I am not talking about those three, I am talking about Young and Valencia.
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I am not talking about those three, I am talking about Young and Valencia.
Young has come into acceptable form whilst Welbeck has been poor out wide anyway. Valencia does need to be dropped though, for anyone!
Two good games doesn't mean he should be regular starter, he was awfull before that, and he was poor today. But, forget young, he is twice the player Valencia is at the moment.
Valencia is averaging an assist every 4 games this season and is yet to score. I quipped in the match day thread that he was due a good cross today, it didn't happen though, he created 0 goalscoring opportunities
Think he should get a chance outside over Valencia for at least a game. He needs the game time and he's shown improved ability at carrying the ball, he might not be a crosser but he's got good movement and good ability that whilst not ideal it shouldn't be a problem.
Welbeck is wasted to an extent when you play him out wide. Unless you're trying to see out a game and want hard working players on, then I generally would avoid playing him out wide.
Playing him out of position is still better then not playing him at all, especially when dropping Valencia could do us more good then bad.
Its hard for him to get to much game time right now. Based on performances so far this season, he is behind all three strikers and Welbeck isn't overly suited to the wings. Saying that after the last game I can see him starting out wide in place of Valencia. Possibly going Young, RVP, Hernadez and Welbeck in the next game
Im glad we stopped playing him on the wing, even if Valencia has been poor lately. I would much rather Nani get some time on the wing than Welbeck. If Welbeck is to get game time we should not play the 4-4-2 we have stuck to for the last months, but some diamond-ish formation. That or he should come on late in the game as a sub. Today it was Hernandez who got that opportunity when Rooney went off. It might very well be Welbeck's turn next time.
21 games, 1 goal. If someone mentions playing on the wing, I'm bringing out the shotgun.
why? because it's true?
He had a few decent efforts saved today. You're far too obsessive, bumping a thread for that. Leave the lad alone.
He had a few decent efforts saved today. You're far too obsessive, bumping a thread for that. Leave the lad alone.
He needs to improve his finishing but today it was hardly his fault, he got very little opportunities. As long as he plays well and functions well as part of the attack and as a unit we're scoring it's not such a big deal if he himself isn't getting the goals. Today he led the line really well, worked hard, was neat on the ball, held it up etc and his movement and comfort across the front 4 allowed attacks to develop well.
That said he is rightly fourth in line as striker and more goals will help him claim a more regular spot but I don't see it as such a big issue atm considering he's still played well within the attack.
That said he is rightly fourth in line as striker and more goals will help him claim a more regular spot but I don't see it as such a big issue atm considering he's still played well within the attack.
It's games like this, Galatasaray & in the cup where he needs to prove he's a striker worthy of inclusion in the Premier League. I thought he was alright in general play today, but really doesn't create enough chances to even be considered for a starting striking spot.
That shot at the end was couldn't have gone more into the corner, it was a fantastic save from Foster.
I thought he was good today, shame he couldn't get a goal then he'd have had a really good strikers performance. I think he has a level to step up yet and we'll see it when he starts scoring, then the confidence will show us how silky and tricky his overall play can be combined with a decent presence and ability in holding the ball up.
He's just not very general. He's a good player but his understanding of a situation when in the final third has to improve. Hopefully comes with time.
We should probably send him on loan then
Well for his sake, it wouldn't do him any harm. We could do with him for rotation though.
When Welbeck is in a good scoring position, I have this certitude that he can't do it.
Grats on your tagline. Well earned.
He's got a good record for England this season when he played as a striker, so how is it irrelevant that he's played mostly on the wing this season for us and has hardly scored?
He's got a good record for England this season when he played as a striker, so how is it irrelevant that he's played mostly on the wing this season for us and has hardly scored?
I think he's playing pretty well. Holding the ball well enough and bringing people into play.
Christ...just seen that.
Confidence might be his main issue, but I also think he's dropping far too deep at times.
Why that's where he has been playing isn't it? You could count his games up front this season on one hand and have a finger or 2 to spare.
Think that he will lose his place starting up front for England soon. I would like to see a Rooney - Walcott experiment.
He's been playing there a lot, but not as often as some people would like to make out. Besides, he's tends to cut in, as opposed to winging it, so that shouldn't leave him short of a goal-scoring chances.
I think Andy Cole was bang on the money in pre-season when he said he needs to sort out his priorities, whether he wants to be a creative player (in which he's behind all 3 of our other strikers in terms of assists) or a finisher (which he is also behind all 3 in terms of goals)
Christ...just seen that.
told you this thread was going to get you one. Shame they didn't go with my idea
True, he is lacking confidence in his finishing for United. He's been out of form in front of goal for us since around this time last year- that is a long period to be out of form for us, but I think he'll pull through it and offers enough to the team to justify getting games.
He is excellent defensively, and at United we play to win not to get the strikers on the scoresheet. He drops deep to help us win the midfield battle. Today he really helped us turn the tide by offering a little more physicality and pace in midfield after Lukaku came on and was ragdolling people.
Yep. I never get an adrenalin rush when Welbeck is bearing down on goal.
I know he won't score.
He has been there almost every match he has played, think he was even there in the league cup matches. Would like to see him scoring more but it is difficult to judge a striker if he is only playing up front once a month if he is lucky, does ok when starting there for England still think he is a very promising player.
I'm not a Balotelli-fanboy. I just believe he has more potential than Welbeck. Hardly shocking, most neutrals would agree. I'd much rather Danny for rotation purposes though.
You didn't say he has more potential at all, you said he was a vastly superior player and anybody preferring Welbeck must be deluded.
Find me that quote. I will happily eat my words if I said that last bit.
His all-round play today was better than any of our strikers have been recently, just never found himself in goal scoring positions.
Van Persie has been better in general play. Thing is, for those who say all this about his general play. He still needs to provide more assists. For all of you who said "Hernandez isn't a very good footballer", he still has more assists than Danny this season.
Welbeck was always going to be the one that suffered the most by signing RVP
I'm not getting into another argument with you, you proved comprehensively last time that you can barely even read.
Yeah. It's called an opinion. It's what forums are built on. Again I'm waiting on that exact quote.
Nah, I'm not having anything to do with you. Welbeck just put in a top notch performance and was only denied a goal by a brilliant save, and your first instinct was to come on here and slag him off. You don't deserve to support this football club.
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