Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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Crackers said:
Nothin special today. Was average on the ball, didn't convert his chances and looked lost in a game Chelsea dominated.
He's a good striker, but Arsenal bought another Giroud level striker when they should have bought a top class one.
Same old Wenger.
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I don't think Arsenal had any chances at all, never mind Welbeck.

It was a game where Arsenal needed Welbeck or any other players to pull something special off. He didn't and neither did anyone else.

It was an average game for him but also an incredibly difficult one for his side.
 
Cassidy said:
Having lost their first UCL game the Gala game was also a big game for them.
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As big as a local derby? With Arsenals record in the CL games like that should be routine. Nobody would have been happy with anything but a win.

It's an important game but one the club would expect to win against an average side.
 
Isotope said:
What? He got one goal and one assist in 2 league games. Barely scratch a season. What would you say about Falcao then? he's having a complete failure of 'season' then.
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My point is Its far to early to say he's going to have a good season or not. He's done good and bad in the league games I've seen so far - pretty much as he did for United on a regular basis.

Falcao has done very little. But he's settling into a new country and coming back from catastrophic injury so I think it's fair to give him a chance. He's also in a fortunate position where given his injury the manager is likely to give him that chance. Wenger might not have that luxury.

Another big game came and went today. He had poor service but he also isn't the kind of player to produce a bit of magic.

The difference me between the top forwards and good forwards is summed up with Costa today. Did little in the game, got a sniff of a chance and you'd put your money on him scoring from it. I personally wouldn't do that with Danny Welbeck.
 
saivet said:
I don't think Arsenal had any chances at all, never mind Welbeck.

It was a game where Arsenal needed Welbeck or any other players to pull something special off. He didn't and neither did anyone else.

It was an average game for him but also an incredibly difficult one for his side.
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Zero shots on target for Arsenal as a whole.
 
Lukaku played against a much easier defense today and he was anonymous. Same for Balotelli and Hernandez in the champion league. Moreover countless other players in the same class that Welbeck is in. Some players perform well when the football gods are on their side and things are going for them. So basically, I do not understand the point of bringing up this thread unless his critics thinks he is world class and is suppose to singlehandly lead Arsenal to victory against a good Chelsea defense. Welbeck will have his moment, but that moment was not today.
 
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I thought given how shite Arsenal were he did well. Held the ball up well and use his pace quite effectively when he had the chance.
 
He is not the signing Arsenal needed to transform their side into a title challenging one. For their ''top four trophy'' purposes he will do and if he ever comes good, Giggs will just sign him back when he takes over from Van Gaal.
Today he was blameless though, Arsenal were totally shut out by that Chelsea defense.
 
Should have been sent off for his challenge. Quiet enough game. Difficult though. Once chelsea go ahead they are so fecking organised its hard to create anything. Most strikers in world football would have struggled in his role today
 
I love Danny and i was gutted that he went, but if anyone gave me a choice between Welbeck/ Falcao, i'd take take Falcao everyday of the week, i am sure Arsenal fans would jump on the chance to have Falcao instead of him. He will get goals against some poor sides and how can he not, he is playing for a top four side who creates plenty of chances, but he doesn't have the striker's instincts, we all saw Falcao today and in the last 3 matches, although he missed some chances, but the way he creates space for himself, only top strikers do that, Welbeck has never done that for me, he is a good player, who can hold the ball up and will be very successful with a top striker upfront, like in the start of 2011/2012 with Rooney on top he was brilliant for me, but against top 8 sides who will hardly give you much room to operate and you have to make space from your movement , and you will probably get a chance or two against them, he will not finish it.
 
I thought he struggled aerially today. Seemed to lose every challenge to Cahill.

Wasn't really making the sort of runs needed to invite crosses either. Arsenal could have done with Giroud instead of him today since it was against a deep-seated Chelsea team.
 
itso 7 said:
He is not the signing Arsenal needed to transform their side into a title challenging one. For their ''top four trophy'' purposes he will do and if he ever comes good, Giggs will just sign him back when he takes over from Van Gaal.
Today he was blameless though, Arsenal were totally shut out by that Chelsea defense.
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thought he was ok today. Less his problem than that Chelsea were all over Arsenal.

