Great guy, united in his heart but he was never going to be a main choice striker for us, which is kind of where he wants to play. I'm not bothered about change anymore as people keep going on about. Football has changed and you either get on the train or stay on the station. The latter is fine if you are happy not to win or compete for anything. A lot of our players are just not up to competing at the highest level, for a business like United, which is is now, that is disastrous.
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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Gutted to see Danny go. Always put in a shift in a position he didn't favour, showed bags of pace and energy, lovely touches etc. I know he didn't bag tonnes of goals but he rarely played through the middle so it's unfair to judge him on that. Fair enough that he doesn't feature in LVG's plans, I suppose you have to trust the manager but I really like Welbeck to the point where I'm really underwhelmed at signing Falcao. Hope he does really well at Arsenal and I wouldn't even be annoyed if he scored a winner at OT after reading some of the sh*t other United fans have been posting on Twitter about him.
We had too many strikers. I believe he will succeed as a central striker and go on to have a good career with perhaps 150 goals and average about 13-15 goals per season.
As sad as this makes me, his and Chicharito's departure paves the way for Wilson in the first team.
And Wilson will get goals.
And Wilson will get goals.
Love him as a player but didn't like how he forced the move through. Best of luck to him.
On second thought, it could mean more playing time for Wilson who I think the more talented as striker.
I'm not one for predictions but I feel confident that Welbeck will score around 20 a season over the next 5 or so seasons, and will become widely acknowledged as England's best striker.
Bah @marjen!!
You've just said you hope he does well for Arsenal. In that scenario it will obviously reduce our chances of a top four finish. Winning titles is a different kettle of fish. For now, we'll be doing well to secure CL football next season. A decent debut season from Danny makes that less likely. I hope he's utterly incompetent in front of goal. Couldn't care less if this make me look like an eejit for spending so much time bigging him up on here.
More than likely, unfortunately.
Some ppl will still not give him any credit:
"What do you expect if you get service from the likes of Özil, Sanchez and Cazorla?"
"The system suits him, he wouldn't be a hit at any other club"
Anyway, our loss will be Arsenal's gain. Good luck to him and hope he now fulfils his potential.
If given a consistent run in the side up front it will be interesting to see if he can become a prolific striker or if he will always be a stiker who offers more to the team than he does to the goal tally.
I wonder where he stands in the pecking order right now if everybody is fit... First choice? If so, ahead of who? If not, how well would he have to do to displace somebody?
Giroud being the obvious man in question, i guess, but also Walcott and to a lesser extent Podolski and AOC.
Giroud being the obvious man in question, i guess, but also Walcott and to a lesser extent Podolski and AOC.
Very curious to see how he does, like many I've rated him for ages and wondered how he'd fare as the main man up front, now is the time for him to shine. Can't have been easy for him as he's a real Manchester lad, moving to Arsenal must have been a tough decision, but it's a good move for his career.
I'm torn, as I really, really appreciate Danny and everything he's done for us, but at the same time I know it's a key position for them and if he does shine, that might be to our expense. Bah, the board decided to sell him to a direct rival, I wish him all the best.
I'm torn, as I really, really appreciate Danny and everything he's done for us, but at the same time I know it's a key position for them and if he does shine, that might be to our expense. Bah, the board decided to sell him to a direct rival, I wish him all the best.
I accept your point but I think that our manager behaving like an arsehole and selecting dodgy formations and team selections will be a bigger factor in reducing our top four chances. This is in our own hands, and as ever I have confidence in the squad, and the reality is I just can't find it within me to want Welbeck to head down there and fail. Not feeling it.
Welbecks better then what they had but I'm not sure he'll ever be a top finisher. He'll get some nice goals, but I think he's weak 1 vs 1 and that is a shame. Wish him well (not too well mind you) ..
I am just as hurt as most of the people here at his departure, and i have read quite a few people are sad, just to brighten up the mood i really feel it was a choice between keeping Welbeck, which would have meant less game time for Adnan and Wilson. I for one believe Wilson and Adnan have higher ceiling, Adnan for me has a potential to be the best player in his position, while i haven't seen much of Wilson, i have heard he is very highly rated and he's a great finisher, which is how you judge a striker, Welbeck for all his great play never had that eye for goal, he was great technically, and he is amazing at linkup play, but strikers are judged on finishing chances and assisting which welbeck hasn't been able to do by now, Obviously given a choice i would have loved to keep him, but knowing we have two younger players with Higher ceiling and it would have most likely meant them leaving knowing the strike options we have it softens the blow for me.
