a single local player in the team?
Would this mean not a single local player in the team?
Free speech is one thing, your total inability to discuss Welbeck with any sense is another.I find that hillarious seeing as I've been on this site 4 years longer than you, where as you have barely been here a year. If you don't like my posts there's a block function. This isn't RAWK, some degree of free speech is allowed.
He just isn't a very good footballer and I rather him not be playing for a my favourite team.
People have short memories mate
With quite a few "reputable" media outlets reporting this, I can only think this goes all the way back to his reported transfer request at the end of the season. Either Welbeck still wants out, and is unwilling to wait any longer for a guaranteed starting position, or LvG doesn't have him in his plans going forward in any significant role. I'm not happy to see him go, but it's not the end of the world for me either. Honestly, if he did hand in a transfer request last season, the timing of it, during one of our clubs darkest hours in recent times (IIRC it came out in the media directly after the humiliating loss to Liverpool (or maybe City), rubs me the wrong way a bit. At the time I felt he deserved just as much abuse as Rooney did for his contract wrangling.
Bit of a simplistic way of looking at it. Welbeck massively improved his finishing and looked very good up front last season. Scores less when played wide, quite obviously. Hernandez has only every been good at two things, finishing and off the ball movement. His finishing has deserted him to the extent I now genuinely think Welbeck is better at everything, including finishing.
Out of all the departures this summer, only one has disappointed me with Evra leaving, but we have Shaw and Rojo who can play there/LWB anyway. However, if we sell Welbeck I will be livid.
Take Welbeck out of the squad.
RVP gets injured.
Then you could play Rooney with either Mata/Januzaj/Hernandez/Shinji
I'd like Welbeck to stay but he is nowhere near irreplaceable and if United are to move forward then changes are ultimately going to happen.
Rooney scored 17 goals in his first season at United, Welbeck has never scored more than 12 for United. There's no comparisons.
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