Not really, young stikers from the youth ranks will just never be given a proper chance. When it comes down to it, United will ALWAYS buy top strikers and the ones from the youth ranks will always leave elsewhere for first team football. Rossi was good enough for United for instance, he left for the same reasons. Welbeck was the first youth forward in YEARS to get this far in the first team. I don't know what Wilson's chances are, he's the next 'big thing' as far as youth forwards go at United.
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Not really, young stikers from the youth ranks will just never be given a proper chance. When it comes down to it, United will ALWAYS buy top strikers and the ones from the youth ranks will always leave elsewhere for first team football. Rossi was good enough for United for instance, he left for the same reasons. Welbeck was the first youth forward in YEARS to get this far in the first team. I don't know what Wilson's chances are, he's the next 'big thing' as far as youth forwards go at United.
Bull, he was just not good enough. A local lad will always get more chances than anyone else.
Then you really won't rate him.
RIP in peace Welbz. Good move for him, but I find this utterly bizarre, I'm not sure this was a good idea from our side.
To be fair, he's not good enough to be the main striker.
He's more than good enough close to very good being a pacy striker though, but his finishing costs him alot. Manchester United's Striker is just too big for him, he doesn't have the mercurial effect Scholes, Giggs, Beckham have. The fans would never be satisfied with him being a striker. We tend to close a blind eye on positions other than striker. You have to be the very best to be a striker in Manchester United (take note Rooney), and he just doesn't have that extra edge that makes players special (other than he's a local lad)
Fair play to him, stick with us, and it's time to move on. I wish him success. Although I think he'll be made a Henry Mk.II at Arsenal, he still won't get his dream position of main striker.
He's more than good enough close to very good being a pacy striker though, but his finishing costs him alot. Manchester United's Striker is just too big for him, he doesn't have the mercurial effect Scholes, Giggs, Beckham have. The fans would never be satisfied with him being a striker. We tend to close a blind eye on positions other than striker. You have to be the very best to be a striker in Manchester United (take note Rooney), and he just doesn't have that extra edge that makes players special (other than he's a local lad)
Fair play to him, stick with us, and it's time to move on. I wish him success. Although I think he'll be made a Henry Mk.II at Arsenal, he still won't get his dream position of main striker.
You sound just like a Chelsea fan after they sold Sturridge. The consensus was he wasn't good enough, was wasteful, etc. Now we're letting Welbeck go at the same age.
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As happy as i am with Falcao losing Welbeck is really hard to take. I thought he would finish his career here i'm gutted.
The thing is it's irrelevant if they become good later, Welbeck will never become a top player at United because he won't get the chances. Simple as that. He needs first team football like Sturridge did. Sturridge didn't get it at Chelsea so he moved. There's no way Welbeck could get it over our current strikers so he has to go, and no manager would play him over the ones we have.
He has expressed his desire to move at the end of last season and yesterday he forced a permanent move to Arsenal. He wasnt going to get regular games with RvP/Rooney/Falcao and the competition is easier at Arsenal. I believe he is going to do well there and who knows after a few years we may yet see him again in our red shirt if he proves himself. Good luck Danny!
I really love Danny but this move is best for his career and we have signed one of the best forwards in the world so it's mixed emotions for me. I would actually enjoy seeing Danny become the new Henry at Arsenal.
Me too.
It's so annoying that it had to be Arsenal and I think he'll do well there, but he wasn't getting many chances with Falcao, Rooney and clearly van Persie ahead of him so I can totally understand why he wanted out. Not wishing any bad on him.
I agree. To me he seems like a fast Giroud, which is an ideal player (except for the finishing ability) for our system. They work hard and can link up and bring players such as Ramsey, Walcott and Sanchez into the game.
The fact that he's very quick too means no more stagnant forward-line when Ozil and Caz have the ball around the area, which drives me farqing insane. We could have a lighning quick forward set-up with players like Walcott, Ox, Sanchez, Welbeck, Campbell and even Gnabry... Which is exciting.
Absolutely crazy/stupid transfer.
Wellbeck was not a prolific striker bat had many attributes going for him. Given that RVP/Falcao can be injury prone I believe he would have got many minutes of play.
But what gets me the most is that he is allowed to go to a rival team who themselves were not willing to sell Vermalen to United.
We are obviously trying to shoot ourselves in the foot when it comes to getting back into the top four.
Wellbeck was not a prolific striker bat had many attributes going for him. Given that RVP/Falcao can be injury prone I believe he would have got many minutes of play.
But what gets me the most is that he is allowed to go to a rival team who themselves were not willing to sell Vermalen to United.
We are obviously trying to shoot ourselves in the foot when it comes to getting back into the top four.