But I agree. If he does come good he will come back to us. He is completely United mad.
 
Rednotdead said:
Doesn't work that way. A player is judged on all performances, you can't pick and choose which games he's judged on.
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Welcome to the Caf. It was always like that on Welbeck's case. For example, you should ignore all games except when he scored goals in order to judge his ability as a finisher. Or ignore the entire 2012-2013 season except the two Madrid games (when you also have to ignore the chances he missed, one when the keeper was on the other side of the goal).
 
Revan said:
Welcome to the Caf. It was always like that on Welbeck's case. For example, you should ignore all games except when he scored goals in order to judge his ability as a finisher. Or ignore the entire 2012-2013 season except the two Madrid games (when you also have to ignore the chances he missed, one when the keeper was on the other side of the goal).
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According to the caf and his many supporters/detractors, Welbz has only two modes... Messi or Bebe.

It's the most schizophrenic thread on the Caf I think.
 
One thing he needs to do (and I'm not really sure he can do much about this to be honest) is become a bit harder to knock over.
He's not weak, but he's so light footed with the ball at his foot. One area where Giroud trumps him is that when he receives the ball, it sticks to him better.

With Welbeck - he controls it and just looks so flimsy and easy to knock over. Maybe it's the whole legs issue.
He's good at flicking it on with one touch, or turning and releasing quickly, but he needs to start making the ball stick. He's not yet a good focal point of an attack, mainly for that reason.
 
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
 
Essaux said:
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
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In fairness Rooney gets it worse if anything.
 
Essaux said:
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
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Arse fan I assume?
 
Essaux said:
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
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:lol:
 
Should have been given a red card yesterday for that tackle.

In fact Cahill, Chambers, Koscielny and Welbeck should all have been sent off in that game, which would have been fun. Schurrle could easily have gone too.
 
Only just saw that tackle GIF; should have been a red card IMO. Awful tackle.
 
Cesc is lucky he didn't get a serious injury. Stupid Welbeck. There was malice there. It's not like Cesc was gonna do damage from there was he? Scrap that, with his quality + Arsenal's defence he probably would have :lol:
 
Essaux said:
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
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Welbeck scores a hat trick against Galatasary and he's the next Henry, this thread goes mental, etc etc.

He has an ineffective game yesterday and posters are saying that you can't count these sort of games. So it's cherry picking galore in here.

There is no middle ground in this thread and I don't think there ever will be.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Welbeck scores a hat trick against Galatasary and he's the next Henry, this thread goes mental, etc etc.

He has an ineffective game yesterday and posters are saying that you can't count these sort of games. So it's cherry picking galore in here.

There is no middle ground in this thread and I don't think there ever will be.
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There is a middle ground in here.

That acknowledges his talent and hesitates to jumps to conclusions 6 games into Welbeck's career at Arsenal based on the latest results. But it's no point repeating that, so yes it's spastics galore in here.
 
adexkola said:
There is a middle ground in here.

That acknowledges his talent and hesitates to jumps to conclusions 6 games into Welbeck's career at Arsenal based on the latest results. But it's no point repeating that, so yes it's spastics galore in here.
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Well it's pretty evident that the middle ground in here is few and far between. Any logical / balanced posts, most likely get lost in the mass hysteria when he has a good or a bad game.

Yes, he's a promising player. But he has plenty of deficiencies to his game. We should all just see how he develops before any conclusions are drawn on him being the next Henry or a complete failure.
 
Essaux said:
Welbeck scores a hattrick against Galatasaray in the Champions League and it's shaken off as down to Galatasaray being a pub league team.

Welbeck doesn't score against Chelsea - arguably the strongest team in the Premier League. And then Welbeck is slagged off as being a terrible striker, shit buy, this that.

You lot are all ridiculous.
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Calling him the next Henry is just as ludicrous.
 
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