It's not that I don't know we've done this before, the difference is no Fergie, who had a proven track record in promoting youth. The ethos feels different to me at the moment. Time will tell I suppose,
Welbeck was only a squad player here because we are loaded with top strikers. Oh and both Arsenal and Spurs were interested in him which is not bad for a squad player, eh? Last but not least, RM were not in for RvP, otherwise he would have probably gone there. Just us, City and Juventus. He was also 5 years older when we got him than Welbeck is now, so he is only going to improve from now on.
Would have been gutted if we didn't get a replacement in but our squad is stronger now and £16m isn't a bad fee. Good luck to Danny he will be a good signing for Arsenal.
You'd imagine he's the nominal man in the middle with Sanchez abd Walcott either side and Ōzil behind but I bet they'd all move around.
Or at least, that's what I'd do. Fluid, fast paced and doesn't heap pressure on Danny to score all the goals.
It sucks but that's football. For all we over-analyse it on here it's a very simple game. I don't find it difficult at all to not want an Arsenal striker to score goals.
No offence, but do you really think top 4 is good enough for United after spending 200m in 2 seasons (or is it more?). I think you guys are giving LvG a big pass if you think top 4 is good after spending so much. Anything less than PL win should be considered a failure IMO. You can't expect to spend 200m and fight for CL spot for a club of United's stature. If so many stars in one team doesn't win PL in a season when you have no CL headache, then I would say it's a big failure.
I'm gonna say this one last time, Welbeck was not cutting it for us in the last 2.5 years. Stop freaking out like children.
And you, give it time. Getting back in to the top four is priority after the hits our club has taken. Baby steps. Football is not a video game.
Danny needed to move on for the benefit of his career. He needs to play regularly as a striler to improve his composure in front of goal. He would never have got that opportunity here.
Bollocks. You can spend a fortune and bring in a host of world class players but it still takes time for a team to form and build an understanding. Did Chelsea or City win the league straight away after throwing money around? No. Ridiculous post.
Good post and I'll be using that rationale to console myself when Welbeck is banging in goals at his next club. Januzaj and Wilson do look to have more potential and will have more opportunities now he'a gone (although, obviously, the arrival of Falcao means they remain exactly where they were on the pecking order)
It's the whole Arsenal thing I'm really struggling with. Especially when he's such a good fit and plays on a position in which they desperately need strengthening.
The meltdown then was even worse since according to many Rossi was not even given a proper go.
Good luck to him, I never believed he would become a starter here but he was useful to have in the squad.
This is fvcking unnecessary.
Top 4 this season, build on what we have now and add 2-3 more world class players in the next couple of windows, and go all out for the league next year. We can't build a new title winning team overnight, not in a league as competitive as the Premier League is right now. Chelsea have completed their overhaul and look miles better than the rest ATMm but let's wait and see.
They could have at least thrown in Cleverley to sweeten the deal.
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How is that even different from what I said?
People have every right to be upset with this move. Welbeck was popular, talented, a United fan through and through, a youth product, and has just been sold to our direct rivals for a sum most people consider massively under-valuing him.
But please, continue to act like a knobend and talk down to people as if you speak from a position of authority, when in actuality no one knows who the hell you are
It's highly entertaining; it's taking the sting off selling Welbeck somewhat.Sanogo is dogshit and Wenger doesn't seem to fancy Campbell. So, I'd say Welbeck has 3 months to cement himself as the first choice striker.
I got to give it to Louis van Gaal. The bloke does have balls. I think only he and Mourinho would have made the decision to get shot of Welbeck.
I wish Welbeck luck in some respects, but I hope this turns out to be a masterstroke.
I wish Welbeck luck in some respects, but I hope this turns out to be a masterstroke.
Welbeck in an arse shirt . It's just so wrong.
I agree. Hopefully the feeling will go away soon-ish.
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