Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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Not while Mourinho's around with this squad he's building.

Mou's teams usually don't sustain at the top level for a long time. So, if this year Chelsea run away with the title, next year might be their last one.
 
nope. Their problems run deeper than just the personnel playing in those positions. Its a team defending problem that Wenger has proven incapable of fixing.

Do you think if they have players in the class of Campbell and Vieira, their defending wouldn't be improved?
 
I was never a fan of Welbeck but his performance in mid week was the best I have seen from him and maybe he just lacked confidence in not getting game time playing as a striker.

He does seem to get in good positions but he always bottled it at United wonder if he can keep his good for up for a run of games to prove the doubters wrong?
 
Depends on whether or not you're looking beyond the end of your nose. End of the season Falcao will be off to RM, Van Persie will be off to the glue factory and Rooney's attitude will be stinking the place out.

Daft post.
 
Mou's teams usually don't sustain at the top level for a long time. So, if this year Chelsea run away with the title, next year might be their last one.
Dont think so. Abramovich looks like he wants to keep Mourinho there long term and most of the current team is young. And they have a bunch of good players out on loan and on their youth teams.
 
Don't you think it's a bit early to call him inconsistent? The player I've seen so far has scored four in five games while still developing an understanding with his teammates. He's consistently worked hard and he never hides in a game. Couldn't do much more really. I agree with the rest of your post.

It's not early having watched him for years at United.

The Spurs game sums it up for me. Average game but had a great chance to level the game and fluffed his lines.

He scored a hat trick against a pretty average side in the CL. While he's always going to get goals the best forwards notch in the big games.

Hard work is admirable and fair play to him - you can't fault his attitude. That doesn't make you a great player.

At United he had issues over consistency and composure as a forward. One midweek hat trick in a CL romp doesn't mean he's suddenly resolved those issues.

I like the kid and to be fair he deserves to do well. But at a top side unless you keep scoring and come up with big goals its a matter of time before a club like Arsenal spend big on an established world class player and he's in the same position he was at United. He needs to do it regularly and when it matters before you can say he's a top 4 striker.

He might well do that and fair play if so. Id be the first to admit I was wrong.
 
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It's not early having watched him for years at United.

The Spurs game sums it up for me. Average game but had a great chance to level the game and fluffed his lines.

He scored a hat trick against a pretty average side in the CL. While he's always going to get goals the best forwards notch in the big games.

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I like the kid and to be fair he deserves to do well. But at a top side unless you keep scoring and come up with big goals its a matter of time before a club like Arsenal spend big on an established world class player and he's in the same position he was at United. He needs to do it regularly and when it matters before you can say he's a top 4 striker.

He might well do that and fair play if so. Id be the first to admit I was wrong.

Arsenal hasn't had any big games so far. Unless you think against Spurs is a big game. Didn't Suarez fail to score any against top 4 last season? Don't you think he still had a great season?
 
Arsenal hasn't had any big games so far. Unless you think against Spurs is a big game. Didn't Suarez fail to score any against top 4 last season? Don't you think he still had a great season?
Man City at home? Everton away? (which Welbeck wasn't a part of, but still). It's not like we've had an easy start to the league.
 
Arsenal hasn't had any big games so far. Unless you think against Spurs is a big game. Didn't Suarez fail to score any against top 4 last season? Don't you think he still had a great season?

Think he only got 1 goal against the top 6.
 
Mou's teams usually don't sustain at the top level for a long time. So, if this year Chelsea run away with the title, next year might be their last one.

Inter's level wasn't sustainable, but I'd say that the fact they wouldn't/couldn't sustain it was almost by design.
Madrid was a nightmare job. Almost a lose-lose. And no forward planning possible.
Porto would have been successful however long he stayed.
Chelsea weren't run all that well back then. They were desperate for silverware, and just generally didn't operate that well. They're a much smarter club now.

This squad is shaping up to be his best ever (maybe slightly short of Madrid's squad under him - but these are all going to be players he's hand-picked.)

Chelsea of today is the best-run club he's worked for, and I think both he and Abramovich are in it for the long(er) run. The average age of his squad is also looking good.
 
Inter's level wasn't sustainable, but I'd say that the fact they wouldn't/couldn't sustain it was almost by design.
Madrid was a nightmare job. Almost a lose-lose. And no forward planning possible.
Porto would have been successful however long he stayed.
Chelsea weren't run all that well back then. They were desperate for silverware, and just generally didn't operate that well. They're a much smarter club now.