Strange how for some on here he's suddenly become a prolific striker who's going to knock in 15-20 goals a season. There's absolutely no evidence to support anything like that figure - the guy isn't a finisher full stop. He's no more than a versatile player who can fill in here and there and grab a few goals a season. Van Gaal obviously recognised that and £16m for him is business well done.
Thats hardly been the truth lately. Welbeck was the last Manc left in the first team besides Blackett.
Like I said, this viewpoint mirrors that of City and Chelsea fans after they sold Daniel Sturridge. Not many predicted how prolific he'd be once given a proper run.
Not really. There's no evidence to support any assertion he'll be anything more to Arsenal than he was to us. Van Gaal clearly didn't think he had it in him to be a top class striker so that's good enough for me.
I would guess the transfer was allowed out of respect to Welbeck, as it's a good move for his career and likely the best fee offered.
As long as Arsenal don't beat us to the title or in a Cup I'm fine with it, may he blossom and they finish second.
As long as Arsenal don't beat us to the title or in a Cup I'm fine with it, may he blossom and they finish second.
It will be miserable when we need to dip in the transfer kitty for a player like him in less than two seasons from now. Very stupid transfer.
Imagine the scenes here if he helps Arsenal keep United out of the top four.
Needless to say, she can'ee take the strain, Cap'n!
So disappointed in van Gaal and the club.. This has just ruined an otherwise great transferwindow for me. F me...
Good luck to him. Really gutted about this but if he needs first team football, he needs to go somewhere and Arsenal seems a good fit for him.
Good luck Danny Welbeck. Hope you do well, just not against us.
Welbeck proved many times for us he's not a natural finisher. He had plenty of opportunities to show what he could do but missed too many good chances. 20 goals in 90 appearances shows that. When Giroud is fit again he'll be first choice striker and Welbeck will be shunted to the bench.
Sturridge showed nothing out of the ordinary at Chelsea or City, so they were right to move him on. The fact that he's now scoring goals with a different team doesn't mean he would have scored them with Chelsea or City. You often get that with players - they show nothing with one team then for no particularly apparent reason blossom when they go elsewhere. Conversely though, they can just disappear into obscurity.
If Welbeck scores lots of goals for Arsenal - which I seriously doubt - it doesn't automatically follow that he would have scored them for us.
This leaves a bitter taste to this summer, despite the evident strengthening of the squad. I loved Chicharito, and was sad to see him go, but Welbeck leaving feels a lot worse. I'm not local obviously, but still see the importance of the squad having a core consisting of local lads. I can certainly see us soon fielding a first XI without a single Englishmen, let alone a local lad.
They better take good care of our Danny!
Oh we will.
I think he will score 12-14 goals
Silly from club - we should have loaned him elsewhere
I'm not sure how long RVP has left but maybe this suggests Wilson is almost there
Good luck Danny
Silly from club - we should have loaned him elsewhere
I'm not sure how long RVP has left but maybe this suggests Wilson is almost there
Good luck Danny
Now that he moved to Arsenal, neither can I.
Seriously, I reckon he'll be a wonderful player for them if he gets a run of games up front.
Shaw, Jones, Smalling, Blackett, Wilson etc etc?
You've basically written him off already even for Arsenal. Well, guess you're happy he's gone. Its what it is.
Danny . My 2nd favourite player and now he's gone . I think he'll do really well for Arsenal. I hope he isn't the reason we miss out on top four or anything like that, but a part of me also wants him to dominate and show everyone at United how wrong they were.
. My 2nd favourite player and now he's gone . I think he'll do really well for Arsenal. I hope he isn't the reason we miss out on top four or anything like that, but a part of me also wants him to dominate and show everyone at United how wrong they were.That's just bizarre. They're our direct rivals for 4th and you'd enjoy him becoming the new Henry?
I don't think he will be a massive success there. I can see him scoring 10-12 goals a season with Arsenal but ultimately I think he isn't good enough to become one of the league's top scorers even if player on a regular basis with top players behind him.
He clearly wanted to leave and Arsenal were by a distance the best club after him so it was a no brainer. He will have a point to prove there.
He clearly wanted to leave and Arsenal were by a distance the best club after him so it was a no brainer. He will have a point to prove there.
if you watched his progress since he was 15 with the club, that is not bizzare at all.
i wish he goes on to become the player i hoped he would be for us.
I reckon he'll start well, there will be multiple meltdowns here and then he'll revert to his usual self when Giroud returns.
Even if you've watched him since he was 8, wanting him to become Henry-esque for a team that is the one we might actually battle with for a CL spot is bizarre in my eyes.
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