This squad is shaping up to be his best ever (maybe slightly short of Madrid's squad under him - but these are all going to be players he's hand-picked.)

Chelsea of today is the best-run club he's worked for, and I think both he and Abramovich are in it for the long(er) run. The average age of his squad is also looking good.

That depends on how well this Chelsea side can do in Europe, which seems like Abram's grail when deciding how long a manager can stay.
 
Think he only got 1 goal against the top 6.

Thanks. Didn't know it was that bad. Needless to say, Suarez still had a great season, without needing to score against 'big' teams.
 
Its too early to judge yet, but fair play to Welbeck, he is been doing well ever since his move to Arsenal. Let's not get bitter here.
 
Thanks. Didn't know it was that bad. Needless to say, Suarez still had a great season, without needing to score against 'big' teams.

Suarez, the flat track bully. :cool:

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If you call yourself a Welbeck fan, then you should be happy he left for Arsenal. No way in hell he will start ahead of Roo, Falcao and RVP.
 
Was sending Welbeck on loan and selling Hernandez ever a possibility? I think most of us would have preferred that.

We do lack some pace in our team with Mata, RvP, Falcao and even Rooney all being slower than Welbeck. Falcao is more clinical but I think Arsenal got the better deal. Only 16m for a young English striker. I know, I need to harden the feck up.

How you can say RVP, Falcao and Rooney are slow is beyond me. Granted Welbeck is fast but those three are not slow at all. Btw, what is the point in been fast and falling on his ass at the crucial moment?
 
How you can say RVP, Falcao and Rooney are slow is beyond me. Granted Welbeck is fast but those three are not slow at all. Btw, what is the point in been fast and falling on his ass at the crucial moment?
Genuine pace stretches teams

All 3 United players are not fast, they are average paced. United lack genuine pace options up top
 
Arsenal hasn't had any big games so far. Unless you think against Spurs is a big game. Didn't Suarez fail to score any against top 4 last season? Don't you think he still had a great season?

One nil down to Spurs in a local derby? That's a big game and the time to step up. Ask any Arsenal fan how big a game that is. Score there and the fans will love you.

A Hat trick in the CL is a big plus but it skews the stats. One league goal so far, not any better than Giroud offers. That's not a great season.

He needs to do a lot more than he's done so far because sooner or later when the pressure is on for results you'd expect Wenger may take the Ozil route and buy a big name player.
 
One nil down to Spurs in a local derby? That's a big game and the time to step up. Ask any Arsenal fan how big a game that is. Score there and the fans will love you.

A Hat trick in the CL is a big plus but it skews the stats. One league goal so far, not any better than Giroud offers. That's not a great season.

He needs to do a lot more than he's done so far because sooner or later when the pressure is on for results you'd expect Wenger may take the Ozil route and buy a big name player.

Having lost their first UCL game the Gala game was also a big game for them.
 
Like I've said previously, lets not be bitter. The lad and rightly so wanted to start games, wasn't happy last year, we then go and buy Falcao. He's in a team thats made for him, and every game I've seen him play in for Arsenal, he looks like he's going to score. Our loss is their gain, as it it was the opposite way round, 2 seasons back when RVP came to us.

The key for me is RVP won us the title with his goals, and whether Danny's goals will do the same for them.
 
What are the odds for this place to meltdown once again if Welbeck scores today against Chelsea?

I'd put a cheeky bet.

Haha I hope he does (not to incite meltdown) but want him to do well, and Chelsea need to be taken down a peg or too to be honest
 
Its actually quite strange watching a video that was in a story about 'how Welbeck is better than Balotelli' on ESPN's website, that he's getting a reputation as a striker whose strength is getting in behind, with limited hold-up play.

For years at United his hold-up play was very good, but he was reluctant to make runs in behind- now because he's scored a few by running off defenders apparently he doesn't bring other people into play!
 
One nil down to Spurs in a local derby? That's a big game and the time to step up. Ask any Arsenal fan how big a game that is. Score there and the fans will love you.

A Hat trick in the CL is a big plus but it skews the stats. One league goal so far, not any better than Giroud offers. That's not a great season.

He needs to do a lot more than he's done so far because sooner or later when the pressure is on for results you'd expect Wenger may take the Ozil route and buy a big name player.

What? He got one goal and one assist in 2 league games. Barely scratch a season. What would you say about Falcao then? he's having a complete failure of 'season' then.
 
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